A good rangers team

Looking at the rangers right now it is obvious to say that they should be a good team. The problem is that they dont have enough team players. Ive come uup with a fairly good solution for the rangers which should work for now and for a long time down the road. Now the rangers team would look something like this:Barnaby-Lindros-Bure

Nedved-Messier-Kovalev

Lundmark-Holik-Carter

Petrovicky-Lyashenko(RIP)-McCarthy

leetch-poti

Kaspairaitis-de vries

malakhov-purinton

Dunham

Blackburn

TO make this team work for both the short and long term we would need to make it a younger harder working team.

I would say that we would move Messier to the 3rd but at the end of the season him and Kovalev seemed to click so i would recommend keepin them together, but instead of nedved on that line i would put lundmark. Jamie Lundmark is a young player with an amazing potential and can one day be the best man in the league. He can learn a lot from playing with these two.

Next I would like to see Anson Carter traded back to edmonton with maybe a draft pick and/or money for Mike York. With this we would put York on LW with Lindros and Bure. This should be one of the best if not the best line in the league. I know that lindros has not been producing like he should be, but i think if we give him the C then he will feel extra pressure on himself to do better and i believe he will be back to the old lindros that we all used to dread.

The Rangers i hear are supposed to sign Whitney so i would take him and put him on the third line for a year. Most important thing is to lower Holik’s pay so we can trade him for a high 1st Rd pick. And hvae a 3rd line of whitney, nedved, and barnaby.

The offense would now look something like this:

York-Lindros-Bure

Lundmark-Messier-Kovalev

Whitney-Nedved -Barnaby

Now i am not saying that this should all be done this offseason but maybe over 2 seasons.

I say that messier should play this season and the 7 more games that he needs to pass howe for mnost games played. Then he will retire in the beginning of the season. and we would move either york or lundmark to center and move whitney up to a better line. And we would be able to pick up any players we need to fill holes in free agency.

And when bure and lindros and dunham and leetch are done the team will be a litle like this….(these are not lines just the players they will still have as the base of the team. Dont forget that by this time York, Lundmark, Blackburn and Poti should be allstars in the league.

LW C RW

Whitney Lundmark Kovalev

York Nedved

G Blackburn

D

Poti

de Vries

Tiutin

Purinton

Pisa

Now who would wants this plus whoever else they can pick up in the future through picks or other ways. Not only will this be a long term solution for a good team but they can be a top contender for cup for about 10 years as long as they continue to draft skilled players and develop them well. This team would also be cheaper.

Who would not like this as a team? And its like im in a fantasy world. This is very possible to do. I think its reasonable, if you disagree let me know.


37 Responses to A good rangers team

  1. Gretzky92163 says:

    This is how it should look

    C-LW-RW

    Lindros-Whitney-Carter

    Nedved-Lundmark-Kovalev

    Holik-Arvedson-Garth Murray

    Lee Falardeau-LaCouture-McCarthy/Hugh Jessiman

    Leetch-DeVries

    Mironov-Malakhov

    Kasparaitis-Tjutin

    Dunham

    Markkanen

    It’s obvious that Nedved and Kovalev’s styles compliment each other. In Kovy’s career year, he played with Lang and Straka, who’s styles are very similar to Nedved’s. Kovalev put up the most points with Nedved, not Lindros, Holik, or Messier. Whitney is not a 3rd line guy. He could be Mike York’s replacement at a cheaper price. Holik should not leave this team, his new salary should be considerably lowered once the current contract ends. Lee Falardeau is like Holik but with hands and speed, and he’s going to be a good player. Jessiman could step in and do some 4th line work to develop if we don’t sign McCarthy. He’ll be another good player too. Garth Murray is another guy I’d like to see, he’s going to be a good checking player, and he would work well with Holik. Arvedson would also be a great signing and would be great on the PK and checking line even strength with Holik. It’s about time that Fedor Tjutin gets his chance to play. He should be apart of our defensive core one day, he’ll be a solid, tough, 2-way defenseman. Blackburn is going to be sent to the Wolfpack, believe it or not. But Markkanen is one of the league’s most underrated goalies, his numbers in Edmonton prove it. Blackburn will recieve the starting honors in about a year or 2, while Dunham should be dealt for talent and Markkanen should continue on his backup duties. You went about this all wrong.

