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 reinjosh writes "As the dust begins to settle two days after July 1st, we can already begin to see winners and loser on the day so many teams look to, to become a playoff team next season.
Winners
Tampa Bay Lightning
After so long being the but of the league and having a terrible management team, they finally did something right. By signing Matthias Ohlund to mentor and guide Victor Hedman, the Lightning took a huge step into becoming a team on the rise. This will help to give a defence ,that at many times last year looked very lost, a solid veteran presence and take it from being a weak and young defence to a stronger and more solid defence (never to mistaken for a top defence yet though). Great move.
Vancouver Canucks
By resigning the Sedins to a fairly resonable length and number deal (6.1 million over 5 years each), and signing Mikael Samuelsson, the Canucks were winners. They were able to preserve their top line (and 180 points a season) for a reasonable rate and at a length that wont hurt them in the future. Samuelsson adds a valuable cup experienced veteran presence that can play third line duties and add secondary scoring the team desperately needs. He will fit nicely with Kesler and help to make a good energy line if Burrows plays with them.
Minnesota Wild
Signing Havlat at 2.5 million dollars less than Gaborik would have cost was a great move as they effectively traded the same amount of offence for a cheaper cost. Havlat actually looked great last season and looked like he was commited to staying healthy unlike Gaborik. This a great move for the Wild and they still have almost 7 million to spend on another scoring forward like Tanguay (should be looking at 4 million at most). Signing Zanon helped to solidify an already solid defence.
Going Sideways/Potential Winners
Toronto Maple Leafs
While many fans seemed to like the Komisarek signing, the Orr signing and the Exelby and Stuart for Kubina trade (with some mixed feelings for the latter), the Leafs did little to improve the team skill wise. It seems they will be content to have another losing season (not really a problem for me, i welcome it) but will be much tougher to play and a very rough team. The signing with the most potential is the Komisarek signing, which could allow the leafs to use him to mentor Schenn and create a very good shutdown line for a very long time.
Montreal Canadiens
Adding Gomez through the trade may not have been the most popular move but at least it gave them the most talented center they have had in a very long time. Signing Gionta and Cammalleri effectively replaced their small, talented forwards with more small talented forwards. They lost out on a great defenceman, for the third year in a row, and signed Spacek and Gill to replace them. While the defence signings a decent they are not great and really wont make them that much better. The forwards have more potential and could take them off this list if they can produce. Gainey did add more offence and this should at least help this team a little. Their is potential for these signings to be better but right now the team neither improved nor failed on July 1st.
Calgary Flames
While the Jay Bouwmeester signing was a great signing, the Flames put themselves in a cap space pickle. If they can succeed this year without much cap trouble than they are winners. They gained another top 2 defenceman too add to Regehr and Phaneuf and added a good 5th or 6th guy in Pardy. Sjostrom adds a nice 4th line PK player for a cheap price. This was a good day for the team but the closeness to the cap that the Bouwmeester signing took them too makes them potential but not yet their winners.
Loser
New York Rangers
While Sather did a wondorous job of getting rid of a bad contract and getting good value for it, he effectively cancelled that improvement out. When he signed Gaborik to a 7.5 million a year for 5 years deal, he added a player who hasnt scored anymore points than Gomez has and a player who has played significantly less. When healthy Gaborik is an 80 - 90 point threat on the ice, but in recent seasons has only played 207 games of a possible 328 games. If he stays healthy for the next while and scores at a point per game pace at the very least then Sather did not make a mistake, but this could only a marginal better signing than a Gomez signing.
