Avs finally looking to move O’Reilly

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  1. LN91 says:

    I think it’s stupid for the Avs to trade within the conference, so here are the most likely teams from the East I believe should kick tires:

    – Washington, have Riberio…But wouldn’t O’Reilly be a nice option behind Backstrom who looks like he needs help?

    -Florida, you got Huberdeau…Why not add O’Reilly to slot right behind him?

    -Montreal, look at Florida…But with Galchenyuk.

    – Buffalo, look at Florida and Montreal. Would he not look good with Grigorenko? Also, could a player like Hodgson get it done?

    -Toronto, finally…A young C that might be a future Selke winner…His offensive ceiling could be higher and would be great between Kessel and JVR.

    – New Jersey, he just seems like a DeBoer type player.

    Now, I like those 5 teams to contend for his services…But I don’t think Toronto, Montreal, or New Jersey have the necessary assets to acquire him. I know lafleur will disagree, but I don’t see anything in that pool that they would want. Maybe Montreal will overpay? Who knows?

    I actually like Buffalo or possibly Washington here…Florida would be smart to jump in as well. Any others agree?

    • LN91 says:

      Mhmm, Montreal could be the favorite here…Apparently an offer of Eller, LeBlanc, and Diaz for O’Reilly.

      I would be a great move for the Habs, and another blow to the Leafs as they have already watched Turris last year go to Phoenix.

      Would Joe Colborne, Carl Gunarsson, and another prospect get it done?

      • doorman says:

        I am not sure that gets it done to be honest. Eller would be going to his third team, Leblanc has failed to crack a goal starved line up two years running considering how high they were on him. Diaz is he a late bloomer or just having a really good year?

    • reinjosh says:

      I don’t see much reason for Buffalo to move Hodgson to get O’Reilly. It seems like a risky sideways move to me. Hodgson is playing great right now and exactly like they expected when they sent Kassian away for him.

      Florida could…maybe. But Devin Shore is playing pretty well right now and is a very similar player. Why pay for something you might already have? Plus with Bjugstad going pro next season, why not just hold fast with the rebuild plan.

      And Washington I doubt. Ribeiro was there long term fix for the 2nd line and he’s playing outstanding. The issue is that Backstrom isn’t. Unless they play on transitioning O’Reilly or Backstrom to win, I can’t see them making a move.

      New Jersey? Interesting but who do they give up? DeBoer like player for sure though.

      Montreal would have interest I’m sure. Eller/Leblanc/Diaz and maybe toss in one of their three 2nd rounders. That would be a strong package.

      Toronto. I’m going back and forth with him. Is he really any better than what we have? Call me crazy but I’m not sure I’d want to send Grabo for him (and maybe I’m biased) but one season of a basic Grabo season isn’t anything I’m calling superstar quality. At the same time, he could be a nice fit and maybe he does have more room to grow offensively. I haven’t watched him at all though so take my concerns with an understanding that there is an information bias in it (can’t be helped).

    • blaze says:

      I’m actually torn on this myself. O’Reilly is indeed a great young player who could best case scenario go on to become our version of Patrice Bergeron but less physical.

      The question is is he the right play for Toronto. The idea of giving up Kessel for him is downright ludicrous.

      It seems like he is the natural replacement for Tyler Bozak but is he even an improvement? Im aware of the age difference and don’t discredit potential but let’s look at the facts. He offers no increase in size over Bozak. He offers no improvement in face off ability. He is out hit by Bozak 2-1 as he is not a physical player.

      Is it worth taking a well liked guy like Bozak out and replacing him with a guy who might not even perform as well who could be viewed as KHL holdout and not a team player?

      If it is Grabovski going the other way from a cap perspective it may make sense by what will O’Reilly command. Again how is the room effected bringing in a you g holdout and losing an agitating heart and soul type in Grabo. O’Reilly is defensively sound but can he handle a shut down role on a team with playoff aspirations?

      I like O’Reilly but I am torn on the subject and potential cost.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        Blaze you forget that Kessel is useless because he doesn’t play the only important position (center), he doesn’t even backcheck so he’ll never be an effective 4th line player and he doesn’t hit. All he can really do is score goals and set up goals, he’s completely one dimensional.

