BRUCE GARRIOCH Identifies each teams needs and what is available

Let the shopping begin.

With the NHL trade deadline set for Feb. 28 at 3 p.m., many of the league’s 30 GMs are still trying to figure out whether they’re going to be buyers or sellers.

At last year’s deadline, there were 31 deals involving 55 players.

It would be hard to believe that is going to happen again.
Anaheim Ducks — Buyers

NEEDS: They were able to add a top-four defenceman by bringing back Francois Beauchemin from Toronto. May add depth winger.

THEY’D MOVE: LW Jason Blake, D Andreas Lilja, D Paul Mara, C Todd Marchant.

Boston Bruins — Buyers

NEEDS: Now that they’ve lost C Marc Savard (post-concussion syndrome) for the season, they’ll seek depth up front. Want to add a puck-moving blueliner.

THEY’D MOVE: D Andrew Ference, D Mark Stuart, W Blake Wheeler.

Buffalo Sabres — Sellers

NEEDS: With a new owner coming in, GM Darcy Regier is on a short leash. Won’t do much more than deal for picks.

BEING SHOPPED: C Tim Connolly, RW Mike Grier, C Jochen Hecht, C Rob Niedermayer, D Craig Rivet.

Calgary Flames — On the fence

NEEDS: Jay Feaster’s tenure as interim GM has been under-whelming. Apparently, the Flames are much happier, but he’s done nothing in terms of moves.

IF THEY SELL: D Jay Bouwmeester, LW Curtis Glencross, C Olli Jokinen.

Carolina Hurricanes — On the fence

NEEDS: GM Jim Rutherford hasn’t decided if he’s a buyer or seller. The ’Canes wanted to get younger until they caught up to Thrashers in race.

IF THEY SELL: RW Erik Cole, RW Chad Larose, D Joni Pitkanen.

Chicago Blackhawks — Buyers

NEEDS: They don’t have much cash and made all of their moves after winning the Cup. Added forward Michael Frolik last week in a deal with Florida. Goaltending a bit suspect.

THEY’D MOVE: D Nick Boynton.

Columbus Blue Jackets — Sellers

NEEDS: They’ve been looking for a puck-moving D for two years. The clock is ticking on GM Scott Howson.

BEING SHOPPED: C Derrick Brassard, G Steve Mason, D Fedor Tyutin, D Jan Hejda.

Dallas Stars — Buyers

NEEDS: They have the biggest chip with pending UFA C Brad Richards, but he likely won’t be moved. If the bankers running the team clear the money, expect the Stars to get a blueliner.

THEY’D MOVE: C Mike Ribiero.

Detroit Red Wings — Buyers

NEEDS: Part of the reason the Wings have remained successful is they don’t panic. They signed G Evgeni Nabokov only to lose him on waivers to the Islanders.

THEY’D MOVE: RW Patrick Eaves, D Ruslan Salei.

Edmonton Oilers — Sellers

NEEDS: The Oilers are in full rebuild mode. They won’t be seeking anything more than draft picks.

BEING SHOPPED: RW Dustin Penner, D Ladislav Smid, C Shawn Horcoff.

Florida Panthers — Sellers

NEEDS: GM Dale Tallon has been tasked with rebuilding this team from top to bottom.

BEING SHOPPED: RW Radek Dvorak, LW Rostislav Olesz, LW Chris Higgins, D Bryan McCabe, LW Cory Stillman, G Tomas Vokoun.

Los Angeles Kings — Buyers

NEEDS: They want to add scoring up front. They’d like a big-name player. Failed to land Marian Gaborik from the Rangers.

THEY’D MOVE: C Michal Handzus, LW Alexi Ponikarovsky.

Minnesota Wild — On the fence

NEEDS: Would like to add a winger to play with Mikko Koivu if they stay in playoff race. If Wild falls out, will unload pending UFAs.

IF THEY SELL: LW Andrew Brunette, C John Madden, RW Chuck Kobasew, RW Antti Mietinen, G Jose Theodore.

Montreal Canadiens — Buyers

NEEDS: Looking to add blue-line help and size up front. They’ll certainly look at Ottawa D Chris Phillips.

THEY’D MOVE: C Scott Gomez, LW Andrei Kostitsyn, D Yannick Weber.

Nashville Predators — Buyers

NEEDS: Already added their big piece by picking up Ottawa C Mike Fisher without taking anyone off the roster. Need to keep re-sign pending UFA D Shea Weber.

