Burke says only 'slim' chance of trade before deadline

Christmas will likely come early for the Maple Leafs in the form of no phone call to pack bags for a trade.

Though general manager Brian Burke’s personal holiday roster freeze will not be in effect until after Thursday’s game against the Philadelphia Flyers, Burke told the Toronto Sun this morning there was only a “slim” chance of making a deal by then. The National Hockey League’s official halt on trades and waivers does not begin until midnight Dec. 19, lasting through Dec. 27, but Burke likes to have his teams play under as little stress as possible this month.

“Obviously, we want to win games so no one has to worry about a move or something like that,” winger Clark MacArthur said on Thursday morning. “It’s better that he’s given us more time and it’s a good thing that you can settle in and relax for the holidays. But our focus is to get some wins here and settle down before the break.”

Burke usually sets his own freeze date weeks in advance and keeps his word, even though the Leafs losing six of their past nine might have prompted a lot of incoming calls from rival GMs.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2010/12/09/16487881.html


97 Responses to Burke says only 'slim' chance of trade before deadline

  1. Leafs_the_word says:

    Most of the East is terrible, I mean the Habs are a top three team, we can give ourselves a chance.

  2. DaLeafers says:

    Edm raped Tor last time they played…

    Calgary … who knows
    Vancouver – if Lou is in net, that lowers Tor's odds by 50%
    Atlanta – lots of potential… 2nd best team on that list have Vancouver
    NJ – brodeur and Kovy… either has a good game Leafs are done.
    Car – Tor never plays well against Carolina
    Clb – mid-tier team that cant be counted out
  3. leafy says:

    Exactly right. Toronto hasn't proven to be better than most of those teams. They'll beat a good team, then play like shit against bad teams. They are, to put it mildly, unreliable. I have ZERO confidence in this team. Sorry.

  4. Leafs_the_word says:

    Edmonton – Erratic team, suck most nights
    Calgary – Made up of Maple Leaf rejects entirely beatable
    Vancouver – We play well against them, an honest effort is enough to beat them
    Atlanta – The toughest game on this list IMO
    Carolina – Struggling, we have walk all over them before, we were 4-0 against them the year they won a president trophy and the cup and .500 since, so I don't see how we struggle against them
    Columbus – No easy win for a bad team in the LNH, whats your point? These are all winnable games.

  5. Boston_Bruins says:

    No matter what Cherry says it's entertaining, even if I disagree with it or not, or if he contradicts himself lol.

  6. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Me either, they fustrate and upset me on most nights watching them.

    They tease you, they show up, then they go lifeless for no reason, I guess thats a part of a relaly young team buut its just so fustrating to watch.

    A great example was Saturday night, a terrific first period, followed by two lifeless periods, was just upsetting and fustrating to watch.

    This team has two wins against Montreal, nearly defeated Washington twice, beat Pittsburgh, beat Boston, beat playoff teams in Nashville and Dallas thus faar, took Tampa and Vanocuver to close games…

    Then they have blowouts to Edmonton and Ottawa, loss to the New York Islanders, losses to Buffalo…

    There's something wrong here

  7. reinjosh says:

    If we can beat the Caps, we can pretty much beat any of them.

  8. nordiques100 says:

    better judge is the Bruins. They are a superior "team" than the "as Ovechkin goes, so go the caps" Caps.

     

  9. nordiques100 says:

    January's sked is even worse in my opinion.

    They play so many teams they tend to sag against. Boston, Carolina, Tampa, Stlouis, Anaheim to name a few

    They play the Blues at home and then the next night they start a 4 game roadtrip to Atlanta, LA, SJ and Phx. That  will be an absolute killer. 5 games in 8 nights.

    We thought this past week was bad, no. The Leafs tend to blow goats against the pacific division.

    If the next 7 are games to bring them back into the race. The 7 after are all about survival. However all will be moot I guess if they screw the pooch in Western Canada and the holiday sked against the cities that don't really deserve a hockey team.

  10. nordiques100 says:

    The Leafs took 3 of the last 5 games.

    They currently have played 29 games. If they go out west this week and take 2 of 3 from the Western Canadian teams that would give them 30 points in 32 games.

