Some big names could move in NHL off-season

Some big names could move in NHL off-season

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  1. leafmeister says:

    How good would that hypothetical Kessel for Monahan trade look right now?

  2. LN91 says:

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/24/toronto-maple-leafs-prospect-william-nylander-growing-his-game-in-the-hard-hitting-ahl/

    Nylander and Kadri are essentially the same player. Only difference, like I said a million times, one player wants it and works for it and the other wants it but expects it.

    • nordiques100 says:

      Does anyone see Nylander as a centre or a winger? I see him ending up being a winger but the Leafs see him as a centre. He could have a Steve Sullivan type career

      Though the Leafs will probably hope Nylander puts up more points, Sullivan had a decent NHL Career that included 1 70+ point season and over 1000 games played. Even if he can match his dad’s numbers at the very least that too wouldn’t be bad.

      • Gambo says:

        The Leafs requested the played him at center in Sweden, when he came to the Marlies he started as center but has switched to LW. They’ll most likely start him at wing in the NHL, but he could end up at center like Seguin/Giroux who started as RW.

        It also depends on the players they have available to them. But i’d bet on him being a winger.

  3. leafy says:

    The way the Leafs are going, there’s an outside chance that Edmonton or Phoenix will catch the Leafs in the standings.

    If that happens, Hanifin would be a possibility. He’s compared to Rob Blake. If he’s anywhere near Blake, need to draft Hanifin. But also happy with finishing 4th and drafting Strome.

    • LN91 says:

      As good as Hanifin is, I still think the pick has to be Strome over Hanifin.

      Toronto is a bottom feeder next year as well, and there are some good d-Men in that draft…But no Centres.

      Chychrun and Sean Day look to be a solid partner for Morgan

      • nordiques100 says:

        I agree. I feel defence is a crapshoot.

        Lets look at a guy like Larsson. He was like the next Lidstrom and is still looking to find his way.

        Or even Jones. He was a consensus no. 1 overall pick even at the mid year rankings. Fell to 4th.

        Even Hedman, only last year showed what he can do. After what, 3 seasons of development? I’d imagine a guy like Hanifin would need a lot of seasoning. (a lot for him being at least a year or 2)

        on the flip side there was Ekblad. I feel though the OHL prepares you for the NHL better than the college game. Ekblad has been incredible when you really see what he has been able to accomplish.

        And back a few years, Doughty and Pietrangelo certainly showed what they’re capable of immediately. On the flip side, Bogosian has lacked consistency and has emerged more as a stay at home Dman than a big time two way impact guy.

        And Schenn is more a 3rd pair Dman at best rather than an elite shut down guy/future captain as he was made out to be.

        I just think its a lot harder to find that big centre with skill and all the traits to be a no. 1 guy.

        Strome i think goes 3rd. But it depends on who is there at 3.

        Obviously McDavid/Eichel are 1-2, no matter who picks there.

        But say Phoenix is at 3? Do they go with Hanifin since they traded away Yandle and may be looking at replacing him? Or do they want the big scoring centre to be the future guy to be between Domi and Duclair?

        And Edmonton, they’ve long wanted a big top centre. Though they too need a top flight Dman, do they go with the forward or settle in on what many consider the consensus no. 3 with Hanifin. I see the Oilers not losing with either pick, but maybe they too pass on the D and go with Strome as well.

        Toronto like Edmonton can’t lose with either, but i would suspect they lean towards the centre. I think too a lot of that will be because Dubas and Hunter have seen him a lot. And I think he would have a quicker and equally long term impact than Hanifin. With Reilly, and Gardiner for that matter, the Leafs have more options on defence than forward. Yes, most teams draft “the best guy available” regardless of position, but in this case, i think all things being equal, Strome is the guy they select if they’re at 3.

        If they remain 4th, that will get interesting should Strome still go 3rd. Do they go with Hanifin…..or do they go with the Hunter fav, Mitch Marner? I think that will be a huge decision right there. Hunter obviously knows Marner more than any other prospect in the draft and the kid has been electric in the OHL. So it will be certainly a very interesting situation to watch.

        • doorman says:

          I here what you are saying based on the centre position, however I would rather draft the next Rob Blake then the next Eric Staal and I am from Thunder Bay, lol. Hanifin is just too good to pass up, IMO. That being said we have an outside shot at 2nd overall pick if you think about it. The Leafs are a complete disaster and my not win again this season( I hope,LOL). Arz has won 2 in a row and play Pitt (not playing well) and Buf by Monday two wins and they are only two points lower then the Leafs. Edm also could win a few. Jack Eichel would fix everything.

        • doorman says:

          Also listening to HUnters interview on Leafs Lunch, he likes Marner but he talked highly about several other prospects, especially Barzal who he flew out to see. I am more curious with what we do with Nashville’s 1st and what if anything Phaneuf, Kessel, Bozak can be possibly turned into.

        • LN91 says:

          Edmonton got Leon last year, huge center.

