10 interesting free agents still out there

Kevin Allen of USA Today Sports writes … 10 interesting free agents still out there

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24 Responses to 10 interesting free agents still out there

  1. leafy says:

    I think the Leafs have a major deal cooking on the griddle.

  2. nordiques100 says:

    So Kane/Toews get 10.5 mil each. That has reset the bar for the big time players.

    I agree with what many people of late have been saying, time to pay these types of players the bigger money, and not the Bollands or Niskanen’s big dollars for what they bring in comparison.

    • Gambo says:

      Kessel at 8 looks pretty good now. Is there any difference between him an Kane? Kane might be slightly better offensively, but the difference isn’t $2,500,000

      • lafleur10 says:

        there is a big difference kane is a better player than kessel a stanley cup champion, a a guy you can build a team around,kessel you can’t kane isn’t one dimensional either kessel is….

        • TmLeafan says:

          I see them as essentially the same player with Kane having better hands Kessel a better shot.
          Saw it at the Olympics Kessel was relied upon just as much as Kane and won best forward.

          Kessel is a point per game player in the playoffs in his career would be interested to see what he could do alongside Toews, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook.

          • lafleur10 says:

            kessel didn’t deliver when the game is on theline he choked in game 7 against the bruins,and he choked in the playoffs they arent the same player kane is the better player , a better all around player and he’s a more complete player than kessel ,kessel is one dimensional
            he’s also a guy you can build around ,kessel you can’t and he’s won 2 cups and i believe a conn smyhte winner….

        • leafs_wallace93 says:

          Kane isn’t better than Kessel, Kessel has a better north south game. I love the hate Kessel gets when he has essentially the same game as Duchene, speed, playmaking and sick release. Duchene gets the edge for having a better defensive game and for playing a tougher position.

          Kane? Perfect complimentary superstar but trade Kane for Kessel straight up, the Leafs lose an entire dimension to their top line.

          Kane is like Giroux, pretty pretty dangles.

          • Contract aside, I think every GM in the league makes that trade. I think Kane can be pretty lazy, but his talent alone is greater than Kessel. I am curious to see is Kane’s play goes downhill now that his contract extension is done.

          • lafleur10 says:

            keseel is in kane s league kane is the better player has better career numbers 2 cups a lethal shot isn’t one dimensional like kesselkane is a better north south guy as his highlite reel goals indicate…it’s laughable you compare him to duchene though because i think kessel is a better player than duchene…the blackhawks wouldn’t trade kane straight up for kessel because with kessel they know they’dbe getting a guy who is one dimensional and not as good!kessel is in giroux league giroux is a better player no question about it!

            • blaze says:

              What are you going on about lafluer. Relax Kane has scored some seriously clutch goals in the playoffs so he has that over a guy who never had the chance.

              But to say Kessel is one dimensional and Kane isn’t is absurd. What ‘dimension’ does Kane have that Kessel doesn’t?

              Kessel is one of the top 5 snipers in the league. However look at his last three seasons (one pro-rated) he averages 45 assists a year. That puts him in the top 15 playmakers.

              Kane actually registers less hits a year than Kessel does, somehow.

              So unless Kane is a defensive stalwart, and I’m pretty sure there’s a Selke winner somewheres on that team, there isn’t a substantial difference in their games.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Thought they wanted 12 each so it is a deal. No sure why anyone is surprised salaries are rising and even reading people comparing this against Crosby’s 8.7? People ignore context, if Sid signed a new deal today it would be 11-12 AAS

      Phaneuf and Kessel signing early in this post CBA landscape, as expected it looks like their contracts should be fair value long term.

  3. Gambo says:


    The draft combine results. William Nylander had the best Wingate Test’s for both peak power output(watts/kg) and average peak power(watts/kg).

    His score of 17.5(watts/kg) for the peak power output is insane.. it’s the record by quite a bit since they started doing that test, or keeping track of the results.

    I have a good feeling about this guy.

    • TmLeafan says:

      Ya and he was near the top in all the agility tests too. Seen a few clips of him at rookie camp he looks like the real deal. So fast and unreal hands.

      He is not as small as some people were making him out to be either. He will fill out and maybe even get taller. This is a really exciting pick, pumped to see what he can do for the Marlies as an 18 year old.

      Interesting that the Leafs seem to be making an effort at drafting good athletes lately. Here is Morgan Rielly 60 inch vertical last summer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1JX0UH-X00

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Wanted Ritchie but becoming increasingly impressed with Nylander, the kid has some swagger too, love to see that in someone coming to Toronto. Really hoping Kadri can have a breakout season and potential compliment Nylander.