    If the rest of the way they keep a 3 out of 5 pace, that would give them 62 more points and put them at 92. Potentially that could be enough.

    ATL W
    NJ L
    CAR W
    CBJ W
    OTT L

    BOS L
    STL W
    ATL W
    LA L
    SJ L

    PHX W
    CAL W
    NYR L
    ANA  W
    WAS W

    CAR W
    TB L
    FLA W
    CAR W
    BUF L

    ATL W
    NYI W
    NJ W
    MON L
    BOS L

    BUF W
    OTT W
    NYI L
    MON W
    PIT L

    ATL W
    PIT L
    PHI L
    CHI W
    NYI W

    PHI W
    BUF L
    TB L
    CAR W
    FLA W

    BOS L
    MIN W
    COL W
    DET L
    BUF W

    BOS L
    OTT W
    WAS L
    NJ W
    MON W

    They're likely not going to be like Pitt and win 12 in a row. but, if they can avoid any 3 or more game losing streaks, or any 4 losses in 5 stretches, that's really the only way they're going to get back in it.

    however to do that, BB is going to need to find some help. If it means stop gap players to help the offence, or a major influx of size, or just even a guy who can win draws, whatever, they're going to need a boost.

  11. MystifoLeafs says:

    I can't think of any help out there that we can really acquire. Can't wait to see is Tavares tries to leave NYI the min his contract is up, I also wonder where he plans on going if he does?

  12. nordiques100 says:

    I would love it seeing him leave long island for manhattan.

    that would give the 3 Islander fans something to match the Rangers chant of Potvin Sucks.

  13. leafy says:

    Amazing how far the Islanders have fallen. 30 years ago, they were dominating the NHL.

  14. leafy says:

    A little while back I said I just can't see Tavares leaving the Isles, but maybe I misread it. Imagine if he was to become a Leaf? Exactly what we need to turn around this team.

  15. MystifoLeafs says:

    From what I have read he does like the leafs Organization and grew up a leafs fan "But then again from what it seems they all grew up a habs fan or a leafs fan when they are from Canada.) But yeah I would love to have him as a center for the leafs, I was sad when he was drafted by the Isles but things are looking better for us to snatch him away from the isles.

  16. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This might sound crazy and doubt it will work…But we'll give it a shot.

    Brad Richards wants and will go to New York Rangers…But the Rangers need to clear up a lot of capspace. Here comes Toronto, and I'm willing to take a lot of the Rangers salary, for a huge compensation to get that young first-line center.

    New York Rangers:

    Chris Drury
    Michal Roszival
    Derek Stepan

    Toronto:

    Francois Beauchemin
    Mikhail Grabovski
    3rd rounder Toronto

    Kadri-Stepan-Kessel
    Kulemin-Drury-MacArthur
    Armstrong-Bozak-Versteeg
    Orr-Sjostrom-Brown

    Phaneuf-Roszival
    Schenn-Kaberle
    Aulie-Gunarsson

    Giguere
    Gustavsson

    I know the caps a bit off but Burke would have to find a way to make it work, or they just bench Komisarek

  17. leafy says:

    Some of the more optimistic Leaf fans here claim that the East is terrible and we can beat almost any team. Yet why are we third from the bottom in that "terrible" East? If anything, this is even further proof that we stink!!!

    Sick and tired of hearing excuses and hypothetical "what ifs". It's now going to be 7 years in a row without seeing the playoffs. Disgraceful.

    Besides, this year is another write-off.  Why are people even talking about this year? Am I missing something here?

  18. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Actually if this trade worked out, it might be good…

    -Roszival's cap hit is 5 mil, but his salary due is much lower in the final year of his contract next year at 3 mil. So his cap hit will be 5, but salary 3 for a guy whose been a lot better this year.

    So, at the end of the year, a team, say Phoenix or Nashville, that needs to up their salary cap but wants to pay for a cheaper player can acquire Rosizval from Toronto for possinbly next to nothing. So they get a quality d-men at a cheaper rate, while increasing their cap.

  19. dumbassdoorman says:

    I like your idea for sure, but don't wanna trade grabs he is playing well. And it would be way cooler if they took home state boy Komi instead!!!! lol….but good thinking

  20. Leafs_the_word says:

    I picked the Leafs to finish 12th in the conference and I'm an optimist??? I guess anyone picking the Leafs to finish over 30th makes them an optimist.

