Aubin or Tellqvist?

Who is gonna be Raycroft’s back up?I honestly think it should be Aubin beacause, he proved that he can play lots of games and still do a great job. As much as i like Telly, he hasn’t shown that he can be a great goalie every game and he isn’t very good under pressure. Look at last year in the last 3 games he played for the leafs, he let in 18 goals.

Now I wanna know who you think will be Raycroft’s back up…


23 Responses to Aubin or Tellqvist?

  1. wingedim says:

    I’ll agree with you that Aubin will likely get the nod. Telly had his chance last year when the chips were down and blew it. He can be a good goalie, and I like him as well, however, he’s never really had a great season in the AHL either.

    I think Aubin’s experience at the NHL level, while technically a failure, albeit on a team with little to no Defense at the time, is helping his cause. That and the fact that he went from NHL starter to the AHL has helped in his maturation as a player. Yes he still has that ‘chip on his shoulder’ but, he’s still young and as he matures that will change.

  2. kamullia says:

    Tellqvist should and will dictate what happens in that department when it is all said and done. Aubin is just a goaltender passing by.

    As far as pressure, Aubin has also a long long history of folding under the pressure throughout his career. The bigger the stakes, the bigger his flop has been, and I am sure that his past history is firmly in JFJ’s mind. But the major thing to keep in mind with Aubin is that he has always been a streaky goalie. When he is up, he is up. But when he is down, get the shovel, sonar, and O2 tanks and call for help. The hope really is that Tellqvist is not like Aubin, and will not follow in his footsteps.

    The real question is, what is JFJ aiming to do if both show about the same level of performance? If he is set on a playoff spot (and the team responds) then Aubin is the guy, only because he has experience (even if mostly negative). If he is thinking about the future, Tellqvist is the guy, and the gained experience should help him along. My personal choice would be Tellqvist because I do not see the Leafs winning a cup this year, therefore might as well. But in the end I feel Aubin will get the nod, because JFJ is in a bit of hot water and wants to make the playoffs to put something in the “good things” column. Otherwise, he might be looking for a job come the off-season.

  3. 92-93 says:

    Right now I would carry all 3 goalies and trade one them as the season progresses (obviously early on in October would be preferable).

    again, this article and the comments made on Tellqvist suffer from an incredible lack of context.

    no one talks about the games he stole for the leafs leading up to the montreal games (home win against TB, the home win against Carolina, among others). no one talks about how the leafs played their worst effort AS A TEAM in front of Tellqvist in those two games in Montreal. I don’t know what is more appaling, knowing that in the 2 most important games of the year, the leafs played their worst D EVER under Pat Quinn (which is pretty bad) or that some Leaf fans continue to forget this fact.

    finally, the game in buffalo that Telly played, Quinn threw him to the wolves against a playoff-ready Sabres squad. the leafs were just eilminated the night before and actually topped their poor effort in montreal by playing a stinker in Buffalo. Telly did a lot for this team last year (please look AT THE ENTIRE SEASON NEXT TIME) and all he gets from leaf fans and reporters is those 2 games in montreal.

    its also very very comical to suggest that those 2 games in monteral were the reason why the leafs were eliminated. NO. the reason why they were elminated was their performance in January and Februrary. PERIOD.

  4. 92-93 says:

    Right now I would carry all 3 goalies and trade one them as the season progresses (obviously early on in October would be preferable).

    again, this article and the comments made on Tellqvist suffer from an incredible lack of context.

    no one talks about the games he stole for the leafs leading up to the montreal games (home win against TB, the home win against Carolina, among others). no one talks about how the leafs played their worst effort AS A TEAM in front of Tellqvist in those two games in Montreal. I don’t know what is more appaling, knowing that in the 2 most important games of the year, the leafs played their worst D EVER under Pat Quinn (which is pretty bad) or that some Leaf fans continue to forget this fact.

    finally, the game in buffalo that Telly played, Quinn threw him to the wolves against a playoff-ready Sabres squad. the leafs were just eilminated the night before and actually topped their poor effort in montreal by playing a stinker in Buffalo. Telly did a lot for this team last year (please look AT THE ENTIRE SEASON NEXT TIME) and all he gets from leaf fans and reporters is those 2 games in montreal.

    its also very very comical to suggest that those 2 games in monteral were the reason why the leafs were eliminated. NO. the reason why they were elminated was their performance in January and Februrary. PERIOD.

  5. wingedim says:

    I agree with your statements regarding Telly. I was just pointing out the fact that even at the AHL level, he’s never really had a ‘stellar’ season where he has shown he can be reliable.

    He was having a reasonable year when he was called up to back up Kidd a couple years back when Eddie went out long term with his back. Kidd lost his job to Telly during that stretch, but when Eddie came back, Telly was sent back down since he was on a 2 way deal, instead of dumping Kidd down and risk losing him to waivers. Since that time Telly hasn’t really be solid enough to be a go to guy. Yes he’s shown brilliance again this preseason, and so has Aubin. I just think that Aubin, with his new maturity as a goalie and previous NHL experience is in a similar boat as Raycroft…the need to prove they deserve to be at the NHL level so that he can reclaim a #1 goalie spot again somewhere. Telly however, is destined to be a backup.

  6. 92-93 says:

    Telly is not suppose to be the go-to guy, and neither is Aubin. I am just as confident in Telly if not more so than i am in Aubin.

