Burke to stay course

“I want to get in with a reasonable chance to (advance deep) or bloody someone’s nose while doing it,” he stated in January when everyone in the Eastern Conference except Boston and the Rangers were tripping over themselves. Burke even said draft picks and prospects could be on the table to hit a home run.

Now, he’s tempered expectations to the point where something small could be all that results from the next day and half of discussions. If he doesn’t want to put precious resources such as Jake Gardiner on the market, the Leafs will be waiting for Plan B or C deals that spin off other teams’ dealings.

Everyone will want to know about bringing in a goaltender by 3 p.m. Monday and James Reimer’s inability to make the big save, never mind if it’s a teammate’s fault, is huge cause for concern.

“I said specifically that we’re going to listen on goaltending,” Burke of stinging comments earlier this week about Reimer and Jonas Gustvasson.

“We haven’t seen anything that makes sense yet, but we’re going to continue to try to add.”

He said the Jeff Carter deal between Columbus and Los Angeles started a domino chain, but that seemed to have stopped by Friday.

“I haven’t seen an appreciable increase in activity since then,” Burke said. “Everyone’s working the phones like crazy. So far we haven’t had any tough calls to make.”

He said the Leafs are in an awkward position, not a clear buyer or seller, while others have more defined needs.


42 Responses to Burke to stay course

  1. toronto77 says:

    bloody someone's nose? for a team full of speak and skill and lacks physicality, the leafs are one of the few teams that can bloddy someone's nose. I think burke should just look at the bruins and blues in terms of how to build a team, cuz whenever he talks about how he wants to build a team he describes the bruins and blues so perfectly. 

    As for Phaneuf, his post game comments were complete bs for the camera. This team lacks momentum.
  2. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This team lacks grit…This speed game does not work.

    Unfortunately, its the only game that Wilson can implement.

    What kind of grit game do you really expect from Kessel, Lombardi, Connolly, Grabovski, and MacArthur?

  3. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    The slide really started when they sent down Orr and stopped playing Rosehill and guys like Armstrong and Komisarek. Players like Kessel, Grabo, Bozak and even MacArthur (who does have some grit) are playing less physical since they will have to take care of themselves…who's going to protect them? Schenn? Phaneuf? They can't, we can't afford to have D -men in the box for long periods.

    I have never liked Wilson, he gets more talent every year and does nothing with it. Three + years of the worst defensive team in the league. 
    Connolly signing was stupid. I said at  the end of last season that we should go after guys like Josh Harding and David Clarkson while he was rumored available and saved the cap space for a REAL top talent. Man, could we use those guys now!
    Now we have no grit, no experienced backup goalies and no cap space. Get Orr, Rosehill back up and our talent will play without fear. Get a decent backup at the deadline,( at the very least) and we have a chance at the playoffs.
    It's not rocket science that the slide started as we reduced our toughness.
  4. LeafsFTW17 says:

    you're right, teams need to be afraid to play here.
    If we had Orr back in the lineup it would give those players you mentioned the confidence to go into the dirty areas and crash the net, get those dirty goals.  It would also free up more space for players like Kessel because the opposition won't go for the huge hit on them knowing the Orr will be waiting for you afterwards.

    Like you said, players aren't afraid to hit out top, smaller player because we have no real threat for payback, yes Brown is a good fighter but he isn't a true heavyweight.

  5. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This team will need to go on a miracle run and hope that Florida, Winnipeg, and Washington falters huge.

    Not to mention the stampede that is currently happening behind them.

    Is their really a point of continuing??? Sell off, build assets, fix things in the offseason and create a better team for next year and see what happens.

  6. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    The team is the same one that was in a comfortable position only 10 games ago. There is talent on forward and defence.  We are lacking size and toughness. We are already one of the youngest teams in the league. The rebuild is already begun. Increase size and toughness, like we did at the start of the year and continue to build from what we have.

    Two forwards are in the top 10 in scoring and a d man in the top 15….when was the last time the Leafs had that? 
    Be patient with the talent. Impatient with coaching especially and Burke if he doesn't smarten up.
  7. TheLeafNation91 says:

    THE TALENT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Why is everyone saying the talent will grow?

    Grabovski's 28…How much growing can he do? Everyone still thinks MacArthur is overachieving. Connolly is not getting better. Lupul is probably at his max…And same with Kessel.