Chicago Blackhawks
While signing Marian Hossa to a 12 year deal where he makes only 5.2 million a year looks like a good deal by itself, it stops looking good when you look at the rest of the roster that GM Dave Tallon has. The Chicago team is very talented and only got more talented with this signing but Tallon backed himself into a very tight corner. The Blawkhawks have 17 players signed to 47.9 million dollars worth in cap space and they are left with roughly 8.9 million to sign 5 players neccesary to reach the 23 player roster. This leaves roughly 1.78 million per player needed. While that is doable it takes them very close to the cap and wouldnt even allow them to sign Barker, Versteeg, Eager or Brouwer (who will likely be looking for raises near, at or above that 1.78 million per player). This leaves Tallon with some difficult choices to make as to see who to keep and who to trade. And that is just this year. Next year they have roughly 31.9 million tied up in 9 players. If the cap stayed the same (its assumed it will drop but ill give them this) they have 24.9 million dollars to spend on 13 players. That's rouhly 1.9 million per player and they would still want to sign next seasons RFA's Duncan Keith, Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Niklas Hjalmarsson and Adam Burish. Each player will likely be getting significant raises. Their is no way they could keep all or even half of them and the fact that Campbell and Huet are almost unmovable leaves them with little options but to trade one of Keith, Toews or Kane at the very least and maybe even have to move a player like Patrick Sharp or Byfugien just to be able to sign Keith and one of Toews and Kane. And that doesnt take into account that they will for sure want to resign Versteeg and maybe Brouwer and Eager this season too. This Hossa deal is a really bad deal for Chicago and could spell long problems for them. Chicago loses no matter what.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by muckies on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | What about Ottawa? This team is the epic loser team, we started 2 season ago 18-2 and barely made the playoffs, last season we didnt make the playoffs, have made no changes, have an injury prones goalie, havew signed no free agents and no cap space...and our best goal scorer hates himself, our GM is a complete tool and only rellies on his draft choices (non of whom have played an NHL game in his 3 seasons, and non will make it this year) to keep his job.
No Cap space, no team changes, and we're sitting on 2 players that Coach MacT hated - Penner and Smid. THE SENS SUCK HUGE KAWK.
Ottawa is the new NHL gulag. |
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by the_word on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | Leafs win big. Burke didn't over extend himself, showed restraint, made deals that made sense. The signing of Komisarek and bringing in XLB have an air of nosalgia to them as they mark the beginnings of a return last time the Leafs had a dominant blueline. Gill, Ellet, Mironov, Macoun, Lefavre and Rouse were not puck moving defenseman or PP quauterbacks, they were solid, reliable and punishing and they won games. If we ship Kaberle and bring in Beauchemin it should be a welcome change. The McCabes, Kubinas, Leetchs, Kaberles (as much as I love Kaberle) have been failures.
Montreal was the loser. JFJ and Sather have proved that teams should be built piecemeal given the cap system. Gainey was clearly desperate after his five year plan was exposed last season. Sure the Leafs did not become a contender or even a playoff team over the last few days however unlike Gainey they did not disqualify their chance of being signifcant for the next five years either.
Tampa Bay made a marginal signing with a questionable term but Hedman alone makes them a winner.
Vancouver maintained, good for them.
Ditto for Minnisota, they signed another expensive peice of glass to replace the last one.
Calgary is the sleeper as they are getting overlooked. If Joikenen wakes from his slumber Calgary is the most improved team in the league and they were pretty good last year.
NYR have to be considered a winner in that they actually overspent on someone who when healthy can play at an elite level and they rid themselves of one of their horror show contracts. This is the best that can be expected from Sather.
Chicago wins in that the issue is not Hossa but Brian Campbell.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by pezzz123 on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | Dang. I was about to write the same article lol. Too bad!
Here's mine.
Anaheim : The jury's still out. While signing Niedermayer was a good start, they were needing at least 2 top 9 forwards. Also, if they don't resign Beauchemin, the D isn't looking as strong as it was. Time's not up yet, so we'll see. But they have to move if they don't wanna be losers.
Atlanta : Winners. They got a top 2 d-man for almost nothing and signed Antropov. Pricey contract yes, but if that's what it takes to keep Kovy happy...If those moves can lead Kovalchuk to resign with Atlanta (which is the most important), then they're clear winners.
Boston : The jury's still out. Resigning Recchi for cheap was a good step forward, but they still have to get Kessel and Hunwick under contract. They lost Hnidy, which is sad, and Axelsson is probably a goner too. If they don't get Kessel and Hunwick under contract for cheap, they'll be losers.
Buffalo : Losers. They needed a top 9 powerforward and at least 1 top 4 d-men. They got neither. All they signed is Steve Montador, a decent #6. Now that any puck-mover has left, (Spacek was the last one), I see Darcy Regier making a call to Dale Tallon about Brian Campbell. Losers!