THEY’D MOVE: RW J.P. Dumont.

New Jersey Devils — Sellers

NEEDS: Someone to play with Ilya Kovalchuk for the next decade or so. A replacement for Martin Brodeur when he retires.

BEING SHOPPED: C Jason Arnott, D Colin White, LW Brian Rolston, C Dainius Zubrus.

New York Islanders — Sellers

NEEDS: You name it, they want it. GM Garth Snow’s hands tied by the fact he can’t spend any money. They’ll just try to unload.

BEING SHOPPED: D Radek Martinek, D Milan Jurcina, C Zenon Konopka, C Doug Weight.

New York Rangers — Buyers

NEEDS: If they’re going to do anything in the post-season, they need a QB for the power play. Will likely make a pitch for Blues D Eric Brewer.

THEY’D MOVE: D Matt Gilroy, C Todd White, D Michael Del Zotto.

Ottawa Senators — Sellers

NEEDS: Goalie is the No. 1 priority. Won’t get it here.

BEING SHOPPED: D Chris Campoli, D Sergei Gonchar, C Chris Kelly, RW Alex Kovalev, D Filip Kuba, D Chris Phillips, C Peter Regin, LW Jarrko Ruutu.

Philadelphia Flyers — Buyers

NEEDS: The Flyers might bring in a goalie for insurance or a depth forward like Carolina’s Erik Cole. Not a lot of cap space.

THEY’D MOVE: RW Nikolai Zherdev.

Phoenix Coyotes — On the fence

NEEDS: They were one of the most active teams at the deadline last season.

IF THEY SELL: D Adrian Aucoin, RW Lee Stempniak, RW Radim Vrbata.

Pittsburgh Penguins — Buyers

NEEDS: The loss of C Evgeni Malkin and the uncertainty of the Sidney Crosby situation means the Pens will go shopping for a scoring forward.

THEY’D MOVE: RW Aaron Asham, C Michael Rupp.

San Jose Sharks — Buyers

NEEDS: GM Doug Wilson likes to stick his nose into every deal out there. Really needs a defenceman.

THEY’D MOVE: RW Devon Setoguchi, D Niclas Wallin.

St. Louis Blues — Sellers

NEEDS: The Blues have fallen off the map again this season and need to get more scoring. They have money issues, but financing is supposed to be close.

BEING SHOPPED: D Eric Brewer, C Brad Boyes, D Erik Johnson.

Tampa Bay Lightning — Buyers

NEEDS: Bolts GM Steve Yzerman wants to add a quarterback for the power play. Yzerman won’t deal top draft picks.

THEY’D MOVE: LW Simon Gagne, G Dan Ellis, G Mike Smith.

Toronto Maple Leafs — Sellers

NEEDS: They were able to get a scoring forward in Joffrey Lupul, but want more. Phil Kessel hasn’t worked out so far.

BEING SHOPPED: G J.S. Giguere, D Tomas Kaberle, D Mike Komisarek, RW Kris Versteeg.

Vancouver Canucks — Buyers

NEEDS: GM Mike Gillis may add some depth up front. Have some injuries suddenly on defence.

THEY’D MOVE: Nobody. Don’t need to make changes.

Washington Capitals — Buyers

NEEDS: GM George McPhee hasn’t shown a great ability to moves. Many believe he still needs a goalie and centre.

THEY’D MOVE: D Scott Hannan, C Matt Hendricks.

96 Responses to BRUCE GARRIOCH Identifies each teams needs and what is available

  1. cam7777 says:

    Me too, but there is a big difference between the BOS/MTL brawl, and the PIT/NYI brawl.  The Islanders were out to hurt, and were trying to engage guys as they were skating away.  There were some very Bertuzzi-esque moments in there.  Kind of scary.  I love Godard running to Johnson's rescure though.

  2. palindrom says:

    Ak contract expire this summer, he will be RFA, so any team acquiring him can give him contract according to their need. Its not like he had a bad contract. He his the best hitter on our team right now.

    Kaberle worth far more than winiewsji, but AK and Weber worth far more than a 2nd rounder.

  3. palindrom says:

    but at the same time it would take out a desirable destination for kaberle.

    it doesnt really affect the value of kaberle when a defensemen is moved, but it show that the team preferred another option than to acquire kaberle (at the asking price).