  21. Leafs_the_word says:

    If we can play ourselves into a 10th overall pick slot I’ll consider the season a success.

  22. leafy says:

    No you're not an optimist. You just assume the Leafs will beat most teams higher than them in the standings.

    Moving on to the big picture, I fail to see your point in your above posts. Who cares about this year? This year is just about done. Regarding the upcoming games, what's your point? What are you driving at, if anything?

    Usually when people post an opinion, they have a point. Kind of helps. What's your point?!

  23. Leafs_the_word says:

    When did I assume that???? ??? I said the entire season hinges on the next couple of weeks and the Leafs have a shot given that they play games they should have a chance in.  How the ***** do you read that as me saying we're a shoe in to win though games?

    The point was this season will be decided in the next two weeks.  Was that not a big enough point for you? Do I have connect the dots of the entire history and future of the organization while decoding the semiotics of the current day to day news to make a point? 

    Can anything other than harping on the Kessel deal and moaning be said on this site? 

  24. reinjosh says:

    Apparently not. Lets all bemoan the Kessel deal, and beat the blood into the ground 5 feet down. Apparently saying that we can win is a bad thing because winning and the Leafs must not go together. The world is ending, lets all sit in little holes and cry Kessel.

  25. leafy says:

    You think this team has "a shot" at making the playoffs?!?!?!?

    Nah! You're not optimistic….

    Lastly, I didn't bring up Kessel. Don't be stupid.

  26. mojo19 says:

    nice trade. Seems fair

  27. Leafs_the_word says:

    Sigh… Why do all the smart people end up in Hamilton, perhaps you need to invest in Hooked on Phonics.

    Oh and you never whine about Kessel, that must be my imagination.

  28. leafy says:

    Word, you're stupid. Kessel is not even on my mind and I don't live in Hamilton any more.

    Stop being a paranoid idiot.

    And step it up on the intellect level.

  29. mojo19 says:

    Me too. How sad is that?

    We used to have Stanley Cup aspirations, anything else would be a failure. Then we just wanted to at least make the playoffs. Now finishing 10th would have to be considered a succesful season. What a sorry state.

    Can't wait for next year to hopefully be really competitive or be utterly hopeless but hold our 1st round pick. Either way, we would at least have something to look forward to: playoffs or the draft. This year its like we're a year away from being excited about anything.

  30. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    Lafleur, your an idiot.

    Leafs always rape the garbage Habs.
    Macarthur destroyed Spacek.
    Habs are GARBAGE
    you can never beat the leafs AHHAHAHA
  31. LeafFansAreGay says:

    The Maple Laffs are garbage. The sorry ass excuse for an nhl franchise should just fold and move to Kansas city or Yuma. Arent you tired of losing? If I was a Laffs fan I'd kill myself right now.

    The Habs are garbage also I'll give you that one. The Bruins are the only true beast of the east. Last summer I told you Laffs fans the Boston Bruins are dominating and the Laffs are drowning. Now you see I was right.

    Laffs fans who want to apologize can comment below.

  32. Leafs_the_word says:

    I was just putting you down, I don't care where you live.

    Again, I'm just making fun of your inability to read or put in context anything I've said going back to this summer, you're acting like a hick.

    When you get up to speed you can start throwing around the words like stupid, until then you don't get to taken seriously.

    Buh bye.

  33. reinjosh says:

    So being tied for 8th in the east is equivalent to being a beast of the east? That must means 7 other teams are beasts of the east…

  34. Leafs_the_word says:

    Shhhhhhhhhhh, I love watching their homo drama.

  35. Boston_Bruins says:

    They're actually tied for 4th in the league for point percentage.

  36. mojo19 says:

    His family is really involved in Lacrosse in Oakville and Mimico. JT's uncle coached my brother. Would love to see that kid join the Leafs in a few years.

    The key will be for him to sign a short term deal when he's an RFA and get to UFA status as quickly as possible.

  37. mojo19 says:

    Kaberle report 30 games in….