  2. leafs2003champs says:

    messier as a 2nd line center ummmmmm NO try 3rd or 4th and he hasnt signed yet and roumors say he is going to the panthers or they have talked I would put holik as your 2nd line center and your 3rd line center is sadly no longer with us I hope he RIP

  3. nYrONLYcCASH says:

    WOW…..UR A REAL MORON ……U HAVE NO IDEA WAT UR DOIN BUDDY

  4. nYrONLYcCASH says:

    WAIT…….U WANT WHITNEY TO BE UR NUM 1 CENTER????? ……….. LUNDMARK TO BE UR NUM 2 CENTER???????? ……………. HOLIK TO PLAY THE WING??????? AND WAT R U DOIN WIT THAT 4TH LINE …… WITH THAT LINE UP , U WONT MAKE IT PAST 10 GAMES

  5. leafs2003champs says:

    who me??? or the writer of the article

  6. beefer says:

    Look closer. He listed the centers first.

  7. beefer says:

    NYRules….I hope you weren’t driving tonight. I’m pretty sure you are under the influence.

  8. leafs2003champs says:

    lol yes me to

  9. AdamBomb says:

    First Messier and Leetch are UFA’s who probably won’t resign, therefor you just lost 2 of your captains. Lindros is horrible, it’s funny but he plays better when he’s hurt. Dunham is not the goalie everyone thought he was. This team has no defense and the little offense it has can’t stay healthy. Make it 7 seasons straight out of the playoffs.

  10. MantaRay says:

    There are tons of moves this team has to make before it can be considered “good”.

    They should just ask Mess to retire, let Lundmark finally play a full season. The kid has potential and is just rotting without getting the playing time,

    Mess is just taking up space and is a waste as Captain. This is 2003, not 1994.

    Trading York for Carter is actually a great idea. Carter and Kovalev are not going to produce on the Rangers because they lack a first line center.

    Bure, I understand is NOT coming back. Call up one of the kids from Hartford or even Donato. Donato WAS the best Ranger on the ice the final two weeks of the season and brings heart, which the other 19 players seemed to lack.

    I know Sather loves Cujo, but Dunham deserves to play. But Sather is a moron…

    This might be rough but: just let Leetch go. He has been one of the worst defenders in the league for the past 7 years (or more).

    You can’t win with him.

    Put Devries with Poti, let Pisa get some playing time, he was impressive in his time up with the team.

    Sather has got to let the kids play and teach the country club what its like to play the game cause you love it, not because your making alot of money and don’t care.

    Finally, fire Sather hire a real GM and let Schoefeld coach the team. Many hate Schoney because he is too demanding of them, but that is what this lazy overrated team needs.

  11. Dynamo710 says:

    Donato signed a one year contract with Boston, so thats out of the question. Leetch one of the worst defenders in the league for the past 7 years!? Thats ridiculous. The team plays better with him in the lineup. You can win with him, he carried the team through the playoffs in 94 with 34 points, and hes a two-time norris trophy winner. Also Schoenfeld wouldnt coach the team he was offered the position after Trottier was fired but wouldnt take it.

  12. defenestrate says:

    There’s that oxymoron again……..

  13. B-man says:

    Messier as a 2nd line center and Holik as a third line center…. and trading Carter back to EDMONTON for York?? Carter is a better player than york and should have a good year this year. U sure u know what ur talking about????

  14. Tradedude says:

    Dude, whitney does NOT play center, neither does arvedsson. your first 3 lines, all ur LW play center. try gettin’ that straight next time.

  15. Tradedude says:

    Was this kid a passenger in the Girard accident? Something has went terribly wrong with this guy.

  16. DaMick says:

    Messier hasnt been a top 2 line center in 4 years…so thats ridculous putting him on a the second line.

    Bure? last time i saw he was going to become The Russian Minister of orthopedists….hes probably not going to play this year just because of his shot knees.

    So thats your Top Rw & Second line center ?

    Seems like you ARE living in a fantasy world.

    You gotta stay away from sather’s koolaid..

    Now you know why the rangers are at 25-1 to win it all…

    and those are actually generous odds…

    it should be 50 to 1.