    Anaheim preferred Beauchemin than kaberle
    Canadien prefered to acquire Winieski for a 2nd  than trading for Kaberle.
    Tampa bay prefered to Sign M-A bergeron than giving something for Kaberle.

  4. palindrom says:

    We dont miss markov? its not because we are winning than we dont miss him.

    Our team is so much better with markov and we miss it a lot!

  5. wayne2 says:


    A)he would come cheaper probably
    B)dont underestimate Phillips,he steps up his game in the playoffs and has valuable experience.
    C)shows leadership.

    People are too much focused on this years senators.Dont forget thse players are for most of them having a bad year,most of the team are.

    Rutuu would serve the canucks well too.

    I hope the canucks bring back the cup to Canada against all of Betman's wishes.

  6. nordiques100 says:

    You at all times have to protect the goalie.

    He knew it too. screw the 10 games, i don't play 3 minutes a game anyhow, i have to do something.

    And besides, he'll be back anyways in time for the rematch in April.

    this is the only only only time the Pens can be thankful that Malkin and Crosby were both out.

  7. leafmeister says:

    What about the talk of JVR? Adding him would be a huge coup. I would usually be careful with Versteeg, cause their is no need to move him, but if they could grab a 21 year old, 6'3 power forward who has top line potential, Burke would have to make the move. Do you think that same trade could happen over the summer?

  8. DannyLeafs says:

    I think he is so irrate simply because anyone can see that when you compare what Goddard did in that game to what Gilles did in that game, 99% of people would agree that Gilles went way over the line and was a complete black eye on the league, where Godard broke a rule, but did it for a sensible reason, yet Godard gets the bigger suspension.

    Makes no sense. Sure I understand that the 10 games was automatic, but that simply should have made it easier to go "hey how about we toss Giles out for 20!"

    I mean Giles is a disgusting waste of skin. The fact that he went back to the edge of the rink to start taunting a kid whom he just gave a concussion is bad enough, but the fact that he was rational enough to not step back onto the ice and get a bigger suspension just makes it worse. He can't possibly claim it was a heat of the moment thing, not when he had the sense to stay off the ice. He might as well have been taunting campbell with his actions, saying "hey you can't suspend me cause I'm standing behind this line you dweeb."

    As much as I agree with the sentiment that Lemieux is being hypocritical since he hasn't said anything about that waste of skin they have on their own team, I can completely see why he is so irrate. I mean we can all say what we want, but the fact is we are fans, so is Lemieux, and we don't get nearly as offended by these types of actions as we do when they happen against our favourite teams. Lemieux is being a hypocrite, but no more than the majority of us would be in the same situation, but he is just more famous.

    I still can't get over that Goddard gets an extra game for being a good team guy, while Gilles gets one less for being complete s*****. Just disgusting.

  9. nordiques100 says:

    I shudder at the thought of Komisarek and Lebda both in the top 6 with 2 other rookies.

    I am a Gunnarsson fan. He has played well. Its just that when he makes one mistake, Wilson benches him. Its a blow to the confidence and then he starts to look bad. I also feel he has more value than a 3rd line forward. Brouwer is ok, but a dime a dozen player. Rather sign the likes of Laich, Scott Upshall, Joel Ward, Ryan Jones or whomever than trade 2 under 25s for Brouwer. We could do better if we packaged those 2 youngsters.

    I am also a Giguere fan and prefer to keep him. I think he has tons of value to the Leafs and he'd stay for way less money. I think he'd get into at least 30 games with an obvious chance for more. He is a real leader for this team and i like him mentoring all those young kids for another year or so. I am not sure Colorado has interest or that he has that kind of value in trade due to his current salary. I believe he'd be due another 1.6 mil to the team acquiring him so some of the contenders will need that kind of cap space. That is a ton for just a 1/4 of the season.

    Kaberle is the most interesting case around. Its him and Phillips. Who'd you rather have? Obviously the answer is a no brainer. But, of course if you have a group of finesse players on D, Phillips may be preferable.

    It seems he too may be the easier of the two to move. He is less inflexible when it comes to leaving Ottawa. But, with a NTC, he will control his destination. I think he is ok though with being a rental. I am not sure about Kaberle. I think he wants to be traded to the team that will for sure sign him long term.

    Again, my preference is to keep Kaberle. But BB is going to have to man up and make a decision here. The last resort is losing him for nothing July 1st and to me that's not or should not be an option.

