Burke 'trying hard' to make a trade

All eyes are on Brian Burke.

Maybe that’s because he’s one of the few GMs who will actually be in Ottawa for this weekend’s NHL all-star festivities, but with the trade deadline only 31 days away, everybody is waiting for Burke to make a move.

“He’s trying. He’s trying hard. He definitely wants to get bigger,” a league executive said Thursday.

In a battle for one of the final two or three playoff spots with as many as six or seven teams in the Eastern Conference, the Maple Leafs want to get stronger.

Burke would like Toronto to be more hard-nosed, especially up front.

A guy on the Leafs’ radar could be San Jose W Ryane Clowe. He has a cap hit of $3.625 million through next season, but the word is he might be someone the Sharks are willing to part with before the deadline.

Before anybody in San Jose picks up the phone to get GM Doug Wilson’s denial he’ll move Clowe, the belief is it would take more than the Leafs might be willing to offer to make that deal happen, so going after a potential unrestricted free agent is more realistic.

The Leafs would certainly have an interest in Carolina’s Tuomo Ruutu. The Hurricanes have held talks with his camp, but it’s believed Ruutu wants too much on a long-term deal, which means he’ll likely be moved.


71 Responses to Burke 'trying hard' to make a trade

  1. reinjosh says:

    Fair enough, far be it for me to knock your opinion, I just don't agree. 

    I know the benefits of height better than anyone I know, and I would imagine more than anyone else on this site. I'm 6 foot 8 and it helps ridiculous amounts. I get why people like Colborne because of that. But I caution against overrating it too much.
    His biggest knock is still that he plays games where he doesn't look like he is into it and thats still very much something he has and has carried with him through college. Outside of 29 games at the AHL level he's been absolutely nothing special. All his NHL points were meh at best (his first assist was lucky, most of his other players were not the product of his play) so I don't look at being a 0.5 PPG player after ten games as anything special. 
    To be honest I wasn't a fan even before we acquired him and while I'm not going to be against having a potenial blue chipper, he hasn't done anything up to this point for me to put as much faith as you do in him. Kadri has simply outclassed him in every offensive facet in the game.
    Yes we have talent on the wings but we don't have Kadri's type talent on the wings. I would even go so far as to say we don't have that type of talent on the NHL roster outside of Kessel and many, many pundits, fans and analysts agree on that. He simply has more talent than any person in our organization save for Kessel. 
    I simply can't agree with taking potential over pure talent at this point since Colborne has hardly done anything to warrant that. Kadri meanwhile has 63 points in 66 games, has a feistyness and heart almost every game that Colborne sometimes doesn't have. I mean f*ck, Kadri has 8 less points in 66 games than Colborne has in 104 AHL games and yet somehow Kadri gets some much crap its ridiculous.
    We need to stop having a size fetish on this team. Size is nice, but needlessly throwing away talent just because a player MIGHT be a decent top 6 center is moronic. 
  2. reinjosh says:

    I suppose one 80 point season makes him a top liner. 

    When he's on he's a high end second liner who can score 30 goals and hit 60 points.  He's not a first line center. Never has been and never will be.
  3. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Unfortunately josh, the NHL now has not much room for skill. Look at Montreal, where I think this forward crop is comparable. Montreal had a lot of skilled players, unfortunately, they could really win and always got criticized for their lack of grit.

    This is what Toronto needs to do now. They have tons of skilled and high speed forwards. Grabovski, Kadri, Kessel, etc. But are any of these guys necessarily gritty? No. This is why we always get mucked by the Bruins, they simply outwork/grit us. A lot of you guys like the skill, but skill does not win many championships. Maybe Detroit? But heck, Datsyuk is maybe the best defensive player in the game…Something you will never see out of Kadri or Kessel unfortuntely.

    Colborne's points was from production that Leaf fans say we are lacking. His assist on Frattin's first goal was great vision, his first goal is a highly-skilled center just crashing the net hard.

    Like I say, we will differ, but I still believe their is a greater chance of Kadri leaving this organization over Colborne. And we gotta wait and see if it works out or not, I'm confident it will.

  4. Steven_Leafs says:

    I do agree that size and grit are very important especially for a 7 game series but size and grit alone doesn't win championships either. You need a good balance. And while I do agree that if Colborne and Kadri were both destined to be a no.1 center with similar skills and value then we would be much better off with Colborne over Kadri but the problem is we have no idea how these guys are going to develop, and as of right now Kadri is more valuable.

    I think that if we are offered a trade for lets say Getzlaf and we got to choose whether we include Colborne or Kadri into the deal, we would be stupid to include Kadri. The fact is that Kadri is far more likely to become a top 3 player than Colborne right now and while Colborne might make a better first line center because of his size there is no evidence he will be that guy.

    Oh well I don't think it matters that much, if we had a deal to get Getzlaf or Eric Staal then we probably would have to give up both Kadri and Colborne anyway. 😛

  5. Steven_Leafs says:

    agreed, Ryan is a really good player but I think we would give up too much.

  6. hockey_lover says:

    Other than that "draft Belak" thing which is completely classless, I think you got some sour grapes, Ace.