          • Gambo says:

            Yeah I think they’re better off with Nuge, Leon and Hanifin rather than Nuge, Strome, Leon.

          • nordiques100 says:

            I don’t think that matters to them. They were searching for a big centre via trade. I still think that’s what they’re going to look for.

            I agree, Hanifin makes sense, but the Oilers I don’t know. I feel they’re going to want a forward.

            • LN91 says:

              I think they want an experienced Center down the middle with size…How does having a Strome help the others? They need some mentors in Edmonton, they obviously have some talent.

              They need Hanifin way more, adding Strome will be continuing the mess.

  4. leafs_wallace93 says:

    When the Oilers win I’m like a dog wagging his tail upon seeing a leash.

    Only three points back…

  5. Gambo says:

    Love how so many people had wet feelings for Cody Franson when he played for Toronto.. He’s averaging like 12 mins a game for Nashville these past 7 games. He wasn’t ever anything more than a bottom pairing defenseman. So glad Toronto got rid of him before they signed him to a massive deal.

    What a steal we got from Nashville.

  6. 93killer93 says:

    They had some of the top draft prospects do a self evaluation. I really didn’t expect that answer from McDavid.

    1. Connor McDavid, C, Erie Otters (OHL)

    2014-15: 47 games, 44-76-120, 48 PIM, plus-60 rating, 9 power-play goals

    Height/weight: 6-foot-1, 195 pounds

    Who is the NHL player your play would most likely be compared to:
    “Tyler Bozak because he is a good skater and is more of a pass-first type of guy.”

  7. Steven_Leafs0 says:

    Ah screw you Kessel, we don’t need any more points especially with Edmonton right behind us.

    Boooooo.

  8. leafy says:

    Ottawa blows a 2 goal lead in a game when they could have done the Leafs a big favor by winning. I hate that fucking team with a passion.

  9. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Bozak does his best Boyd Devereaux, faaaaaaahhhk

  10. doorman says:

    All i can say is WTF was that?

  11. LN91 says:

    All the Leafs need…Is for the standings to end like they are today (which might be likely) and either the Leafs, Coyotes, or Sabres to win the draft.

    As much as Nords does not think so, the Oilers will most likely draft Hanifin.

    They have options at C in the future, they have none at D outside of Nurse.

  12. leafy says:

    Sabres vs Coyotes tonight. Battle of the shits.

  13. nordiques100 says:

    I like Hanifin as much as the next guy, but Don Cherry is somewhat right. I think the Leafs if they had the choice between Strome or Hanifin, they have to take Strome.

    A guy who has a chance to be a top player, who is actually from around here, that is a win-win situation if you ask me.

    They obviously need both a C and a D, but getting Strome would be a huge coup.

  14. nordiques100 says:

    And yet another useless win last night.

    If they had only lost the last 2, the Oilers would have been 1 point behind, not 5.

    I’ve resided to the fact the Leafs will be 4th or 5th. Its a shame really.

    But, I get the feeling that if McDavid, Eichel and Strome go 1-2-3, I think the Leafs will select Marner 4th overall. I don’t know if they can pass on him either being another Ontario kid, being a London Knight where Hunter worked/owns and having that kind of skill.

    I know Hanifin is very appealing, but I just don’t think Marner will be passed on.

    • LN91 says:

      Maybe the Oilers do pick Strome, however, once again, this franchise will be making the wrong pic which is why they are the only rebuilding team in history to fail at completing it.

      You can stick 12 talented forwards on the ice, but if you do not have defence…You are not winning anything.

      Look at Philly right now.

      Now, if they want to possibly win a cup one day…Hanifin would have to be the choice.

      • nordiques100 says:

        All i can say is that if the Leafs have a choice, its Strome, Marner then Hanifin.

        I really doubt Hanifin gets selected over those two.

        • doorman says:

          You are probably right and worst thing is it could be the wrong call. All scouting agencies and polled scouts by the insiders have Hanifin at 3rd all year. I know I am in the minority but I think they should take him American or not always BPA, right?

          Cherry as much as I like him would say the Leafs should take Marner or Strome over Eichel based on being talented local kids as well, I think, lol

          • nordiques100 says:

            Well they can’t go wrong with any of those 3.

            Skill skill skill. thats the big thing now for the Leafs.

            • leafs_wallace93 says:

              Boston built a contender and won a cup while trading away top five picks like Seguin and Kessel.

              You can make the wrong choice, Nylanders, Kadris, Marners, Kessels, can pad stats but a less than useless in playoff runs.

              • nordiques100 says:

                The Bruins have sucked balls since they traded Seguin.

                They were better with him.

                • leafs_wallace93 says:

                  Seguin is a sexy long term piece but point is two finals and a cup because they built a team not looked for a savoir.

                  No like Dallas is doing well with Seguin, they’re at least four years away from being good.

                  • LN91 says:

                    However, that is not Seguin’s fault for the problems in Dallas. He has been incredible.

                    Dallas has a thin defence and could use some better depth players. I hope they use this offseason to find them as they could be a great team.