Calgary : The jury's still out. Sutter made J-Bo his clear priority, and he signed to a long-term contract. Good. But now our attack looks suspect, and we clearly need a top 6 playmaker. There's enough money left to sign one or trade for one. If Sutter pulls the trigger, then Calgary are clear winners. Otherwise, it's so so.
Carolina : Winners. They didn't have any pressing needs, other than resigning their own FA, which they did. For cheap. It's a good start for the Canes, but summer 2010 will be the true challenge. Half their D are gonna be FA, along with Whitney, Cullen and Cam Ward. Tough summer ahead for the Canes. But for now? Winners.
Chicago : Winners. Having Hossa inked cheaper than Havlat is genius. Prying Kopecky from Detroit makes Byfuglien and his large contract expendable. Having John Madden achoring the 3rd line will bring stability and leadership. Their attack is scary, and there's still the possibility to unload Campbell to an unsuccessful July 1rst team like Buffalo, LA, Vancouver or Columbus. Clear winners.
Colorado : The jury's still out. They were obviously not going to be very vocal come July 1rst as they're a rebuilding team. Their real challenge is to unload a couple of their big contracts and to get younger and faster. Their July 1rst starts right now. So we'll see.
Columbus : Winners. It was obvious they weren't going to spend big bucks on July 1rst. Their needs are on D, and there wasn't any d-men out there corresponding to their needs. Instead, Howson chose to add some leadership and grit on the 3rd line by acquiring Sami Pahlsson. Great signature for a young squad. Now they have to sign Nash long-term. Winners...for now.
Dallas : The jury's still out. Resigning Lehtinen for cheap was a good step forward. Signing Skrasting is also a good move, who's gonna bring a physical presence on a rather small D. But now, Nieuwendyk's gotta make a trade and acquire a top d-man to take Zubov's place. They clearly lack a premium puck-mover. If they don't get him, they're losers.
Detroit : Losers. They put all their energies on resigning Hossa, and it still failed. It resulted in losing not only Hossa, but also Kopecky, Conklin and Samuelsson. Hudler's still not resigned. They now need a few top 9 forwards. Tough July 1rst for Holland and the Red Wings. Losers.
Edmonton : Winners. Their priority was to resign Roloson. He finally went to the Island. Pff! Whatever! They got a better goaltender than Rollie, for the same salary he was making last year. Welcome Bulinwall! They also had a deal in place to get their 1rst line sniper, but Heatley nixed the trade. Too bad, but
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by Kramer on Friday, July 03
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by Bure96 on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | I love the Michael Samuelsson signing. You have to really like Vancouver's depth upfront right now.
Burrows - Sedin - Sedin
Demitra - Kesler - Samuelsson
Raymond - Hodgson - Bernier
Rypien - Johnson - Wellwood
extras: Hordichuk
Mike Gillis really knows what he's doing. He's got 3 high end forward prospect in the system, that in about 3 years should all be top 6 forwards (Hodgson is franchise, Schroeder is 1st liner, Grabner is potential 30 goal scorer). He's not going to cripple them with long term deals.
Also looks like Jannik Hansen is going to be dealt. There's no room for him on this roster, and he's too good of a player to be stuck on the 4th liner again.
What about this deal?
Jannik Hansen straight up for Keith Yandle from Phoenix.
Phoenix has nothing in terms of a 3rd line. He would actually be a nice addition to the Coyotes, and Phoenix already has 6 defenders on 1 way deals, and still have Jonas Ahnelov in the minors and former 1st rounder Chris Summers in the system still.
Yandle can get good money from Vancouver. He's coming off a big year, and Phoenix doesn't want to commit 2.5+ million dollars to someone that's only proven themselves with one productive NHL season. Jannik Hansen will be cheaper, but he still has high upside.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by alpalstewart on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | | i think my oilers should be in the loser's list for the simple fact that no one wants to wear the oilers jersey. |
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by leafmeister (ottawasenators@willneverwinthecup.com) on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | I am trying not to be bias but I would have to say MTL is a huge loser. They got 3, small, expensive, hot and cold forwards. They lost Komisarek, and spent more on two older guys to replace him.