    But BB has let this situation fester and twist in the wind. Its mismanagement. He has 2 weeks to do something. Otherwise, he should re-sign this guy.

    Would he command $5 mil? sure he would. Would he take less to stay? unsure. I think he would if Wilson were gone. But my gut feeling is that Burke would trade Messier, Gretzky and Orr in their prime rather than Fire Wilson.

    He bit the bullet and traded Beau, a huge favorite of his and that was surprising. It was the first case in a long while where the leafs traded a player before their value declined.

    I think he's going to need to bite another bullet and get rid of Komisarek. if he isnt going to fire the coach who's playing Komisarek half the time of a rookie in Keith Aulie, why bother keeping him?

    Sadly, i think that is unrealistic, bordering on fantasy. Komi's value is zilch. But i dont like such a slow, plodding D. They're definitely going to need to find someone who can make a 1st pass on defence and carry the puck out with some mobility. I am all in favor of buying him out.

    As for Versteeg, I dont know why there seems to be such a need to move him. Unless his value is really high now thanks to his playoff experience.

    He'd be pretty valuable to a contender. But i still think he'd be ok as a Leaf.

    I wonder if BB is trying to make him the centrepiece in a deal for Brayden Schenn.

    Its not like Versteeg is old. he's only 24 and would help LA for a while. I dont know what kind of package it would take to pry Schenn out of LA but i think that would be a great fit. Perhaps even Versteeg and Bozak to get Schenn and another player, maybe Kyle Clifford.

    If Kaberle would waive to go there, maybe he's part of the deal too. As Kessel was BB's fixated target, I think his next one is Brayden Schenn.

  10. DannyLeafs says:

    People don't say Kaberle is a great offensive D-man to convince people that he is, they say it because it's a fact. I agree that the Leafs have a terrible PP, but the fact they aren't last in the league despite the fact that no D-man has scored on the PP this year is all because of how good Kaberle has been able to distribute the puck.

    Kaberle is 8th in the league in Defensemen scoring. This is likely to be his 4th 50+ point season and 7th 40+ point season. Since this would only be the 8th time in his career he has played 70 or more games if he does go the reaminder of the season un-injured, I would say those are pretty great numbers.

    Also, if I am not mistaken, Kaberle is 2nd in points amoung all players drafted in 1996, and is only 58 points behind Briere for the Lead.

    You can make the argument that Kaberle isn't a great defensemen, or that he wouldn't bring a ton of value to your team, or whatever hypothetical scenariou you want. But there is no arguing whether or not he is a great offensive defensemen, as that is a fact proven simply by looking at his stats and track record.

  11. reinjosh says:

    Don't bother trying to argue with HRF. He's a troll. Kaberle is again top 12 in dman scoring, and to 10 in dman PP scoring.. The numbers speak for themselves.

  12. HABSSTAR says:

    If PG could get him for AK, Weber and a first or conditional pick then I'd be interested.  Like you said though I wouldn't be interested if it cost Max Pac or Leblanc which I kind of assumed the Oilers would be wanting back for Penner. 

    It's interesting you say that about the Kessel trade because I look at it from the opposite side based on the same trade.  Montreal has had a lot of injuries to key players this year and has managed to hold it together.  But looking at that team we're one injury to Price away from being a lottery pick, and knowing the Habs luck it would be the year that we trade our first rounder away that Price would go down.  At the trade deadline if we're in a playoff spot and the Oilers would take AK, Weber and this year's first for Penner I would do it.  I don't think there's many Habs fans who wouldn't.  I'm not convinced however that the Oilers would do that.  

  13. Leafs_the_word says:

    Scarcity effects value.

    Are you really suggesting that if Burke offered Kaberle to Anahiem straight up Anahiem would nix that deal???

    Ditto for the over suggestions.

  14. Leafs_the_word says:

    And Vancouver's PP is deadly, they have zero need for Kaberle, they're not a potential suitor for Kaberle.

  15. Leafs_the_word says:

    A) That's my point, I don't get why people are suggesting that Phillips will cost more

    B) 2nd pairing defense, antiquated thinking to overall value these players

    C) Leadership only matters in Disney hockey movies

    I can't wait to see the Canucks get bounced in the second round.