        And if we trade him we’ll definitely get a 1st overall pick. So just trade him and Phaneuf already.

  2. doorman says:

    I don’t think Boston has the ability to aquire him, IMO, they have players of there own they need to resign. Buffalo could as they have some talemt, but they also have a a bunch of resigns. I agree with the asset outlook of the others. i gus what happens is depending on where you sit in the 11th hour, if you don’t have what’s need on hand do you trade a pick? Personally I think they next 7-10 days will tell the Leafs a lot. If they are close could they turn face and again trade a 1st?

  3. nordiques100 says:

    Interesting to see JD go outside the box with his Kekalainen hire.

    Boy do they ever have work to do to repair that franchise.

    Maybe repair isnt the right word, rebuild maybe.

    The first order of business is to get a good coach. Outside Hitch, their hires have been terrible. Its time they bring in someone with experience and respect. It would help too if they stabilize their minor league system.

    secondly, they best not rush any more prospects. Johansen played a full season as a 19 year old. He does not look like he’s gained anything in his game. Filatov is out of the NHL after he was traded away for a 3rd rounder. John Moore played a full season too as a teen and managed to be one of the worst minus players. He too doesn’t look like he’s developed.

    With Murray now missing a full season practically, I wonder if they will rush him too despite not even playing.

    Jenner is their other good prospect. He’s more of a role guy, not a front line guy so he’s poised to play 5 minutes a game accomplishing nothing.

    that’s the kind of culture change the Jackets have to make. be patient with their prospects and let them thrive in winning environments. having them as 4th liners watching the team lose and suffer night after night is pointless.

    • reinjosh says:

      Three first round picks could be a huge help. Slow things down with Murray (that injury could really be a blessing in disguise) and Jenner and things could be looking real strong soon enough.

      There first is near a guaranteed top 5 pick. So one of Jones/MacKinnon/Drouin/Barkov/Lindholm. Those will be some absolutely sick players.

      LA is looking bad right now. Can they improve enough to make that pick a playoff pick? I’m going to hazard a no and say its bottom 15. That could be a nice player too. Even NYR’s pick (which will be late) could be a high potential player.

      They could have a real nice contingent of prospects soon enough.

      Kekalainen had some real success with picks in St Louis. Could be interesting to see how he works his first draft with three first rounders.

      • nordiques100 says:

        the draft is considered deep by many analysts so I think even if the Kings move up, the Jacks will get 3 good prospects.

        the 3 picks will expedite the rebuild, but for their sake they do need to fix how they develop. if they do that, they could be noticed sooner than later.

        • doorman says:

          Ya nodes this draft is supposed to be awesome. This is the reason I don’t want Nonis trading our first even for ROR. It is hard to tell where we will end up but it looks like mid/late teens maybe early 20’s. I know who I want to see where our colours lol just hope Nonis agrees

          • nordiques100 says:

            Like i said, Reilly and the 1st along with Gardiner are as close to untouchable as possible.

            Though i did float possibly Gardiner for Myers option. The age and potential of Myers, very much along the same lines as JG as well as having Reilly in the fold, a Gardineresque defenceman, is something I’d do.

            I again put O’Reilly along with Kulemin. At that level. I’d rather have the big O, many prefer Kuly. I think though O has more upside and i guess i am partial to an Ontario guy. But I dunno if i’d move any one of the 3 main assets for him.

            I think Myers is a special player, hence Gardiner for example. I think O’Reilly is a really really good player, but I don’t put him in the special category.