    DaMick

  17. DaMick says:

    At least this is a bit more realistic …though Kovie should be on the first line.

    Though i disagree with dunham being dealt…getting CuJo would be a huge mistake.

    DaMick

  18. markjohnston says:

    um, dude, the oilers won’t take carter back.

    they dumped him for a reason, and not surprisingly, that reason was money.

    carter, while a great and very exciting player in edmonton, costs too much for the oilers.

    why would they take him back? especially after the rangers ink out a deal with him – which knowing the reangers will be for 45 million a year or something.

    that trade will never happen.

  19. GeniushockeyKID says:

    i guess none of you know that roman lyshenko died…

  20. GeniushockeyKID says:

    lol sorry i just realized i missed where he mentioned it.

  21. kozzy_ says:

    actually Whitney played center a lot last year

  22. amonte_33 says:

    The biggest problem with this team right now is that nobody knows for sure who the hell is coming back and who isn’t. Will Messier retire? There’s been a lot of speculation, but nothing’s official – and that’s a problem. Is Bure coming back or not? Will Leetch resign? It’s hard to build a team when you don’t know which pieces you’re still missing.

    In my opinion, the Rangers have dug themselves a deep hole over the past four or five years. They’re traded away young talent for aging stars, only to see their prospects go on to be solid players with other teams. I get the feeling that Rangers’ management believes that fans would rather watch formerly great players lose then a bunch of young kids lose, and that’s a load of crap. I’m a Ranger’s fan and if this team has to suffer through some (more) lean years to get their young talent playing well, I’m all for it…

    …but the powers that be in the Garden won’t let that happen, because to them, the names on the back of blue jerseys are the most important thing – that’s why the Ranger’s went after Eric Lindros when a perfectly healthy Michael Peca was available…

  23. Habfan1234 says:

    According to Spector’s Hockey Ales Pisa is set to become a free agent due to the fact that the Rangers did not make a proper qualifying offer to him.

    “Larry Brooks reports the NY Rangers could lose defenceman Ales Pisa, whom they acquired from Edmonton as part of the Anson Carter trade, to free agency. According to Brooks, Pisa ” is a Group II free agent after having been qualified at $550,000, a qualifier of $727,502 was required because of his age in order for the Rangers to have the right of first refusal on an offer sheet.” That means the Rangers could lose him for nothing to either another NHL or European team.”

    I think this time Larry Brooks is believeable in his assesment of a hockey situation.

    Excerpt from http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/default.html

  24. Rico71 says:

    He carried the team waaaay back in 94′.

    He’s not able to carry this team. He’s injured often and not getting any younger.

    Let’s face it, the 2 norris trophies he won were for the points he posted, not because he was any good defensively.

    Look at Coffey…the man managed to win the damn Norris…and he was not considered a defensive D-man.

    Same thing with Leetch. Great offense, weak defense.

  25. NHLman says:

    Alright you got some good ideas, but on the whole I don’t think it’s a good evaluation.

    Lets start off with Messier- if they resign him it better be for peanuts, otherwise DO NOT SIGN HIM!

    He is simply not the man that scores 60 or 50 or 40 or 30 or even 25 goals anymore. Furthermore, he has definitely lost most of his intensity. He’s only good for leadership.

    I say just offer him a 1 year- $1.5 million contract and it’s that much just to be respectful

    THIS OFFSEASON THE RANGERS NOW SAVE ABOUT $2 Mill FOR NEXT YEAR (if he agrees to it)

    Next, it seems Mike Richter’s days are numbered- he is most likely going to retire

    RICHTER’S $6 Mill + THE $2 Mill= $8 mill available

    Now Bure, this situation is much like Toronto’s with Svhela. However, I think Bure is going to at least try 1 more season, you have to remember he is still pretty young.

    The Leetch scenario- You have to believe he’s going to be resigned, of course not at $9 mill a year like his last contract. I think he’s going to end up signing a 2 year $13.6 million deal with a 1 year option (where his yearly salary would remain the same). This would amount to $6.8 mill a year. He’s definitely not getting that much from anyone else. This contract would save the rangers about $3 mill a year.

