3 Trade Options…Make Your Pick Bob!

Well, there are three possible scenarios that have been laid out for the habs. Of course some minor players in the deals might switch, but the key players remain the same.

1) The basic trade is with San Jose that I’m sure many of you have heard about. The possible variations are:

a) Ryder, Halak, Dandenault, 2nd round pick ———> Marleau, 3rd round pick
b) Plekanec, Ryder, Halak, Dandenault, 3rd round pick ———> Marleau, Bernier, 2nd round pick
c) Higgins, Halak ———> Marleau
d) Plekanec, Halak, Dandenault, Locke, 2nd round pick ——–> Marleau, Bernier
The reasons for this are quite simply, that after the departure of Toskala, the Sharks need a capable back-up in case Nabokov goes down during the season (Halak). They obviously need some good value in return for Marleau whether that be Higgins, Ryder, or Plekanec is up to Bob. And Dandenault is just a throw-in. We drop some salary, they get a veteran 6/7 D-man. The problem is of course that Marleau is unrestricted next year. The ideal situation would be if Bob could arrange a contract extension before the trade, or if San Jose threw in some conditional draft picks or prospects in case Marleau packs his bags.
2) The second trade possibility is with the Kings. There aren’t any variations just the basic trade of:
Ryder ——> Cammalleri
There aren’t really that many reasons for this, other than that Montreal would be a good place for Cammalleri to continue his development and the Kings could use Ryder’s consistent goal scoring to make a push for the playoffs.
3) Now the third trade possibility is an interesting one. It is with the Stars. I have also heard rumors of a sequence of trade for Montreal that would look something like 1d and then the following:
Ryder ———> Boucher
The reasons for this are that we really don’t need Ryder anymore, especially if we have Marleau. He may be a consistent 30-goal scorer, and he may show up when it counts, but he can’t skate and he can’t pass. Ryder would be great on a line with Ryder and Ryder. He’s a one-man show. Dallas could use a nice goal-scorer like him to go with Nagy and may be willing to trade one of their more expensive D-men. This would also help fill Souray’s void on the PP.
In an ideal world, Bob would complete trade #1d and then trade #3. Because quite honestly, we need wingers more than we need centres. We have to many quality centres, especially if we get Marleau. And on defense, Boucher would be possibly better than Souray.
It’s salary time!
Available cap room: 10.845M
With the departure of Plekanec (1.6M), Dandenault (1.725M), Halak (0.5M)
And the arrival of Marleau (4.167M) and Bernier (1.183M)
Left over cap room: 9.32M
With the arrival of Boucher (2.5M)
Left over cap room: 6.82M
With 6.82M we have enough money to resign Marleau to a 7M+ contract as well as have money left over to resign Streit, Koivu, and Kovalev in a couple of years if Bob sees fit.
Our lines would look something like this:
Higgins – Marleau – Kovalev
Latendresse – Koivu – Kostitsyn
Grabovski – Smolinski – Bernier
Begin – Lapierre – Kostopoulos
Markov – Boucher
Hamrlik – Komisarek
Streit – Bouillon/O’Byrne
Now that is what I call a balanced and scary team! But your opinion carries as much value with me. Please tell me what trades you would or wouldn’t do, include any new rumors you have heard, or include your ideal lines for the start of the season. Cheers!

64 Responses to 3 Trade Options…Make Your Pick Bob!

  1. ranger_fan says:

    Mr Reynolds has apparently changed his name to Turd Ferguson.  Good job Burt.

  2. rojoke says:

    He’s called for arbitraion twice, but on the flipside of that, no other team has been able to even send him an offer sheet, and as of this morning, he’s never gone to see the arbitrator?

    Sucks that it’s yet another one-year deal though. Unless Ryder kicks it up a few notches, I can see him ending the 07-08 season in a different uniform.

  3. TheHabsEnthousiast says:

    Your first trade is useless..
    First of all.. Marleau is UNRESTRICTED next year.. so if he ever wants to play for Montreal, He now knows the door is wide-open for him next summer.. ‘Cause if Bob offered that kind of money to Brière, he’ll be ready to offer it to Marleau too, with maybe more incentives…
    With that option, we lose one year in developing great youth and get Marleau for free next year..

    Option two : Marleau doesn’t want to play many years in Montreal and that said, he doesn’t sign an extension..becomes a one-year rental we paid with good young players.. and what if Pleakanec has better year than Marleau ?

    Your second also..
    Ryder is gonna be unrestricted next summer and his commitment to the team is such that he filed for arbitration and has had one-year deals the last three campaigns.. He would go for much cheaper, but we don’t want Bob to trade him for cheap since he has some assets (goal-scoring.).. But if LA is dealing Camalleri, I’m interested, he has grit and speed, and he can score too, I’d throw in comething like Perezoghin’s rights with Ryder and a forth rounder..

    And the third one….?
    well, we just seem to already have so many defenders.. we have 6 our regular spots in Markov, Komi, Hamrlik, Bouillon, Dandenault and Streit with Gorges, O’byrne and others to come,
    Also, it seems to me that Boucher would much more expensive than just Ryder..

