Canadiens continue to search for a trade partner

It’s no secret the Montreal Canadiens want to get bigger and more offensive, but it’s taking GM Marc Bergevin a little longer than he’d like to acquire some outside help.

After an impressive 11-1-2 run, the Canadiens have lost three of their last four games and have only managed to score three times in this stretch.
Bergevin has been scouring the league looking for a scoring winger to add to his top-six — preferably the team’s top line — but has found it difficult trying to complete a move that also works within the team’s salary cap.

The Canadiens have roughly $3.5 million in available cap space.

According to multiple published reports by different media outlets, the Habs have shopped the likes of winger Rene Bourque and captain Brian Gionta in an attempt to free up cap space and bolster their roster.

Bourque, 32, has two-years left on his contract beyond this season at an annual cap hit of $3.333 million, while the 34-year-old Gionta is in the final year of his deal, which pays him $5 million.

Bourque also owns a limited no-trade clause, while Gionta has a full no-trade clause, and both players would likely need to sign off on any deal the Canadiens attempt to make.

The Habs have been continuously linked to Winnipeg Jets sniper Evander Kane, and while interest is there, it’s unclear how in-depth trade talks have been.

54 Responses to Canadiens continue to search for a trade partner

  1. leafy says:

    Kevin Dineen will be coaching the chicks at the Olympics.

  2. leafy says:

    I just read Toronto acquired Morrow. But then I realized it’s in soccer. Got my sports mixed up again.

  3. Gambo says:

    Why is Raymond starting on the 4th line?

    • leafy says:

      I’m telling you, Carlyle is an idiot. I’m not exaggerating or trying to be funny, or even using the word metaphorically.

      I mean LITERALLY, the guy is an idiot.

      Can’t believe this guy won a Stanley Cup.

  4. mapleleafsfan says:

    This team is an absolute joke. Would it kill anyone to try? We need an actual leader on forward. Where’s the old Lupul when you need him.

    Raymond on the fourth line? Fraser playing at all? Gtfo Carlyle, we don’t need his “toughness” against a pussy team like the Panthers.

    We need Bozak back. Kadri and Kessel are brutally lazy unless they have the puck, gotta split them up.

    • LN91 says:

      I doubt Bozak would make a difference. Even when he was in the lineup, he was not doing much.

      If the Leafs trade their first-round pick…I would be disappointed, because this is not a playoff squad right now.

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        I disagree. Bozak allows Kadri to play with players who actually try, like Lupul. It spreads the scoring out a bit. Bozak was putting up OK points, and hell, at least he looks like he’s working hard. Can’t say the same for the rest of our top 6.

        • mapleleafsfan says:

          I also think Bozaks knack for stealing the puck helps with our rush goals too, which is really the only way the first line score 5on5.

        • LN91 says:

          He’s struggled in the areas he needed most…Faceoffs. Especially on the PK, the decline has started by not winning the draw in their own zone.

          But, it’s way more then Bozak, they’re collectively struggling. I just look at Tampa Bay, who I thought would completely unravel by losing Stamkos, but they’re somehow managing to grab points when needed. That’s the sign of an excellent hockey team.

  5. LN91 says:

    Carlyle’s treatment of his whipping boy, Jake Gardiner, is embarassing. If the Leafs are losing, somehow, it is always his fault.

    Clearly, he did not watch Phaneuf’s horrible plays or the disappearance of 3/4 of his squad. Nope, Gardiner.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Agreed. Oh, we need goals? Lets give Mark Fraser the same amount of ice time as Jake Gardiner. Dion’s having a brutal game and -2? Lets sit Gardiner to get Dion back out there.

      How about playing Lupul more than McClement, Clarkson, Smith, and any other forward that has less than 10 points this season (Those players actually try which I like, but they can’t score for shit).

      Nonis needs to make a change. Our tough team image is gone, teams must love playing the leafs.

  6. leafmeister says:

    If that fucking caveman is on the team next year at 7 mil per I am gonna be more than a little miffed. This would be the third time in 4 seasons (assuming that this trend continues) as captain that the team has just crumbled like a stale cookie in the regular season, and the half season that they make the playoffs, they manage something remarkable similar. Somehow that does not fall on the brain dead captain.

    • LN91 says:

      This is where I’m worried:

      – Nonis is signing/re-signining big contracts for a team that has too much uncertainty, including his supposed star talents.

      I think he overvalued a young team a bit during a shortened season and an impressive playoff performance (i.e. 09-10 Colorado Avalanche, 11-12 Panthers).

      • leafy says:

        Well I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong, but in retrospect, letting Grabovski go and signing Clarkson was a mistake.