      Who knows, if we fail into another top ten draft pick next season would be willing to trade Kessel engage a true rebuild. Would be a welcome culture change.

  4. leafy says:

    I wanna see more deals this summer. Frattin, Robidas, and Palak is not enough. I want something huge.

  5. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Looking at next years draft there is a ton of big centers in first two rounds. Would love to see the Leafs pick up a couple seconds for Reimer and Franson. Even try to pry another 1st round pick or two at the deadline.


    Adding a couple great C prospects in addition to Nylander and Gauthier could finally solve the 1C void and then some.

  6. nordiques100 says:

    Well from what Shanahan said, there are jobs up for grabs for the kids.

    i am guessing one spot is a spot on the wing on the 2nd or 3rd line. It all depends on where they want to line up Clarkson and Komarov.

    There is a host of competitors: Ashton, Frattin, Santorelli, Leivo will be vying for that spot.

    The 3rd line centre role is a battle between Kontiola and Holland but Kontiola I bet has the inside track.

    At least another spot will be open on the 4th line. Much will depend on how they want to structure the 4th line.

    For example, they could go with a kid line should they put Santorelli among the top 9. That would leave say a trio of Holland, Ashton and Frattin to play 10 minutes a game. They’d certainly be more skilled than your normal 4th lines around the league. That is my preference really.

    However, players like Orr, McLaren, Bodie, Broll could definitely find themselves as regulars there again.

    Much is dependent on the players, the kids specifically. If they make the choices hard, the jobs could be theirs. But Carlyle is a huge obstacle. No matter what, he seemed to turn to the veterans without giving the younger players much of a chance unless he absolutely had to (i.e on defence where it sucked so he had to play Reilly a ton)

    I’m not too interested in a slow moving plodding 4th line again that can’t do much and pretty much will be useless should the Leafs be trailing. With 18 back to back games, having 3 players dress who’d probably not play more than 10 minutes combined is a waste. A typical waste we’ve seen under Carlyle.

    I am sure that is one of the changes Shanahan is expecting from the coaching staff. I realize, there is that mystique of having a tough team, but the team needs to grow a set and be team tough. If it means just Clarkson being the main tough guy, so be it.

    scoring, not being worn out, depth, skill wins games. Not having the most fights in the league.

  7. LN91 says:

    I’ve been hearing amazing things about Nylander so far at the prospect camp…Even the other rookies are in awe of him.

    It was the right draft pick, it’s either he is a complete bust or a star of the game. Toronto did not need any other safe picks.

    Also, our best scout is probably Bergmann from Sweden anways…Have you seen the work this guy has done with late-round picks over the last few years?

  8. toronto77 says:

    Here is a thought I had!

    I feel that Clarkson with his contract should be on the 2nd line, you do not want to be paying a player that kind of money and term if he is in your bottom 6! So if Clarkson starts off to have another bad season should the leafs trade him? When teams try to get rid of crappy contracts they have to throw in a really good player. That is how we got Gardiner from Anaheim. The Ducks said “ok you can take Gardiner but you have to take the under performing Lupul and his contract”. So if the leafs want to get rid of Clarkson and his contract then maybe we can throw in one of Percy, Finn or Granberg. It will suck to get rid of one of those d-men but at least we can move on from Clarkson’s contract and put that money to more good use.

    Do you think Nylander could make the team? and if he does could he be consistent? We can argue till the cow’s come home over who is better, Kane or Kessel? but the only thing that matters is that they are both great players and have stepped into the NHL immediately after being drafted and never had a sophomore regression season or any regression what so ever. Say what you want about Kessel, but he has been a consistent 30 goal scorer since being drafted. There are other players who have had regression after stepping into the NHL after having an amazing rookie season like Skinner. So if Nylander has his rookie season this year what path will he take? the Kessel/Kane path? or Skinner path? Tough to tell. An even bigger positive would be if Nylander not right off the bat but maybe halfway through the season Nylander becomes the no.1 or 2 C. I think people list Nylander as a forward that can play wing or centre if so then we should push him hard to play C! Maybe he will make Kadri expendable and trade him in a package to bring in a no.1 Dman.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      All Clarkson costs us is caproom? How trade an asset like Gardiner just to free up some space when you have no one of impact to fill that cap room?

      Hope that Clarkson has a bounce back year and creates some value either to the Leafs or on the trade market.

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