  16. reinjosh says:

    They have no need for Kaberle but I wouldn't say they don't have anything that the Leafs are not interested in. I would be interested in Pacioretty and Subban. However I would say they have nothing of interest that they would be willing to give up so the point about dealing with them has little bearing.

  17. reinjosh says:

    Fair enough. I'm just not as sold on the value of first rounders as others are, so it stems from that as well.

    But yeah I agree, I'm not sure the Oilers would do that either.

  18. reinjosh says:

    To be honest, I would prefer Kadri played more so as to not be a rookie next season. Its just more unnecessary pressure in my opinion.

  19. lafleur10 says:

    HABSSTAR i'd love it if some how we could land penner from the oilers just imagine penner,plekanec,cammalleri on a line that would be a scary line! that is the type of player we need big,physical and can score ,we'd then have 2 guys like that on each line with pacioretty,and penner i would almost offer them a.kost 1st r.d pick this year weberand see if they'd take it if not i'd see what else they would nned to get the deal done i would give another small piece as long as it's not leblanc or tinordi ! it's almost to bad that we didn't still have halak as i'm sure he'd be enough to land penner ,plus it would solve edmonton's goaltending need! if we had to add ellar to theis package i would do it but i'd take back steve mcintyre in that deal as well ! he's a real mean ombre and he's a true heavyweight fighter that were sorry lacking

  20. reinjosh says:

    I agree with Nords on the first trade. Trading for Brouwer is unnecessary. We've gone this long without that type of presence, we can wait till the summer to sing a very similar player. I still have faith in Gunnarson, he hasn't played terribly. Plus trading him now would leave us with only one of top 3 PKers of the season.

    Giggy trade sure. Stoa is a young asset and getting more of those is a plus. I'm not sure I Want to resign him or not but I wouldn't count out a Doug Weight situation. He gets a shot at another cup but fully will resign here if he wants. His career might not go on for long anyways so maybe he retires and takes a goalie coach position.

    I believe Kaberle is worth more too but I'm good with that value. I've always been a fan of Kreider and the 1nd is decent enough. Kreider fits a huge need in our system so its a win for us.

    If Versteeg gets moved, its in a upgrade type thing. As you said it doesn't make sense to take picks/prospects and it doesn't make sense to take less than Burke paid for him. I doubt he gets moved if he makes it to the summer though.

  21. TheOnlyIslesFan says:

    What is the "system" that the Leafs play anyway? I keep hearing about how the system doesn't work. Is the system what I think it is from the few Leaf games I've seen them play this year – Wilson juggles the lines, the players dump the puck, they then allow 5 breakaways per game and if they somehow luck out and score more goals then the other team they win? 

    I do like what Burke has put together in Toronto for a team – they have the potential in a few years to compete Reimer looks like he could be a good second tier goalie in this league and Schenn will be a beast – but up front the problems are still evident, Kessel is streaky and if you're a believer in God I imagine you pray every night that Wilson will put that one line back together that plays well and that Grabovski and McArthur aren't having their career season and then fall back to earth next year.
    The Ducks looked at Lupul as what he is – damaged goods hopefully that time away did help him heal completely and he can return to a 25-30 goal scorer.
    For the record, my first day on HTR doesn't look like there's any other Isles fans huh?
  22. reinjosh says:

    I think there is one other Isles fan but he very rarely comments. Welcome to the boards.

    Personally I don't think Grabo is playing above his head. His rookie season he scored 48. He was on pace for close to that last season but was injured. He has the talent and now the drive to play like he is for extended periods of time. MacArthur I would agree, I hope he doesn't fall back to earth.

  23. nordiques100 says:

    Campbell works in NY. He has since the early 90s late 80s.

    If he is going to want a Job with an NHL team, its going to be one of the NY teams he'd probably prefer.

    Why not give less games to the team that may hire you to run their hockey dept.

    Certainly Garth Snow's job isnt completely safe. One day he'll get fired. What a chance then for Campbell to get the job as GM.

    Wang will likely be owner then still.

    Sorry after that crap where Campbell got a ref fired for giving his son the business, i have to believe he has an agenda all to himself.

  24. Leafs_the_word says:

    Finally someone that can offer a reality check when we make Tavares to the Leafs trade proposals.

  25. reinjosh says:

    Burke admitted that he and Pierre Gauthier have had trade discussions.

  26. reinjosh says:

    Peter Forsberg is going to retire…Again. Lol

  27. hockey_lover says:

    What the?  I dont believe it.  I totally thought he was going to play every game for the rest of the season and playoffs.