    – Tomas Kaberle has the best plus/minus on the Leafs (+2, tied with Luke Schenn).

    – Kaberle averages 23:17 per game, which is 2nd on the team behind Beauchemin.

    – Kaberle leads the team in assists, with 16

    – Kaberle is 6 points behind the team's leading scorer (Clarke MacArthur)

    – Kaberle is 5th on the team in Shots on goal, behind only Kessel, Grabovski, Versteeg, and Kulemin.

    And above all, his influence on Schenn has been really apparent. Luke has been so calm walking out of his end and is playing with lots of confidence. This pair has been solid all year.

  38. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Aren't we tired of losing? LOL

    Let's see…the last time the Bruins won the cup was 71/72 season. Please enlighten us all on what's it's like to win…Oh yea, you have no clue! lol

    Since you're a Bruins fan… you must be tired of losing, which means you will kill yourself. Kind of a stupid thing to do over a hockey team. Leafs fans aren't that stupid.

    The positive is that we will not be bored anymore by your pathetic attempts at humour. Although if I was you and had nothing better to do than go on other teams sites to write my little zings(as you see it) against them…I can see how you might think you now have a full life.

    By any chance are you writing this stuff from your Grandma's basement? I assume that's where you live. Does she bring you milk and cookies and put out your cowboy pajamas before bed? Just wondering.

  39. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I have never had a problem with Kaberle. He is still good value at 4.25 mil per season. I say it's 50/50 at best he gets moved this year. I believe there is some influence on Schenn from Kaberle but mostly Schenn has just worked hard in the off-season and matured.

    Interesting stats on Kabs though.

  40. LeafsFTW17 says:

    To be honest I never fully appreciated Kaberle until this season.  He is playing amazing!
    With that being said I am still hoping he gets traded. 
    Schenn has always been my favorite player since he was playing for the Kelowna Rockets, loved watching him. everytime he touched the puck the crowed would yell LUUUU….hope that stars happening at the ACC soon.

  41. nordiques100 says:

    Sadly this will all come to a crashing end when Komisarek comes back into the lineup and a player playing well is forced out.

    Likely, Carl Gunnarsson will be benched. He isnt the 'key' off season signing nor is he a key 'leader' wearing an 'A'.

    He has played well the last while and when you see he's taking key PK minutes, he has value.

    Lets face it, Komisarek is an expensive Pylon.

    He will come in and lessen the team's ability to be more mobile on the backend, lessen the team's ability to stay disciplined and out of the penalty box and increase the team's chances of giving the puck away.

    Its apples to oranges, but when the Habs were winning, they should not have put Subban back no matter how good he is. I hate it when teams ruin a good streak breaking a winning lineup just because a player with a bigger paycheque or supposed talent level HAS TO supposedly be put back in the lineup.

    A team like Montreal may be able to live with that cause they have a greater ability to go on a long win streak. The leafs do not. They are still a wildly inconsistent club. Any opportunity to go on a long win stretch can only be a good thing. So best to keep the good karma going.

    Likely many do not believe in this. But I find it ironic that in hockey, the most superstitious sport, teams don't hold to the 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' mentality when it comes to breaking winning lineups.

    If you want more proof, the Leafs started 4-0. The 5th game they inserted Brett Lebda and lost. He in fact took a stupid penalty in OT to give the Isles the chance to win. Its karma.

  42. Leafs_RegimeofBurke_ says:

    good point Nords. So true. Damn Lebda and Komisarek. Part of me yearns for Komisarek to finally return to form…you see flashes of it…a giant hit or a big battle win…but its then often contrasted by a glaring giveaway of sorts. Lebda in the lineup is just dumb considering how many better performing D-men we have.

  43. Leafs_the_word says:

    I love how quiet this forum gets after a win.

  44. mojo19 says:

    I think if we can go on a bit of a tear it will heat up again.

  45. LeafsFTW17 says:

    I have said this so many times but I HATE Lebda!

  46. nordiques100 says:

    well the pleads have been wait and see.

    so, i guess we'll wait and see.

    but even after a couple wins, mr burke shouldnt be sitting on his hands and mr messiah shouldnt be "look at me look at how great i am" or "where's my credit"

  47. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    habs are garbage

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