  15. LN91 says:

    So, thank god the Sabres won yesterday as the Leafs still have a chance at 4th last. Carolina is 3 points up with 3 games in hand and an easier schedule. Let’s hope for the best.

    Also, everyone can be upset about a few wins recently, but let’s be real here. The Leafs had to go 10-34-3 to be in this position and that is no easy task.

    • nordiques100 says:

      Interesting story about the Oilers maybe trading down.

      I seriously doubt that will happen. If they end up 2nd or 1st overall, they’re taking McEichel. They will not be trading down.

      That being said, yes, I agree 50 percent that they do need Hanifin. That team needs a lot though. Either way, they’re going to add to a talented young group.

      But, will they make a trade moving one of their younger players up front? Is Hall on the block? Eberle? I am curious to see what they do.

      What they do would impact the Leafs who also have a skilled winger like Kessel available.

      Speaking of Kessel, there is still a lot of talk of the Panthers showing strong interest and maybe the Avs. I assume that if Florida, Huberdeau is the centrepiece. If Colorado, its O’Reilly. I’m not particularly sold that’s enough for Kessel…..but, they do need to move him or in other words remove him. I hate to see his influence on Nylander, Strome, Marner, or even McEichel should they get that lucky.

      • Steven_Leafs0 says:

        I think them trading down is just a dumb move. Wrong year to try should they win the lottery (side note, 2nd overall pick is all but impossible now). To do it somebody would have to seriously overpay. Like enough young pieces to make Edmonton an instant contender.

        You are looking at:

        Rielly, Holland, Reimer/Bernier, 4th overall pick, NSH 2015 1st

        OEL, Reider, Visentin, 3rd overall pick, CHI 2015 1st

        I would even argue that wouldn’t cut it. Think about what Lindros went for, if Edmonton doesn’t do better than don’t even consider it. That being said the Avalanche really did better with the trade so if you get that offer then by all means.

        • Gambo says:

          I disagree here, if Edmonton had the 2nd pick i’m sure they would move it for Rielly and the 4th or OEL and the 3rd.

          At 3 or 4 they’re getting either Hanifin or Strome, a top pairing dman or a big 1st line center. Rielly is going to be a too pairing dman and OEL already is.

          • Steven_Leafs0 says:

            For Eichel? Sure, still a long shot but I can see it. I definitely wouldn’t move McDavid for that package though. But that is me.

            Also for Edmonton to end up with the 2nd overall pick they would have to lose all of their games and Arizona would have to go 2-2-1 down the stretch, or have Arizona win their last 5 games and have Edmonton go 2-3-1 or anything in between. It isn’t going to happen.

            Edmonton has to win the lottery to get a top 2 pick.

  16. leafs_wallace93 says:

    So if the Leafs win the lottery (9%, have you ever put your money down on the turn and rivered a flush? It happens) would anyone support a Lindros type package for Echiel?

    McDavid and Echiel would be a dream pair that I’d be wiling to trade anything for, Rielly, Nylander, JVR, Kadri, Gardiner enough?

  17. TmLeafan says:

    A lot of talk about the draft I think we are basically locks for one of Mcdavid, Hanifin, Strome or Marner. Marner/ Strome are obviously more likely.

    Marner had 6 points last night and has 12 points in his last 3 games. Absolutely unreal. Seems like a Duchene type.

    Quick comparison for Strome/ Marner in their draft years compared to previous high picks during their draft year to get an idea about what we might have for the future, it looks very promising:

    Mitch Marner: 63 GP 44 goals 82 assists 126 points
    Dylan Strome: 68 GP 45 goals 84 assists 129 points

    Ryan Strome: 65 GP 33 goals 73 assists 106 points
    Taylor Hall: 57 GP 40 goals 66 assists 106 points
    Tyler Seguin: 63 GP 48 goals 58 assists 106 points
    Matt Duchene: 57 GP 31 goals 48 assists 79 points
    Ryan Johnasen:71 GP 25 goals 44 assists 69 points
    Sean Monahan: 58 GP 33 goals 45 assists 78 points

    • leafy says:

      Just a couple of quick points. Some are saying that Strome could be swooped up at number 3. Which would leave a choice between Hanifin and Marner. But who knows.

      Agreed Marner looks to be terrific like Strome. Both look like can’t miss prospects. Meanwhile Hanifin is compared to Rob Blake.

      Some exciting decisions ahead.

      • LN91 says:

        I don’t know, maybe the Oilers do draft Strome.

        However, down the middle, they have Nugent-Hopkings, Draisatl, and Strome.

        On defence? It is still very thin and poor outside Nurse.

  18. leafy says:

    Big win by Carolina this afternoon. Now 5 points ahead of the Leafs with 4 games left.

  19. leafy says:

    Boston is a bunch of incompetent fucks. There’s a team on the decline.

    • leafmeister says:

      I think they could have been pretty close to a dynasty had they kept Seguin. A centre core of Seguin, Bergeron and Krejci would keep them very competitive every year.

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