Ottawa is obviously a huge loser, not completely the fault of Murray, but partly.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | Anyone find it a little weird that one day after Grabovski signs a 3 yr deal, the next day Clowe signs a 4 yr deal with the sharks worth 3.5 a season leaving them with little to no cap space, and they still will need to sign Nabokov, Marleau, and Cheechoo who's contracts are going to expire soon, so... It's been talked about all over HTR Burke likes Clowe, and could offer a trade for him, seems a little fishy to me.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by Komic-J on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | Gainey did gamble on July 1st...a gamble that could eventually cost him his job if it doesn't work. But I think it's way too soon to label them as losers (not referring to the original article, but to some comments posted).
a) Gainey did spend a lot of money, but he did it on players willing to accept 5-years deal (or less). No way he would've matched the offer for Marian Hossa, or Mathias Ohlund.
b) Gainey did put a lot emphasis on player's durability during his press conference following the signings of Cammalleri, Gionta and the others. Makes me think that both Havlat and Gaborik weren't on Gainey's list from day-1.
c) Gainey did overpay for every single one of them. He had to...not only is it the free agency, it's Montreal. But at least, this time, he didn't waste all his effort on one particular player, missing out on all the others, only to see him sign elsewhere. He went outhere, made his pitch, and got out with a bunch of talented players. Yeah, they're small...and lack of size is a concern. But it's a gamble worth takin at this point. Gainey couldn't find a way to get his hand on LeCavalier, and Vancouver did what they had to do, keeping the Sedin twins. Gainey wasted no time, and went with Plan C.
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by Stuv_Dogg on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | The Canadiens fall to my losers list for failing to address two of their biggest needs.
Their first biggest need is a veteran goaltender to mentor Price. Through the latter part of last year and the playoffs, the Price/Halak combination looked lost. Montreal had a chance to sign a goalie like Roloson for cheap, giving them the option to flip Halak for some young skill. Roloson would have been a perfect fit - he has played in a tandem goalie situation in Minnesota, he can play long stretches of games if need be, but similarly he's at an age where he might not mind riding the pine for long stretches if Price shines. The goaltending will be a problem in Montreal this year.
Second, the team was soft and got softer. They lost Komisarek, one of their rougher players, and got players who are older and nearing the ends of their careers to replace him. Up front they resemble a pee-wee team in terms of their stature. Maybe Bob Gainey knows of a rule change that will allow ankle biting and wanted to get a head start on the rest of the league. Opposing teams will take liberties with the Canadiens forwards because there is really no-one on the Canadiens roster who will make them pay the price. FYI, Laraque only racked up 61 PIM's last year, so while theoretically an enforcer didn't exactly back up this claim. Also, Laraque can't be on the ice fighting everyone's fights all the time and there really is no plan B ...
On a side note, anyone think it weird that Gainey didn't/couldn't/wouldn't resign Komisarek at $4.5 million per year but doesn't mind paying Hamrlik $5.5 million? Komisarek doesn't put up the points (11 points in 08-09 ... yikes!) but is a big mean body and is young ... |
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by wingerxxx on Friday, July 03
(User Info | Send a Message) | You can't call the Rangers losers yet. That remains to be seen. Recent history is not on the Rangers' side here. But then again, if Gaborik plays up to his potential, the deal is well worth it. Sather still deserves props for rectifying his mistake with Scott Gomez, by getting rid of him. Gomez is not an elite center, but Gaborik is definitely an elite winger. And this trade opens up some potential ice time for Brandon Dubinsky to show what he's really made of. So get this team off the losers list. They may very well be once we know how Gaborik performs, but not yet.
With the Canadients...again...remains to be seen. Gomez is essentially Saku Koivu, Pt. II, only he's a little stronger on the puck, and much more inconsistent. Gomez would be a nice compliment to a great roster (See 2001 New Jersey Devils), but he's not going to put a team over the top, as the Rangers found out. And don't forget, he got to play with Jaromir Jagr, a guy who had the ability to make players around him better. |
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by BruMagnus (PensCup2009@hotmail.com) on Sunday, July 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | The Penguins are the biggest winners.
They re-sign Guerin, Fedotenko and Adams at PAYCUTS.
That's what happens when you have a calibre team. People take paycuts to play with you.
Pens now have 11 of 12 forwards and 16 of 20 players from the Cup Finals returning this year for the repeat. |
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Re: Winners and Losers after July 1st (Score: 1)
by the_word on Sunday, July 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | The player I most wanted to see leave the Leafs got traded and the player I wanted signed for a number I like. I won the deadline.
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