Some big names could move in NHL off-season
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How good would that hypothetical Kessel for Monahan trade look right now?
well it wouldn’t look bad at all lol, however at the time it was an unknown for a proven ppg player.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/24/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-william-nylander-growing-his-game-in-the-hard-hitting-ahl/
Nylander and Kadri are essentially the same player. Only difference, like I said a million times, one player wants it and works for it and the other wants it but expects it.
Does anyone see Nylander as a centre or a winger? I see him ending up being a winger but the Leafs see him as a centre. He could have a Steve Sullivan type career
Though the Leafs will probably hope Nylander puts up more points, Sullivan had a decent NHL Career that included 1 70+ point season and over 1000 games played. Even if he can match his dad’s numbers at the very least that too wouldn’t be bad.
The Leafs requested the played him at center in Sweden, when he came to the Marlies he started as center but has switched to LW. They’ll most likely start him at wing in the NHL, but he could end up at center like Seguin/Giroux who started as RW.
It also depends on the players they have available to them. But i’d bet on him being a winger.
It will be interesting. He could have a ceiling as high as guys like Ray Whitney or even St. Louis.
Or else, Sullivan. either wouldnt be bad.
The way the Leafs are going, there’s an outside chance that Edmonton or Phoenix will catch the Leafs in the standings.
If that happens, Hanifin would be a possibility. He’s compared to Rob Blake. If he’s anywhere near Blake, need to draft Hanifin. But also happy with finishing 4th and drafting Strome.
As good as Hanifin is, I still think the pick has to be Strome over Hanifin.
Toronto is a bottom feeder next year as well, and there are some good d-Men in that draft…But no Centres.
Chychrun and Sean Day look to be a solid partner for Morgan
I agree. I feel defence is a crapshoot.
Lets look at a guy like Larsson. He was like the next Lidstrom and is still looking to find his way.
Or even Jones. He was a consensus no. 1 overall pick even at the mid year rankings. Fell to 4th.
Even Hedman, only last year showed what he can do. After what, 3 seasons of development? I’d imagine a guy like Hanifin would need a lot of seasoning. (a lot for him being at least a year or 2)
on the flip side there was Ekblad. I feel though the OHL prepares you for the NHL better than the college game. Ekblad has been incredible when you really see what he has been able to accomplish.
And back a few years, Doughty and Pietrangelo certainly showed what they’re capable of immediately. On the flip side, Bogosian has lacked consistency and has emerged more as a stay at home Dman than a big time two way impact guy.
And Schenn is more a 3rd pair Dman at best rather than an elite shut down guy/future captain as he was made out to be.
I just think its a lot harder to find that big centre with skill and all the traits to be a no. 1 guy.
Strome i think goes 3rd. But it depends on who is there at 3.
Obviously McDavid/Eichel are 1-2, no matter who picks there.
But say Phoenix is at 3? Do they go with Hanifin since they traded away Yandle and may be looking at replacing him? Or do they want the big scoring centre to be the future guy to be between Domi and Duclair?
And Edmonton, they’ve long wanted a big top centre. Though they too need a top flight Dman, do they go with the forward or settle in on what many consider the consensus no. 3 with Hanifin. I see the Oilers not losing with either pick, but maybe they too pass on the D and go with Strome as well.
Toronto like Edmonton can’t lose with either, but i would suspect they lean towards the centre. I think too a lot of that will be because Dubas and Hunter have seen him a lot. And I think he would have a quicker and equally long term impact than Hanifin. With Reilly, and Gardiner for that matter, the Leafs have more options on defence than forward. Yes, most teams draft “the best guy available” regardless of position, but in this case, i think all things being equal, Strome is the guy they select if they’re at 3.
If they remain 4th, that will get interesting should Strome still go 3rd. Do they go with Hanifin…..or do they go with the Hunter fav, Mitch Marner? I think that will be a huge decision right there. Hunter obviously knows Marner more than any other prospect in the draft and the kid has been electric in the OHL. So it will be certainly a very interesting situation to watch.
I here what you are saying based on the centre position, however I would rather draft the next Rob Blake then the next Eric Staal and I am from Thunder Bay, lol. Hanifin is just too good to pass up, IMO. That being said we have an outside shot at 2nd overall pick if you think about it. The Leafs are a complete disaster and my not win again this season( I hope,LOL). Arz has won 2 in a row and play Pitt (not playing well) and Buf by Monday two wins and they are only two points lower then the Leafs. Edm also could win a few. Jack Eichel would fix everything.
Also listening to HUnters interview on Leafs Lunch, he likes Marner but he talked highly about several other prospects, especially Barzal who he flew out to see. I am more curious with what we do with Nashville’s 1st and what if anything Phaneuf, Kessel, Bozak can be possibly turned into.
Edmonton got Leon last year, huge center.
Yeah I think they’re better off with Nuge, Leon and Hanifin rather than Nuge, Strome, Leon.
I don’t think that matters to them. They were searching for a big centre via trade. I still think that’s what they’re going to look for.
I agree, Hanifin makes sense, but the Oilers I don’t know. I feel they’re going to want a forward.