    THE PREVIOULY STATED $3 Mill + $8 Mill= $11 Mill per year free to spend

    That deals with all resignings and retirements. Next, salary arbitrations.

    Poti will probably receive another million dollars per year

    Carter wil probably receive another million dollars per year as well.

    $11 Mill- $2 Mill= $9 Mill

    alright now the UFA’s- $9 Mill free= RANGERS SHOPPING SPREE

    Ray Whitney last salary $2.6 mill per year

    sign him for $3.6 per year

    contract= 4 years $14.4 mill

    $9 Mill- $3.6 Mill= $5.4 Mill

    Slava Kozlov last salary $2.35 mill per year

    sign him for $3.4 mill per year

    conract= 5 years $17 mill

    $5.4 Mill- $3.4= $2 Mill

    Magnus Arvedson last salary $1.65 mill per year

    sign him for $2 mill per year plus $1 mill in incentives

    conract= 3 years $6 mill (if meets all incentives every year would be $9 mill) also 2 year option at $3 mill per year

    $2 Mill- $2 Mill= $0.00

    This is what could possibly happen this offseason and it is extremely reasonable (at least I think)

    And if they were willing to spend more money they could sign defensemen Dmitry Yushkevich or Ken Klee, but I’ll continue assuming they won’t

    Lines-

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov-Lindros-Carter

    Arvedson-Holik-Bure

    Barnaby-Messier-Lundmark

    defense

    Leetch de Vries

    Poti Malahkov

    Kasparitis Mironov

    Goalies

    Dunham

    Marrkanen

    Blackburn

    Now this team is extremely solid and it is a cup contender.

    In 2- 3 years, once Bure, Lindros, Dunham, Leetch, and Messier have retired or are gone (as you were pointing out):

    still have

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov- _____ -Carter

    _____ -Holik-Arvedson

    Barnaby- _____-Lundmark

    defense

    _____ de Vries

    Poti ____

    Kasparitis _____

    Goalies

    Blackburn

    then if you add in all the draft picks and what not you come out like this:

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov-Lundmark-Carter

    Jessiman-Holik-Arvedson

    La Couture-Murray-Petrovicky

    defense

    de Vries Poti

    Tiutin Pisa

    Purinton Lefevbre

    Goalie

    Blackburn

    pretty damn good team this year and the next several years.

  26. NHLman says:

    Alright you got some good ideas, but on the whole I don’t think it’s a good evaluation.

    Lets start off with Messier- if they resign him it better be for peanuts, otherwise DO NOT SIGN HIM!

    He is simply not the man that scores 60 or 50 or 40 or 30 or even 25 goals anymore. Furthermore, he has definitely lost most of his intensity. He’s only good for leadership.

    I say just offer him a 1 year- $1.5 million contract and it’s that much just to be respectful

    THIS OFFSEASON THE RANGERS NOW SAVE ABOUT $2 Mill FOR NEXT YEAR (if he agrees to it)

    Next, it seems Mike Richter’s days are numbered- he is most likely going to retire

    RICHTER’S $6 Mill + THE $2 Mill= $8 mill available

    Now Bure, this situation is much like Toronto’s with Svhela. However, I think Bure is going to at least try 1 more season, you have to remember he is still pretty young.

    The Leetch scenario- You have to believe he’s going to be resigned, of course not at $9 mill a year like his last contract. I think he’s going to end up signing a 2 year $13.6 million deal with a 1 year option (where his yearly salary would remain the same). This would amount to $6.8 mill a year. He’s definitely not getting that much from anyone else. This contract would save the rangers about $3 mill a year.

    THE PREVIOULY STATED $3 Mill + $8 Mill= $11 Mill per year free to spend

    That deals with all resignings and retirements. Next, salary arbitrations.

    Poti will probably receive another million dollars per year

    Carter wil probably receive another million dollars per year as well.