  28. DannyLeafs says:

    Maybe Burke has been the remedy to the curse, thus far most of the players he has moved out have been disappointing. Stempniak was the exception, although part of that was how long expectations were due to him being a former leaf. He was really playing OK for the Leafs, on pace for a 20 goal 40pt season as a third liner. Not so bad really. Looking the the other players Burke moved out, it almost looked as if he knew the wheels were coming off for some of them.

    Stajan, Ponikarovsky, Hagman and White all either had a career year the one  before they were moved, or were in the midst of one. All have been pretty disappointing since.

    Blake and Toskala certainly didn't turn things around.

    Stahlberg got a lot of hype in T.O., but I he hasn't exploded like many people thought he would either.

    Hell, so far we can say that Seguin has been somewhat of a disappointment thus far. Not because he isn't a good player, but compared to some other picks in that draft he has struggled this year. Fowler, Skinner, and Hall are all vastly out performing Seguin in the NHL. Skinner and Fowler are actually valued contributors to teams that look to be playoff bound.

    I am not trying to say that Seguin will be a bust, because I don't think that is the case at all, just pointing out that so far, Burke hasn't exactly traded away anyone that is killing us to watch flourish with another team. Which is somewhat funny considering the flak he gets from fans and analysts for being so called "raped" in all of these deals (yes I know, time will tell on the Kessel deal, but as of right now there is no big time contributor that is killing us there either), he hasn't made a trade where a player he gave up is giving us nightmares.

    Also, I want to know some Boston fans opinions on the way Seguin has been handled. Personally I don't like they way things are going for him. I think he should have been playing an extra year of Junior this year, and should have been given the chance to go back to the World Jr.'s and make the team. He could have gained very valuable experience in that tournament, and could have really developed his offensive instincts. Instead he is in the NHL playing 12 minutes a game, and isn't getting put in great offensive situations. He has been a healthy scratch 3 or 4 times, and gets benched on occasion. I just think it's a very rough way to treat a young player like him, especially one such as Seguin. Seguin isn't as natural an offensive talent as some other players drafted as high as he was, as he wasn't really expected to make the kind of developmental leap that he did. He wasn't being talked about as a potential top 5 pick before last year's OHL season, and kind of came out of nowhwere. I know he was a good player before that, but I just don't think it's a great idea to take a player who had that kind of offensive explosion, and not continue to let him develop. Yes I agree with starting him in the NHL, but he struggled very early, and they should have sent him back to junior (well at least in my opinion they should have), and they should have at least lent him to Canada for the WJC to gain some experience and see if that didn't help get him back on track. I just think Boston runs the risk of turning a guy with Number one center potential into a career 2/3rd guy if they aren't careful. Sure he could turn out great despite the low ice time and reduced role, but what is the rationale behind taking that chance?

  29. reinjosh says:

    I agree with your analysis on the handling of Seguin. I'm not sure it was the smartest move doing what they have done so far. I haven't been very impressed lately with the way they have handled rookies. Scratching Kampfer when he invited 50 of his closest friends and family to a game? Come on.

  30. LeafsFTW17 says:

    he porbably would have. I'm guessing he thinks that the avs aren't going to make the playoffs so he figures there is no point in playing.

  31. Bure96 says:

    Mike Gillis will not overpay for a trade deadline rental. He's not that type of a GM, he's too conservative. Even the Keith Ballard trade he was picking up a guy with 4 years left on his deal, and really didn't give up anyone substantial (Grabner has blossomed in NYI, but no way would he play in Vancouver's top 6).

    What's Chris Phillips value? Somebody else said he might becoming to Vancouver, but I wouldn't pick him up for more then a 3rd rounder. AI think somebody else will bite for a 2nd rounder, so I doubt he's coming this way. I just don't think he's an improvement over Alberts or Rome really, so what's the point? Vancouver has tons of depth (they've have as many as 10 guys that can handle NHL minutes), but they are mostly just hurting at the top of the depth chart with Hamhuis, Ballard and Edler hurt.

    I think they'll for sure upgrade the 4th line center position, but otherwise they'll be quiet.