    Its a rivalry. Suck it up buttercup.

  7. hockey_lover says:

    On another note .. the best part of the All-Star game was Hartnell. He was mic-ed up. He scored a goal in the 1st, skated by the benches and said "Suck it, Phaneuf."  Man that was funny.   Not cause it was Dion .. just that we dont normally hear the chatter on the ice so it was funny to hear something like that.

    Sad when the best part of the game .. wasnt even PART of the game lol

  8. reinjosh says:

    I like how you always take what I say and twist it and take it farther than I ever intended. I didn't say I would prefer no size at all, I just question the logic of giving up obvious high talent skill who hasn't regressed at all (in fact the opposite) in place of a guy that has shown a whole 29 games of talent at the pro level and a lot less in the other 70 odd games.

    His first and only goal was complete luck by a big man. Steckel has goals like that, doesn't make him a first liner. That's my point. Size is great and all but I prefer true talent with that size and as far as I'm concerned, Colborne hasn't shown too much of it yet. 
    I'm not confident in betting on Colborne. I realize you differ and sure go ahead, but I don't see the high end talent you see in him.
    I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a guy like Staal, Getzlaf. I would do the same with Kadri but I'd give up Colborne first. And I certainly don't want to give up Kadri for a guy like Ruutu or Clowe. I'd give Colborne up for Clowe though (likely, but I'd try everything I could to not do that).
  9. reinjosh says:

    So the Leafs have a 70 percent shot at making the playoffs…

    Far from the "unlikely chance" some are giving them…
  10. reinjosh says:

    They could bypass Yakupov all together for Girgorenko as well. With Nash and Carter more wing players than centers (Carter has to start playing wing again), they may want to go with the playmaking big man over the all around high end scoring winger (which they arguably have). Shooting for a Malkin over a Kovalchuk.

    Or maybe they shock everyone and trade down. Confident with Johansen, Umberger, Nash and Carter being the core of the forward corps, they trade down for some extra assets and pick a stud dman like Murray or Dumba. 
    I'm not sure I agree with you on the Johansen thing though. Why trade him? It just doesn't make any sense. Sure he's a young guy but he is the future. He could very well make an impact next year and help them make the playoffs. Johansen in the one of three plus players on the team (Derek MacKenzie and LEbda are the others), he's tied for third in goals, and he has the most GWG on that team. I see no reason why Columbus would move him short of a top line player coming back (like a Getzlaf, or Ryan maybe).
  11. reinjosh says:

    Haha I thought that was funny. He apparently said he was just chirping everyone lol. 

    I feel like he was probably just playing to the crowd, but I enjoyed it. 
    "Three Sedins!" haha.
  12. hockey_lover says:

    Im not sure how old everyone here is so this reference might not be the best. The "suck it" thing has struck a cord with me since the "celebrity jeopardy" skit on SNL when the dude said "suck it, Trebek."   For some reason, the beat, the tone, the whatever just made me laugh so hard.  So when I heard Hartnell say it, I roared. My buddies were like "seriously? That funny?"

    Yeah that was funny as well. I didnt watch the whole game but if he was mic-ed the whole game, I can imagine what else he said.

  13. mapleleafsfan says:

    Haha those skits are fantastic

  14. JoelLeafs says:

    So deal our best C for a pick and prospect that we can trade from someone that will be our best C? It would take more than that to get an improvement on Grabo.

  15. DannyLeafs says:

    I would completely agree with you there. If we were getting a big center back, I would include Colborne over Kadri in a heartbeat. It makes  a difference what we get back in the deal as to what we give up. If we were getting a smaller high talent winger back in the deal, it would be closer. I like Kadri much more then Colborne, but it would be a harder decision because of already having Kessel and then adding another high talent small winger. It would be hard to imagine having 3 small wingers playing in the top six, so it might make more sense in that case to trade Kadri instead.

    Also, as to your first statement, that's common espcially on this site. The two biggest tools of people with weak argumentative skills are the "slippery slope" argument and the ad hominem or appeal to authority depending on what side they are one. My biggest pet peeves are misusing statistical evidence and arguing using logical fallacies to back up your point, but it happens a lot, and it's something you see run rappant on the internet.

  16. thisgamewelose says:

    I don't that's really too far off.  I'd take Ryan over that package, unless Toronto drops to the top 8 pick.

  17. thisgamewelose says:

    He's a weasel. He makes you just want to punch him in the face! 🙂 I kid.

  18. blaze says:

    I'm not saing he's available, only that I hope Burke targets him. Howson is a GM IMO that Burke could convince to it would be in his best interest to move Johansen. Howson will do anything he truly believes will get Columbus into the playoffs next year, it's an absolute must for the franchise.

  19. reinjosh says:

    Fair enough. Pressure can be a weird bedmate and make you do things that appear crazy to other people. 

  20. reinjosh says:

    Agree with you on both. I'm sure I'm guilty of using those types of arguments occasionally but I try to keep my logic solid and not let it slip because of bias or annoyance.

    The internet can be incredibly stupid sometimes. It's frustrating lol.
  21. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    bruins are horrrrrrible, boston's a horrrrrrrible city

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