    Aubin is 2 years older than Telly, that is it. he has more NHL experience but he has also been given a better shot at the NHL than Telly has ever gotten.

    under the Quinn regime Telly was never given a good shot and has been unfairly treated. he was thrown to the wolves during March of last year and performed well up until montreal when his team decided to take a defensive vacation.

    if Raycroft goes down to injury or long-term injury, i want Telly to be given his shot once and for all, behind a team coached by Maurice to be better defensively and systems-wise.

    not aubin, who is not very well-liked and has been just as up-and-down in his career as Telly has been. Aubin is never going to be more than a back-up. Raycroft has better skills than Aubin and cannot be grouped into the same class as Aubin IMO.

  7. rollinfatty says:

    Mark my words that at some point this season Tellqvist will be traded. I honestly think that he is being shopped around by the leafs.

  8. The-President says:

    Look, Aubin is a good goaltender, that should not get judged by his Penguins years. He played on a sucky team and still managed to get good numbers. Look at Marc Andre Fluery, his record sucks, should they write him off no. Its the team that surrounds you that ultimately makes your stats. If Marty Brodeur was put on a team like the Pens, he too would have decent statistics. Look at Marc Denis, he was on a bad team, but the Lightening relize his potential. I would even go as far as saying that Aubin may be better then Raycroft. The Bruins were never as low as the Pens, and also what about Lalime, If you put Lalime on the Pens he would be disastorous, but when he was on the Sens he was almost elite. Aubin’s record is 72-72, thats pretty damn good for playing on a sucky team. He is a good guy, and about the guy at the top that says he flops when it counts, when has it ever counted? Never because he was on the Pens. He’s good, and he might even be better then Raycroft, give him a whole season behind a real team, with an above average defense, and see what would happen.

  9. mojo19 says:

    I think Aubin is their guy.

    But like Craig Button said on the fan 590 today, part of it has to do with the repore each guy has with Raycroft, they want them to get along and have a good system so they can be an effective tandem.

    So since both guys are playing well, we can’t base it all on their play alone.

  10. rollinfatty says:

    If they are looking for a guy to get along with Raycroft then they’ll be wanting Tellqvist, he is great in the locker room and is similar ages as Raycroft.

  11. 92-93 says:

    the cuts made today in camp were pretty much expected. Tlusty, Pogge, etc.

    but i am truly dumbfounded by the demotion of Jeremy Williams. this kid is ready for the NHL NOW.

    he plays one game, gets 2 pts and he’s cut. makes no sense to me. But then again, as the season progresses, he’ll get called up and make this very early decision to cut him to be a huge mistake. I see him scoring at least 30-40 points and 15-25 goals right now in the NHL. easily.

    all the other cuts make sense. so now how many cuts left?

  12. 92-93 says:

    youre probably right.

    it wont take long for the goaltending holes to appear on other teams – that is why i think its a good idea to carry 3 goaltenders for the first month.

  13. leafmeister says:

    Aubin had tones of pressure to get the leafs into the playoffs and although they didnt make it it was not because of his goaltending

  14. leebrien21 says:

    Aubin . . period . ..next question

    i am not sasying this so difinitavely as a put down to Telly . . .i think they are both equal in tallent and consistency . . .i think telly is worth more to the Leafs on the open market . . telly has a slightly larger contract and can produce if given the chance . . .he can be a #1 on the right team (Pittsburgh would be a good fit to challenge Fleury) and aubin has the fans on his side by and large. i think telly a prospect(either off the roster or out of the AHL) and a pick(2-4 round) would go a long way in bringing in what the leafs need right now . . .some offence . . .might not get a top line winger but a solid 2nd line guy with some touch would be ideal . . .in conclusion . . .Aubin all the way

  15. the_word says:

    Never played a gamed that counted? He played about 15 with the Leafs last year when they were making a desperate push for the playoffs and he played pretty well, if only Telquist could respond to that kind of pressure in Montreal the Leafs may have made the playoffs.

  16. mojo19 says:

    Injuries exactly. Don’t forget Wellwood was cut last year, and when mats got hurt game 1, Wellwood came up and never looked back.

  17. mojo19 says:

    Even if Telly would be a “good fit” in Pittsburgh. They won’t be able to move Thibault.

    I’d guess Vancouver would be most likely looking for a backup with Norrenen playing in Europe this year.

  18. The-President says:

    I’m talking about when he was on the Pens, please read right…. I’m referring to the other guys post that said he has a history of flopping when games count, When he was on the Pens, What counted? Nothing, so I am sticking up for Aubin.

  19. leaflova says:

    they have cloutier

  20. TML51 says:

    Though I think that Telly would be a better long term option, the Leafs are in a rebuilding phase, and I agree that he would probably get more on the open market than Aubin.

    This is the back-up position, and while an important part of the team make-up, not a cruical one such as Raycroft. With Pogge waiting in the wings and a solid back-up like Aubin signed, it is safe to move Telly and hopefuly get a respectable pick or depth player for him.

    Telly did blow a big opportunity last year, but rather than indicate lack of skill, I think it more showed his immaturity at this point. Aubin has a lot more experience behind him, and was able to take that situation more in stride.

    Telly would be a great fit for a team looking to groom a primary netminder. The Leafs already have Raycroft and Pogge, both still fairly young and with plenty of room to grow in the organization. Telly doesn’t seem to fit in this anymore. I honestly think the Leafs will move him in the next few months.

  21. leafsmarlies says:

    Aubin got the job last year.

  22. the_word says:

    If that’s what you were referring to then reply to his post. So I guess what I’m asking is please post right, I’ll keep reading just fine. I was merely emphasizing the point that the Leafs should keep Aubin.

  23. the_word says:

    cloutier is in LA

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