    The team that was winning 10 games ago was heavily relying on Kessel and Lupul to take the load…Guess what, their exhausted…Beaten up, even that senile old man Cherry pointed it out, they did everything they could…This is not their fault.

    Now that their faltering, the team is on a downward spiral…Get used to it buddy…It ain't getting better.

    The only forward that can grow is Kulemin on this roster, if he ever does is another question.

    As well, it's not like Kadri and Colborne are ready now…Or probably next year as well. Yes, including Kadri…The guy is still pretty bad in the pro's.

  8. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    seriously, take a nap

  9. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Seriously, I'm right…Your wrong.

    And I'm always right…But it gets to the point where you guys wait until you get disappointed to admit it.

    Whatever, it makes me look like a genious.

  10. LeafsFTW17 says:


    Check your spelling on genius there bud.

  11. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    So the plan would be to get rid of all the young talent and hope we suck enough for 3 or 4 more years to get 3-4 top 3 picks and start from there? Brilliant.

     What is wrong with Kessel, Grabo, Lupul,? Kessel and Lupul are in the top 10 in scoring….what more do you want? They are beat up because other teams take liberties with them which did not happen for the first third of the season. 
    And prior to the past 5-10 games….for the previous 15- 20 games or so the Grabo unit is what has carried this team offensively. 
    Defensive zone coverage, poor goaltending and a lack of toughness is what has killed this team. Cherry also has touched on those three points as well.
    I understand your frustration though.
  12. TheLeafNation91 says:


    Leafs just choked.

  13. LeafsFTW17 says:

    "The only forward that can grow is Kulemin on this roster, if he ever does is another question. "

    Wow, look at their *****ing roster. Reimer, Schenn, Gardiner, Franson, Gunnarsson, Kessel, Bozak, Kulemin, Frattin and maybe even Lupul are all players on their roster who aren't done growing yet as a player.  And for the players who may have hit their max, they still have a few more years at that level.  
    They have what 2 or 3 players 30+ years old with the oldest being 31?
    D men are said not to hit their max until around 32 so the players like Phaneuf and Liles still have time before they could reach their max. Even Komisarek for that matter.

    That is without the huge potential they have that isn't on their roster.

    So sorry, but you have no argument here.

  14. TheLeafNation91 says:

    How is a 28 year old young talent? Same with MacArthur? These guys are in their PRIME.

    As well, if you read, I never ripped on Kessel or Lupul…Or said they should be traded. I was merely pointing out those 2 have done everything possible so the rest of the team just had to put a little bit of effort…And they didn't.

    How the hell is Grabovski beaten up??? Besides an 8 game stretch where he had like 13 points…He has not done that much for teams to be aware. However, you guys are blinded by some glorious strecth he was on.

    And you would justify giving him 5.5 million for like 5 years…For 40-50 points season? Why…Because you guys are desperate, obviously dumb and don't know how to handle a business.


  15. LeafsFTW17 says:

    Took a genius to point that out eh?

  16. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This is not a defence issue. This is a forwards issue…I'm not arguing this because I've argued the same thing since NOVEMBER.

    But hey…Whose looking right and whose looking wrong?

    Oh, yeah…ME.

  17. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I'm sure they could use you in Columbus. You should forward your resume.

  18. TheLeafNation91 says:

    No…But it looks like your holding onto some faith like a loser.

    I am atleast a realist and said this would happen in November.

  19. LeafsFTW17 says:

    If you are arguing that they need offence and not defense then you are the one looking wrong, not right.

    The leafs have the 8th best goals per game average.
    – Their oldest forward is Connolly who is 30 years old.

    The leafs have the 12th best PP%.

    The leafs have the 3rd worst goals against average.

    The leafs have the 2nd worst PK%.

    BUT If that isn't what you were arguing and you were arguing that they have no future on offence, guess again.
    All but 3 forwards on their current roster (Connolly, Armstrong and Lombardi) have either reached their max and still have more than a few years at being at that level or they haven't even reached their max!

    Hate to break it to you but you aren't as smart as you think..

  20. 93killer93 says:

    From Eklund, Washington is interested in Gagner, but Edmonton said they want Alzner in return. 

