Comments on: BURKE: MARKET PICKING UP STEAM, LEAFS OPEN FOR BUSINESS

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:13:02 +0000

Yeah Mojo you are exactly the type of fan i was talking about…. Your saying the trade was a raping, now thats nothing more than your opinion because Phaneuf hasn't been living up to his billing the passed few years this one included… Thats not saying he'll never put it together again but it's looking bleak at this point in time…. Phaneuf being your captain has nothing to do with the matter…. Having a "C" on your shirt doesn't mean as much as it used to….. And as far as the pieces going to calgary being replacable… ok yeah sure that may be true but those main three pieces have been out-performing your main pieces since day one of the trade….There have been many instances of "big name" players being traded for lesser pieces and then fade away while the lessers become more integral to their team….. I'm not saying this will happen but you can't pretend to be so confident about such an uncertainty…. as far as being a "raping"… just by looks alone thus far… i'd say sutter did the raping…. but as with everything else… time will truly tell

By: FlamingHomer

FlamingHomer — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:57:15 +0000

No one in Calgary would reverse that trade if they had the chance.
I watched a couple of dozen of Phaneuf's games when he played in Red Deer plus all but a few of his games as a Flame. I have seen more of him than most people on this site. When he was nominated for the Calder I agreed. The year he was nominated for the Norris, I agreed with that too. But his last few years his development took a couple of steps backward and he wasn't interested in getting better. He still can't hit the net from the point. He makes his partner look bad by giving up two on ones due to bad decisions. He rarely hits anymore. He still just stands in front of the goal with one hand on the stick. Calgary has more responsible d-men in the minors than him.
Ian White is a better offensive and defensive defenseman, especially at half the money.
Robin Regehr sure doesn't miss him and neither do I.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 04:05:42 +0000

I think Dion has been great on the PK.

Also, Burkey still did rape Sutter on that trade. Dion is the captain and he's played well. His presence has really made a huge difference with this team and turned us around since his arrival.

Guys like Stajan, White, Hagman, and Mayers are all very replaceable. ie Bozak, Lebda, MacArthur, Brown. All those secondary pieces are always going to be fairly attainable, but a guy like Phaneuf is hard to come by.

By: TimTheBone

TimTheBone — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:38:49 +0000

So ok while it's still too early to be declaring a clear cut "winner" of the Phaneuf trade, I just find it rather funny how most leafs fans and others alike were saying how Burke "raped" Sutter on this trade…. yet at this particular moment that couldn't be further from the truth…. amd Leafs fans even seem to be unsure about Double Dion…. hahah …. I just find it funny how people sometimes feel like they have a strong understanding on how something so uncertain will play out….and its not just two games he had that were "bad"…. cause in order to get a -5 he'd most likely be on the ice for more than just 5 goals against seeing as how he's been on the ice for goals for…. not to mention the "-"s you don't see on the PK… if he plays there

By: glotz_99

glotz_99 — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:43:19 +0000

Alright here is a more likely trade:

Jamie Lagenbruner for John Mitchell, Joey Crabb, 5th rd pick

By: MystifoLeafs

MystifoLeafs — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:31:11 +0000

Phaneauf and Schenn maybe for a test in a game or so BUT if they fail once they should just go back to the Kaberle and Schenn because I REALLY do not want to mess with a good thing and right now they are doing too well to just muck up.

By: DannyLeafs

DannyLeafs — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:21:02 +0000

Yeah, I am not sure Philly would deal Carter, as they would likely sign him and deal with the cap issues later, but you never know with the way some of these cap problems are starting to catch up to teams taking this approach. I think you will see teams be much more conservative with their space in the coming years, and some good players will be allowed to just walk.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:00:31 +0000

It might be really good for Phaneuf. The steadying presence could be a boon.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:31:33 +0000

soulstrum - Sjostrom

Yep. Certainly looks like a "typo." Looks nothing like a completely different word from someone who "at least know's what he's talking about."

Good call.

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:17:13 +0000

I don't want the first pairing broken up, however I am even less sure I want Komi with Phaneuf. Something about it strikes me as not good.