  32. hockey_lover says:

    Im guessing that he realized that his foot still sucks, he's actually 37 and not 20, and the game has passed him by

  33. Leafs_the_word says:

    The guy who offered 20 millions to an veteran Mats Sundin and gave a prospect and 1st round pick for a 5th defenseman in Ballard (I'm being generous, he's more like 7th) isn't going to over pay because he's too conversative?

    Mmmm kay.

  34. hockey_lover says:

    Maybe they might bring in Phillips to replace Salo ..cause at some point, that experiment has got to end. He's the western conference version of Andrei Markov .. tons of talent but a body made of fine china. The guy has missed an average of what … 25 games a season every year for the last 7 years. He's 36 so he isnt getting any younger either.

    Phillips isnt an upgrade and isnt much of downgrade. He's 4 years younger, makes around the same money, much less offensively talented, equal-ish defensively and .. most of all .. only missed a couple of games a year.

    Now Im not saying the Canucks should or should not get Phillips. Im just saying, if they are trying to, its not the craziest thing in the world.

  35. LeafsFTW17 says:

    Kris Versteeg trade to philly for a 1st and another pick.

  36. Leafs_the_word says:

    The thing is this is the Canucks window, they're firing on all cylinders, this isn't the year to be conservative.

  37. hockey_lover says:

    Oh for sure. I think they are amazing thus far. Two things have to happen:  their defense, which is notoriously known to get injured, has to stay healthy .. and Luongo has to "win when it counts." Thus far, he has proven to be a chump when its all on the line.   TWO years in a row, he has come out and guarantee a win against chicago and both times, he's gotten egg on his face. At the olympics, they wont in spite of him, not because of him.  Dont get me wrong .. he is an awesome goaltender but he hasnt shown he can win when its all on the line. Much like Curtis Joseph. No one can deny that he was a fantastic goalie but yet .. couldnt win the big pressure games.

    All in all, I think Vancouver has an amazing shot at the cup and I dont think getting Phillips, especially with their current injuries, is a bad thing and I think would only help them.

  38. LeafsFTW17 says:

    yeah what a bad trade eh? I always thought that was a bad one.

  39. clbruins says:

    im a bruins fan and i agree 100% percent with wahat u are saying it makes me sick… he gets no ice time and when he do manage to get some they put him on the fourth line sometimes third thers no way hes goin to learn when hes playing with 4th liners…but on the other side he really do need to work on his defensive play so maybe they want him to learn that first??..but i agree they should of left him in the minors for another year especially if there not goin to play him it just dont make sense to me. but i garentee toronto got the worst of the deal seguin is goin to be a really good top 6 forward in a year or 2 and id say he will be a top 3 in 3 years…kessel needs too much talent around him to shine wich cost alot of money.

  40. HABSSTAR says:

    Wrong!  He's about to buy a car and didn't want to finance it so he played a game and can now pay cash for the car. lol

  41. Bure96 says:

    20 million over 2 years to Mats when his team was 12 million under the salary cap .. why not ? It's just a 2 year commitment. If you look at pending contracts for Vancouver the following off season it actually made sense. They needed a leader, and Mats is a major reason why Ryan Kesler is the player he is today.

    Keith Ballard a 7th defensemen? What's Mike Komisarek then .. a Marlies bench warmer? Your just being dumb. Keith Ballard is having an underwhelming year, but that can be contributed to be sort of the odd man out (Ehrhoff with Edler, Hamhuis with Bieksa) which leaves Ballard with the weakest link (between Alberts/Rome). He's been injured too. He's a 27 year old who's proven before that he's a top 4 defensemen .. If you say otherwise then that's total bullshit. The guys having an off year .. big deal. The Canucks top 4 d is very good too, so I wouldn't be too concerned that he isn't getting top 4 minutes.

    BTW Gillis traded a late 1st, a hit or miss prospect with no chance of ever having an impact in Vancouver, and a total failure of a player Bernier (who's value was pretty much negative) .. I don't see how thats outragous.

  42. HABSSTAR says:

    …or maybe not. 

    Sorry man. 

  43. canucks4thecup says:

    I agree with you 100%

  44. canucks4thecup says:

    I agree with Bure96 that is!!!

  45. hockey_lover says:

    HA!  Well done, sir 😛

  46. TheOnlyIslesFan says:

    Could be Larry Murphy who went on and won two Stanley Cups while being a big contributor for the Red Wings, Kenny Jonsson who had a pretty solid career with the Islanders? Maybe that pick that was Luongo for Clarke as well?

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