  21. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    ouuu genius not looking to smart right about now is he?  real problem is the goalie.. we need a solid backup goalie that can come in and not be horrific and then let reimer play a few cames until he starts rolling again.. even in the game vs washington he showed flashes of brilliance, couldnt blame that game on him

  22. MystifoLeafs says:

    No honestly right now your just looking like a  pessimistic jerk. I mean last time  I checked there is 20 games before now and the playoffs with Toronto having 2 games in hand on Winnipeg and only 5 points out of the playoff spot. While yes they have been god awful in the past 8 games you can't pin this all on our forwards. Like I have said SINCE the off season our biggest question mark is our goaltending. We have put all of our faith in two very young very inexperienced goaltenders and expected them to play amazing in a system that only the best goalies can flourish in. 

    Our forwards have not been good as of late but OUR GOALTENDING has not given our forwards any hope.
  23. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    also good goaltending can boost our forwards confidence in taking risks and thinking more offensively.. after a few horrible goals our forwards were thinking more defensive minded and not taking any chances cause they were scared that a shot on net = a goal. What people need to understand that playing TOO defensive minded will hurt you defensively and offensively. Being too scared and not attacking the puck just waiting back and trying to protect your net at all costs lets guys like alex ovechkin have time and space and as you guys saw in the last game, ovechkin looked amazing. And no matter how good you are defensively.. if you give a guy like ovechkin time and space he's going to run you into the ground. And offensively its self explanitory.. play too defensive your not going to get any offence generating. You have to find that perfect mix. 

    Example to prove my point: 
    Game vs washington.. the games 4-0 and washington comes down 2-1 vs reimer and he makes a rediculous save. couple plays later washington comes down 3 on 1 and reimer holds his ground which was near the end of the second period… Leafs come out in the third and score 2 quick goals and look alive and outplay washington in the third. Once everyone has faith in their goalie, they play better! hopefully that third period is what brings toronto out of the slump.. just trying to look at some of the positives ! 
  24. Steven_Leafs says:

    you're stupid.

  25. Steven_Leafs says:

    you're stupid.

    I warned you if you kept attacking others I would do this. I'm going to respond with this every time you call someone else a loser or an idiot. Maybe you will see just how damn annoying it is.

  26. Steven_Leafs says:

    "Why…Because you guys are desperate, obviously dumb and don't know how to handle a business."

    you're stupid

  27. Steven_Leafs says:

    yeah I would too, Alzner or Carlsson, there is no point in trading Gagner for picks or prospects. A young forward for defense swap is completely reasonable, especially when Edmonton can send back defensive depth.


    If Washington wants to do Gagner for Alzner but does not want to lose a defenseman on their roster then just do:

    To Edmonton:

    2012 3rd

    To Washington:


    or something like that, Washington gets a 6/7 defenseman and a no.2 centerman for a 3/4 defenseman with an outside shot of becoming a 1/2 defenseman and a mid level pick.

  28. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Tough guys threaten behind the computer (y)

  29. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Well, that's a sever overpayment.

  30. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Yeah, I'm gonna listen to some late comer to this site. LOL.

    I'm not as weak as leafy…Try be tougher behind the keyboard sunshine.

  31. TheLeafNation91 says:

    You're stupid.

  32. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    dumbest post ever on htr.

  33. NonLeafFansAreGay says:


  34. TheLeafNation91 says:


    Geese. I would really find it hilarious if all you "Spell-Checkers" are actually uneducated idiots who want to feel smart.

    Don't worry…its okay.

  35. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    explain why you think that? i still play hockey and its completely true, whenever our backup goalie's in net our coach actually changes the system we play to try and protect the net first, given he's god awful but its really true our offensive numbers drop drastically whenever he's in goal because nobody has confidence that he will make a save so we cant take any risks? believe me our team will be 10X better with a good goalie, doesnt have to be great, just good

  36. LeafsFTW17 says:

    I'm pretty sure he wasn't reffering to your post..

    btw what league are you playing in?

  37. thisgamewelose says:

    It's definitely true. I'll even bet you play much better Defensively with your backup in net. 

  38. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    junior A

  39. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    oh sorry if you weren't referring to my post but hey everyone has different opinions if they dont think people play different with a different goalie in net, that particular individual may not who knows right? just my observations

  40. mojo19 says:


    TheLeafNation91 takes an ass kicking on here all the time.
  41. Steven_Leafs says:

    you're stupid

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