  4. kessel_leafs81 says:

    I saw a post on a different thread saying i think it was eklund is reporting that perry is anaheims first choice of resigning before getzlaf? Personally i dont think this is true at all.. who do they have instead getzlaf at the center position? saku koivu? no. They MUST resign getzlaf. They have bobby ryan as a top line winger, and theres better stop gaps at wing then there are center in the nhl. That being said, perry’s a very interesting option. Trade deadline:

    To Col: macarthur, colborne, 2nd rounder

    To tor: O’reilly, 5th round

    trade away gunnarson and bozak for 2nd round picks. (clears up cap space for plans on signing UFA and maximizes the value of these players by trading them at the deadline, gunnarson might fetch a 1st rounder)

    Sign Corey Perry

    Perry – o’reilly – kessel
    JVR – grabovski – Lupul
    Kulimen – kadri – frattin
    komarov – mcclement – Orr

    Phaneuf – holzer
    gardiner – liles
    reilly – franson

    Reimer – scrivens

    • Steven_Leafs0 says:

      If we get Perry, flipping Bozak and Gunner isn’t that bad, but 2nd rounders for them is a loss. Imagine if it ended up being MacArthur, Bozak, Gunnarsson, Colborne, 2nd for O’Reilly, 5th… huge loss.

      Adding to the O’Reilly offer you made, I don’t think it gets it done for the only reason that MacArthur is UFA, if it was Kulemin, Colborne, 2nd then it gets done IMO. Maybe if you add a conditional 2nd in 2014 to the MacArthur deal if he doesn’t re-sign then that one may do it, still unsure though.

      • doorman says:

        If it is Kule, i am sure there is no way that 2nd is in there.

      • kessel_leafs81 says:

        I’m saying we should trade MacArthur and gunnarson for high picks for two reasons, maybe we hit a solid prospect in the second round or late first and to create cap room to be able to out bid other teams for perry.. Say we don’t get anybody with those pics.. It’d be MacArthur gunnarson colborne bozak and a second for oreilly Corey perry and a 5th rounder.. That’s a whole different story cause without the cap space that deal doesn’t happen

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          It will all depend on where the Leafs are in the standings at the trade deadline. Although there is no room for MacArthur right now, playoffs will have injuries and he would be great to move into a spot left open due to an injury. He adds great depth.
          I honestly see no advantage to move Gunarsson for a 2nd round pick because the chances of drafting a player in the second round as good as him are minimal. If you think he will want big money to re-sign…that’s a different story.

  5. doorman says:

    So kessel’s agent says what has been said by agents before, Kessel wants to finish his carreer as a leaf. I have no issue’s with this as he is an elite sniper and teams need those. He is also appearing to play a more complete game. Now, lol, what’s Dion wanna do and how much do they cost us?

    • toronto77 says:

      There are not many Kessel’s in the league, he is a keeper I say give him what he wants as our way of saying thanks for putting up with the crappy team he had to play on, though for the first time Kessel is back checking beautifully I think JVR makes that line tougher.

      As for Phaneuf, There are a lot of d-men in the league that can replace him. I say trade him. He’s not worth the money and our defence is getting dangerously crowded.

      • Steven_Leafs0 says:

        crowded with Fraser, Kostka, and Holzer… while nice young 3rd pairing pieces, they do not bring 25+ minutes a night, every night. If we are trading Phaneuf we need to get the 1st line center we are missing or a D-man to replace those minutes (pointless deal). For me the minimum return would have to be:

        Phaneuf, small piece(s)


        Stastny level center or better.

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          I agree SL. Although I am not always thrilled with his game, the last 2-3 games he has been very ggod. I hope Phaneuf keeps it up. I don’t think he is a $6.5 mil defencemen…more like a $5-$5.75 but if he can keep playing the way he has over the past couple of games, he is an asset to the team.
          As for trading him, exactly, we need to get back something we “need”.

          • nordiques100 says:

            Defence like him are hard to find.

            Much harder than soft, disinterested centres like Stastny.

            I think i’d rather bring back Well-Fed than the guy who couldn’t carry his dad’s hockey stick.

            • doorman says:

              OOOOOOO, nords, lol, that was harsh man, lol, his dad is a legend. But I hear what you are saying. The best we can hope for is a guy like Dion decides he will re-up for the same money.

            • realistic_leafs_fan says:

              He probably carried his dad’s hockey stick as a kid.LOL
              I wouldn’t trade Dion for Stastny, but there are players I would move him for.

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