I think they want an experienced Center down the middle with size…How does having a Strome help the others? They need some mentors in Edmonton, they obviously have some talent.
They need Hanifin way more, adding Strome will be continuing the mess.
When the Oilers win I’m like a dog wagging his tail upon seeing a leash.
Only three points back…
Love how so many people had wet feelings for Cody Franson when he played for Toronto.. He’s averaging like 12 mins a game for Nashville these past 7 games. He wasn’t ever anything more than a bottom pairing defenseman. So glad Toronto got rid of him before they signed him to a massive deal.
What a steal we got from Nashville.
If Shanahan wasn’t in charge, I’d have to think Nonis would have signed Franson to that huge contract and perhaps would have traded assets to feebly attempt a run at 8th place.
Yeah, love how everyone just ignored that a season ago he was a borderline NHL player. Franson was Dave Andreychuk without the scoring touch, on the blueline.
It was a steal. Absolutely agree.
They had some of the top draft prospects do a self evaluation. I really didn’t expect that answer from McDavid.
1. Connor McDavid, C, Erie Otters (OHL)
2014-15: 47 games, 44-76-120, 48 PIM, plus-60 rating, 9 power-play goals
Height/weight: 6-foot-1, 195 pounds
Who is the NHL player your play would most likely be compared to:
“Tyler Bozak because he is a good skater and is more of a pass-first type of guy.”
What???? Link?? Hahahahaha
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=760162&navid=DL|NHL|home
They’ve posted a few of the players’ answers.
Either McDavid doesn’t watch Leaf games or he’s the most humble prospect in NHL history.
Kid is smart, very dry and excellent dig.
Clever.
Ah screw you Kessel, we don’t need any more points especially with Edmonton right behind us.
Boooooo.
Ottawa blows a 2 goal lead in a game when they could have done the Leafs a big favor by winning. I hate that fucking team with a passion.
Why do I get the feeling that Ottawa will miss the playoffs due to tie-breakers and Toronto will miss out on 3rd overall pick by a point?
Grrrr. Lol
It would be beautiful if Ottawa misses by 1 point. I’d break out the bubbly and celebrate.
Bozak does his best Boyd Devereaux, faaaaaaahhhk
All i can say is WTF was that?
All the Leafs need…Is for the standings to end like they are today (which might be likely) and either the Leafs, Coyotes, or Sabres to win the draft.
As much as Nords does not think so, the Oilers will most likely draft Hanifin.
They have options at C in the future, they have none at D outside of Nurse.
Good ol Carolina got a valuable point last night against Boston. Looking good so far, but still a bit nervous.
Yeah not falling to 28th place or losing the lottery could have us miss out on Strome (which other than McDavid or Eichel I feel is important to get, big potentially elite level center and with a lot of high level defenseman in the next draft could really full in every major need we have in just 2 years).
Keeping fingers crossed.
Sabres vs Coyotes tonight. Battle of the shits.
Buffalo wins 4-1. Wow Arizona must really suck.
I like Hanifin as much as the next guy, but Don Cherry is somewhat right. I think the Leafs if they had the choice between Strome or Hanifin, they have to take Strome.
A guy who has a chance to be a top player, who is actually from around here, that is a win-win situation if you ask me.
They obviously need both a C and a D, but getting Strome would be a huge coup.
I’ve come around on that too. Now hopefully we can “hang on” to the 4th spot.
Completely agree. Especially considering that next years draft has a lot of high end defensive prospects and little to no high end centers we just have to grab Strome.
Tank Leafs tank.
And yet another useless win last night.
If they had only lost the last 2, the Oilers would have been 1 point behind, not 5.
I’ve resided to the fact the Leafs will be 4th or 5th. Its a shame really.
But, I get the feeling that if McDavid, Eichel and Strome go 1-2-3, I think the Leafs will select Marner 4th overall. I don’t know if they can pass on him either being another Ontario kid, being a London Knight where Hunter worked/owns and having that kind of skill.
I know Hanifin is very appealing, but I just don’t think Marner will be passed on.
Maybe the Oilers do pick Strome, however, once again, this franchise will be making the wrong pic which is why they are the only rebuilding team in history to fail at completing it.
You can stick 12 talented forwards on the ice, but if you do not have defence…You are not winning anything.
Look at Philly right now.
Now, if they want to possibly win a cup one day…Hanifin would have to be the choice.
All i can say is that if the Leafs have a choice, its Strome, Marner then Hanifin.
I really doubt Hanifin gets selected over those two.
You are probably right and worst thing is it could be the wrong call. All scouting agencies and polled scouts by the insiders have Hanifin at 3rd all year. I know I am in the minority but I think they should take him American or not always BPA, right?
Cherry as much as I like him would say the Leafs should take Marner or Strome over Eichel based on being talented local kids as well, I think, lol
Well they can’t go wrong with any of those 3.
Skill skill skill. thats the big thing now for the Leafs.
Boston built a contender and won a cup while trading away top five picks like Seguin and Kessel.