    $11 Mill- $2 Mill= $9 Mill

    alright now the UFA’s- $9 Mill free= RANGERS SHOPPING SPREE

    Ray Whitney last salary $2.6 mill per year

    sign him for $3.6 per year

    contract= 4 years $14.4 mill

    $9 Mill- $3.6 Mill= $5.4 Mill

    Slava Kozlov last salary $2.35 mill per year

    sign him for $3.4 mill per year

    conract= 5 years $17 mill

    $5.4 Mill- $3.4= $2 Mill

    Magnus Arvedson last salary $1.65 mill per year

    sign him for $2 mill per year plus $1 mill in incentives

    conract= 3 years $6 mill (if meets all incentives every year would be $9 mill) also 2 year option at $3 mill per year

    $2 Mill- $2 Mill= $0.00

    This is what could possibly happen this offseason and it is extremely reasonable (at least I think)

    And if they were willing to spend more money they could sign defensemen Dmitry Yushkevich or Ken Klee, but I’ll continue assuming they won’t

    Lines-

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov-Lindros-Carter

    Arvedson-Holik-Bure

    Barnaby-Messier-Lundmark

    defense

    Leetch de Vries

    Poti Malahkov

    Kasparitis Mironov

    Goalies

    Dunham

    Marrkanen

    Blackburn

    Now this team is extremely solid and it is a cup contender.

    In 2- 3 years, once Bure, Lindros, Dunham, Leetch, and Messier have retired or are gone (as you were pointing out):

    still have

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov- _____ -Carter

    _____ -Holik-Arvedson

    Barnaby- _____-Lundmark

    defense

    _____ de Vries

    Poti ____

    Kasparitis _____

    Goalies

    Blackburn

    then if you add in all the draft picks and what not you come out like this:

    forwards

    Whitney-Nedved-Kovalev

    Kozlov-Lundmark-Carter

    Jessiman-Holik-Arvedson

    La Couture-Murray-Petrovicky

    defense

    de Vries Poti

    Tiutin Pisa

    Purinton Lefevbre

    Goalie

    Blackburn

    pretty damn good team this year and the next several years.

  27. JohnFlan22 says:

    Wow. messier as your number 2 would be dumb, even as your number 3 center. He is fourth when looked at by any rational person, it’s just the rangers LW depth has got to be worst in the NHL. I say don’t offer him a contract at all and let him got to florida so he can have gay sex with Kennan again. At this point Messier is a distraction on the team. They never should have gotten him back once he left the first time. It’s like the stupid shit the isles always do trying to reattach to past glory only for it to backfire at the expense of the team. cut ties, move on. Try to get an identity. This team is so sad. Sather sucks. they need young new blood both on and off the ice. Trading Mike York was the worst move ever but I’m pretty sure Edmonton is more then happy to have him. I am one of the few here who thinks you should keep Leetch though, he is the soul of the line-up if you can say that any soul exists on this team. The rangers are just a shittier version of the Leafs. Again, get a soul, get a system to play. let Lundmark play, grow your own talent. There’s no more Amontes and Doug Weights to trade in the system anymore to buy a cup so stop trying and start over. The only thing i find amazing about this team is that any shit they grab off other teams on the waiver wire will fetch them the Kovalevs of the world as long as they send $5mill with them.

  28. NHLman says:

    gay sex with Kennan, lol.

    That’s a good touch.

  29. Freeze says:

    Too many Ranger morons and not enough oxygen…

  30. defenestrate says:

    Well done, sir – a tip ‘o the cap to you.

  31. defenestrate says:

    Where’s Mikster when you need him? We should keep this post up until he gets back….

  32. NYRules says:

    I guess no one in heree watched any ranger games at the end of the season. But for those of u that didnt, i know that messier now sucks but that line that i have…. Nedved messier kovalev, was the rangers best linhe for the last month. You have to put lines and keep lines together that play good. This is one thing that the rangerse rarely do. They just slap guys together. Although like amny of u said i agree that messier should retire. If he were to retire i wouldnt mind seein him behind the rangers bench as an assistant coach. We would sill get the one thing that he can give us, leadership.

  33. NYRules says:

    yea i actually like how ur lines look better, but where is poti?

  34. NYRules says:

    they already made it clear that leetch is resigning… both ather and leetch said it so i dont know what ur talkin bout

  35. NYRules says:

    r u a crackhead? lundmark on the 4th line? how will he develop into a superstar on the 4th line? other than that i like it

  36. B-man says:

    U idiot. It goes from C-Lw-Rw, Lindros would be the number 1 center not whitney. Its called READING.

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