        Now I’d still take Clarkson over Grabo in the playoffs, but given the team we have right now, I’d probably take the regular season player.

        But hindsight vision is 20-20.

      • leafmeister says:

        If play has not picked up by January, it is time to reconsider this season.

        Attempt a serious retool. Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Gardiner, Holland, Rielly, Bernier, Reimer should be relatively untouchable. Open season for the rest.

  7. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Boo Hoo, we didn’t win December

    • leafmeister says:

      Do you think they will make the playoffs? Up until now I thought they would.

      Maybe it would be better in the long run to exorcise this team of Dion and go forward with defensemen who won’t reliably make a boneheaded play. Phaneuf does not think the game well enough to be considered even close to elite.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Or November. It’s hard not to hate this team right now. It’s shambles.

      • lafleur10 says:

        I THOUGHT THEY WERE ELITE? and reimer was suppose to start in socchi?

        • mapleleafsfan says:

          You are such a troll. All we said is at the time he should be considered for the third spot. No one said he should start. Get out of here, you have nothing constructive to say.

          • lafleur10 says:

            well do you still think that? i mean he shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as those guys right now he’s not even close to price,louongo or smith/fleury

          • lafleur10 says:

            i have lots to say the problem is you don’t listen you just have a leafs colored glasses on it’s time to face reality the leafs are overrated and mediocre and just aren’t that good and won’t be
            good teams find ways to win
            bad team find ways to lose and right now the leafs aren’t a good team
            i will say this honestly (yes i’m a hbas fan) but realistically we are a way better team than the leafs are and are closer to getting where we want to be than you guys.

            • mapleleafsfan says:

              Should we have listened when you said Therrien was a lock for Jack Adams? Gallagher a lock for Calder? Price a lock for Vezina?

              The reason no one listens to you is because the only stuff you say bashes the leafs. Why even respond to it?

              You really think you don’t have habs colored glasses? Remember when Cammalerri was better than Kessel? Briere better than Lupul?

              And no, with Reimer’s play now he shouldn’t be on the team. But when he was tops in the league in save percentage, why is it a crime to say he should be considered for the THIRD spot.

              Anyways, all I’m saying is stop trolling the leafs. It gets tiring hearing how incredible the habs are and how brutal our team is. You were no where to be found on this site when the habs were sitting at 500, and then you coming running in on your high horse after a hot streak.

        • leafy says:

          Lafleur, you know I like you, but often you don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • lafleur10 says:

            leafy you were the oone on here that sadi reimer for socchi not me i said he won’t even get consideration and is a long shot at best and after the way he’s playing right now you can’t say he deserves to be there or even mentioned in the same breath as price,loungo,smith the 3 goalies for team canada

            • leafy says:

              The performance of BOTH Reimer and Bernier is clear proof that goaltending is not a factor. The rubber these guys face game after game is staggering and it’s starting to show now in the GAA and save %.

              Do you really think Carey Price would have better numbers on the Leafs?

  8. LN91 says:

    “We take pride in being a team that doesn’t get outworked. Tonight we were outworked.” – Dion Phaneuf

    Am I missing something? Tonight you were outworked? How about being outworked for an entire season, except a game against LA, Anahiem, and Chicago. Ironically, three of the league’s best.

    • leafy says:

      Absolutely incredible he would say that. You sure it wasn’t some parody like OttawaGhost or someone like that?

    • leafmeister says:

      I wouldn’t give that caveman pocket change to come back here.

      • Gambo says:

        Hahahah i love it, Phaneuf plays amazing all year, has a bad game and guys like you come out from under the bridge and lose their shit. Gotta love Leafs fans. Even Weber has the odd bad game during an 82 game season. Phaneuf definitely isn’t perfect, but he’s the closest thing they have to a #1 defenseman and they aren’t easy to find.

        • leafmeister says:

          I’d say an equally damaging/true stereotype of Leafs fans is fawning over mediocre talent. Phaneuf is a bonehead who makes boneheaded plays, and will soon be payed even more money to do so. All the tools of a great defensemen except for the brains. A shame really, but somethings you just can’t teach.

          Phaneuf has played well for 30 games this year, I’ll give him that. Whattya know? Its a contract year! Almost like he did when he got the last deal, then decided to suck. Signing Phaneuf will be the biggest mistake this team can make.

          Just wait until he is shitting the bed next year at 7 mil per with a no movement clause. We’ll be longing for the days of Bryan McCabe.