    I’m surprised you didn’t place a trade request for Lecavalier to lower their salary-cap issues..
    Imagine..a 1-2 punch of Lecavalier and Marleau at the Bell Centre..(it’s a joke…)

  4. KingstoCup says:

    am i missing something here? why in the world would LA trade Cammaleri for Ryder? that makes no sense, Cammaleri is better than Ryder by a long shot. Ryder hasnt progressed at all, hes been decent since his first year but has shown no signs of reaching the next level. no thank you, keep your underachievers

  5. Zanctar says:

    First of all, San Jose wouldn't Trade Marleau for Kovy and Bouillon. Kovy is maybe a player with great talent but doesn't work 3 games out of 4 and for Bouillon, even if he works hard and hits too, I don't think San Jose would take him because of his height and his point stats. 

    Secondly, never trade Halak? We have Huet,Danis,Price(Who is going to be the next #1) and Lacasse. Halak is a good keeper I know, but we can trade him for a Center that  we need(Marleau). I say this because we have Huet for next year, and we can put Price for second goalie or Danis, who could do a good job. 

    Thirsdly, I would Trade Ryder even if he's the "Sniper" of the team. Even with his 30 goals, he has a differential of -25 or around that. we can have a good player that scores maybe a little bit less goals but who is goos in defense. 

    Finnaly, I have the same point of view for PLecky and Higgins, they are the futur of the team (especially higgins). For Locke, I don't know really, I don't know a lot about him and we didn't see him in the NHL.       

  6. Tush says:

    Can you tell me where you are getting all this info from. Anything worth writing about should be referenced. I just don't see any of those situations happening. Why would San Jose give up its 2nd best goal scorer and 2nd best point getter who is fairly defensively responsible at +9. As for Camerlli 16 of his 34 goals were on the PP, when compared to Ryder 17 of 30 goals on the PP. Ryder scores a bit more of his goals on the PP but Camerlli is close behind, but still Camerlli has a far better +5 plus/minus rating. So why would LA want to give up their best point getter and 2nd best goal scorer for a down-grade in Ryder? I just don't see why these other teams would go for any of these trades. And am wondering where you are hearing this info from?

  7. MR40 says:

    It's a conditional 1st rounder dumb ass. They only get it if Marleau walks next summer.

  8. MR40 says:




    Hold on, i'm gonna try to calm down.


    Wow. YOU CALLED HIS TRADE'S BAD? Hell, i'm a canucks fan, and I think thats ridiculous.

    You've been speculating that trade for almost half of a year now. It's not going to happen.

  9. mtl_prince says:

    your cap numbers seem way off. after signing ryder, montreal sits around 45mill. thats 5 mill till the limit, right?

  10. nordiques100 says:

    1a) ryder is good for 30 goals. thats it. he brings little else to the table. halak is a good goalie prospect but the sharks have two guys who are on par with halak in thomas griess and dmitri patzold. they really dont need another goalie prospect. and dandenault is a jack of all trades player who can play forward and defence but is a master of none. he's a depth guy….being paid almost 2 million. all these table scraps for the sharks captain, a top centre who at age 27 is just entering his prime and for the last few years has gotten better each season.

    1b) its the same as above but they throw in plekanec for bernier. plekanec is a solid player who on a good team will be an excellent number 3 centre. but bernier has strong potential to be a 30-40 goal man. production from the two players is relatively the same. as for potential, bernier has a bigger upside.

    1c) finally here the habs give up something of value. it would actually be a very fair trade: higgins for marleau. i just dont see the habs giving up on someone who has so much upside, currently comes cheap, and is locked into staying a hab for a few more years yet. its these types of players teams need to keep in the cap era. home grown talent. marleau would be a great addition and its a fair deal, but they have koivu, they have smolinski, they have plekanec, they have lapierre. they can survive with the centres they have.

    1d) i cant even comment on this one because it is so bad. if you wanted to make this so lopsided why the hell even bother giving up plekanec. you mind as well offer perezhogin who will likely never play again in the NHL because everything else you have going to the sharks is a whole lot of nothing.

    2) i thought i read the worst when i read 1d) but this is comparable. cammellari is an offensive star in the making. he has the skills to go with heart….kind of like daniel briere. he is a guy who is going to put up points and more points. he brings plenty more to the table than ryder ever will.

    3) this actually is the only deal fantasized that made some sense. defence is the stars deepest position in the organization and while boucher's loss would be significnant, they need scoring in a big way. they still have zubov and norstrom plus the emerging trevor daley as a top 3. plus some good prospects on the way. boucher would give montreal an excellent top 4 which is their biggest need right now, another top 4 dman they dont really need another centre.

  11. ferron says:

        If any of you out there know anything about hockey and most importantly the HABs, you know that the only way Higgins is leaving MTL is in a BODY BAG. Higgins will be a superstar and our best player for years to comes. I would trade price before i trade Higgins and there's no way in hell that the Habs are stupid enough to lose guys like Higgins, Plek, Kostitsyn or Komisarek for a guy(Marleau) who's unproven and who becomes UFA next year!

  12. ferron says:

      Here a trade for U.

    to SJ= Kovalev, Danis, Dandenault, Begin and a 2nd rounder.
    to MTL=Marleau and Clowe

  13. ferron says:

      actually Montreal sits at around 43.850 000.

  14. wadeaminute says:

    I hate all of you people who make up deals that look like they are simply out of and NHL game. I am soooooo sure that the L.A Kings will trade away their star who is going to be a star there for a while, for a middle-aged 30 goal scorer who is slower than molasses on a hot summer day in Thailand. Come on people. Life is not a video game.

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