You can make the wrong choice, Nylanders, Kadris, Marners, Kessels, can pad stats but a less than useless in playoff runs.
The Bruins have sucked balls since they traded Seguin.
They were better with him.
Seguin is a sexy long term piece but point is two finals and a cup because they built a team not looked for a savoir.
No like Dallas is doing well with Seguin, they’re at least four years away from being good.
However, that is not Seguin’s fault for the problems in Dallas. He has been incredible.
Dallas has a thin defence and could use some better depth players. I hope they use this offseason to find them as they could be a great team.
So, thank god the Sabres won yesterday as the Leafs still have a chance at 4th last. Carolina is 3 points up with 3 games in hand and an easier schedule. Let’s hope for the best.
Also, everyone can be upset about a few wins recently, but let’s be real here. The Leafs had to go 10-34-3 to be in this position and that is no easy task.
Interesting story about the Oilers maybe trading down.
I seriously doubt that will happen. If they end up 2nd or 1st overall, they’re taking McEichel. They will not be trading down.
That being said, yes, I agree 50 percent that they do need Hanifin. That team needs a lot though. Either way, they’re going to add to a talented young group.
But, will they make a trade moving one of their younger players up front? Is Hall on the block? Eberle? I am curious to see what they do.
What they do would impact the Leafs who also have a skilled winger like Kessel available.
Speaking of Kessel, there is still a lot of talk of the Panthers showing strong interest and maybe the Avs. I assume that if Florida, Huberdeau is the centrepiece. If Colorado, its O’Reilly. I’m not particularly sold that’s enough for Kessel…..but, they do need to move him or in other words remove him. I hate to see his influence on Nylander, Strome, Marner, or even McEichel should they get that lucky.
I think them trading down is just a dumb move. Wrong year to try should they win the lottery (side note, 2nd overall pick is all but impossible now). To do it somebody would have to seriously overpay. Like enough young pieces to make Edmonton an instant contender.
You are looking at:
Rielly, Holland, Reimer/Bernier, 4th overall pick, NSH 2015 1st
OEL, Reider, Visentin, 3rd overall pick, CHI 2015 1st
I would even argue that wouldn’t cut it. Think about what Lindros went for, if Edmonton doesn’t do better than don’t even consider it. That being said the Avalanche really did better with the trade so if you get that offer then by all means.
I disagree here, if Edmonton had the 2nd pick i’m sure they would move it for Rielly and the 4th or OEL and the 3rd.
At 3 or 4 they’re getting either Hanifin or Strome, a top pairing dman or a big 1st line center. Rielly is going to be a too pairing dman and OEL already is.
For Eichel? Sure, still a long shot but I can see it. I definitely wouldn’t move McDavid for that package though. But that is me.
Also for Edmonton to end up with the 2nd overall pick they would have to lose all of their games and Arizona would have to go 2-2-1 down the stretch, or have Arizona win their last 5 games and have Edmonton go 2-3-1 or anything in between. It isn’t going to happen.
Edmonton has to win the lottery to get a top 2 pick.
So if the Leafs win the lottery (9%, have you ever put your money down on the turn and rivered a flush? It happens) would anyone support a Lindros type package for Echiel?
McDavid and Echiel would be a dream pair that I’d be wiling to trade anything for, Rielly, Nylander, JVR, Kadri, Gardiner enough?
A lot of talk about the draft I think we are basically locks for one of Mcdavid, Hanifin, Strome or Marner. Marner/ Strome are obviously more likely.
Marner had 6 points last night and has 12 points in his last 3 games. Absolutely unreal. Seems like a Duchene type.
Quick comparison for Strome/ Marner in their draft years compared to previous high picks during their draft year to get an idea about what we might have for the future, it looks very promising:
Mitch Marner: 63 GP 44 goals 82 assists 126 points
Dylan Strome: 68 GP 45 goals 84 assists 129 points
Ryan Strome: 65 GP 33 goals 73 assists 106 points
Taylor Hall: 57 GP 40 goals 66 assists 106 points
Tyler Seguin: 63 GP 48 goals 58 assists 106 points
Matt Duchene: 57 GP 31 goals 48 assists 79 points
Ryan Johnasen:71 GP 25 goals 44 assists 69 points
Sean Monahan: 58 GP 33 goals 45 assists 78 points
Just a couple of quick points. Some are saying that Strome could be swooped up at number 3. Which would leave a choice between Hanifin and Marner. But who knows.
Agreed Marner looks to be terrific like Strome. Both look like can’t miss prospects. Meanwhile Hanifin is compared to Rob Blake.
Some exciting decisions ahead.
I don’t know, maybe the Oilers do draft Strome.
However, down the middle, they have Nugent-Hopkings, Draisatl, and Strome.
On defence? It is still very thin and poor outside Nurse.
Big win by Carolina this afternoon. Now 5 points ahead of the Leafs with 4 games left.
Boston is a bunch of incompetent fucks. There’s a team on the decline.
I think they could have been pretty close to a dynasty had they kept Seguin. A centre core of Seguin, Bergeron and Krejci would keep them very competitive every year.