          • reinjosh says:

            And I’d say an even more damaging stereotype is Leaf fans taking great players and picking out every mistake they make, making them whipping boys, and running them out of town. Phaneuf hasn’t just played great for 30 games, it’s been multiple seasons.

            Oh well, he’ll get run out of town, get paid the money he deserves (which is indeed the 7 million he’s asking for) and in less than a year Leaf fans will be crying how much they miss him while we go through yet another dissapointing season.

            • leafmeister says:

              Agree to disagree I suppose.

              I’d bet my house that the Leafs never get a sniff with Phaneuf as captain.

              • reinjosh says:

                I guess I don’t really have issue with your hate for Phaneuf. He makes boneheaded mistakes sometimes.

                I just have issue with people laying all of the blame on him, and saying he’s useless and a scrub. Neither are true or factual statements.

                • leafmeister says:

                  No certainly not all of the blame falls on him. However, as captain of a team that shows flashes of excellent play, but does not seem to have the mental strength to maintain it at any meaningful level, a great deal of blame has to go to the Captain and the coach. (as you point out)

                  Since Phaneuf became captain, this team has experienced a collapse every year, in one way or another. Under different coaches as well.

                  So I guess my problem with him is that he makes far too many boneheaded plays to be in the same price range as the elite d-men of the league, and his leadership certainly needs to be questioned.

                  If I were Nonis I wouldn’t even offer an extension. Chalk the Phaneuf era in T.O up as a loss, trade him for the most he will get, and build around Rielly and Gardiner, who are much more conducive to the team speed element that you correctly point out has brought the Leafs the most success.

        • mapleleafsfan says:

          I’m definitely not a Phaneuf hater, but those comments are a joke. Pride themselves in being a team that doesn’t get outworked? I guess we’re not a very proud team. If we worked as hard as the overachieving teams like Ottawa (last year), Florida, etc, we would be a really competitive team. Now we only show up for one period. It’s either a coaching or a leadership problem in my opinion.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            As I have said (many times lol), I think it’s more of a personnel problem.
            If Dion said that, he needs to re-think that one instead of just saying what the media coaches tell him to say.
            Dion is at his best when he plays a controlled nasty game. He has played well except the past couple of games where I believe here is trying to hard to make something happen to help the team out of it’s funk. He is trying to handle the puck too much which is not his game. If he wants to lead on the ice, then throw a big hit, that’s his game. It’s not stickhandling. He would be better suited for the second PP.IMO

            We need more grit! Guys like Raymond are fine pick ups, but we need intensity, grit, hardwork in the tough areas. We need to be tougher to play against.
            Think about our top 9
            JVR-big, a little grit
            Bozak-very little grit(injured)
            Kessel-spurts of hard compete in the corners, but not nightly
            Lupul- inconsistently gritty this year and oft injured
            Bolland-grity but injured
            Clarkson-gritty but suspended a lot
            Kadri- inconsistently gritty and still maturing(hopefully)
            Raymond-no grit
            Kulimen- inconsistent
            Top 9 subs
            Holland-little grit
            Smith-little grit
            Phaneuf-inconsistant grit
            Franson-little grit, I would like to see him lose his temper…just once.
            Gunnar-little grit
            Rielly-19 years old, enough said
            Gardiner-no grit
            Ranger-little grit
            Liles-little grit

            We make teams like Florida look good because of a low compete level and we are too easy to play against. Our toughest guys to play against are injured, suspended, 4th line or 5-7 D-men…that’s not good enough.
            I like Carlisle, but he needs to get this team motivated. Sit some vet guys and call up some kids who will work hard to make an impression…whatever needs to be done, but get them motivated. He needs to send a message.
            Do it now, while we are still in it.

            • reinjosh says:

              Honestly, we really don’t need more grit. I’m going to rant at ths idea and I want to apologize before hand.

              This is honestly the stupidest notion people have about this team. They always make some stupid comment about playing with the big team like LA or Boston and blah blah blah bullshit.

              The Leafs best asset is their speed. It always has been. We are one of the fastest teams in the league. That speed works incredibly well with the dmen on our team who move the puck. That’s why Franson was succesful, and why we play better when Gardiner/Rielly aren’t playing like they are trying to please a coach but rather playing their game. That’s why when Liles is playing his game, we actually seem to play better.

              And the results when we actually play that game? We beat the big bads like Boston and LA. That’s why we almost beat Boston last year. We didn’t play their game and try to beat them by toughness. We said “fuck that, we’ll just skate around you”.

              Whenever we try to add toughness, we go away from what makes us successful and we lose. Fraser slows this team down, Clarkson slows this team down.

              We need to stop trying to play Boston and LA’s game. It’s an asinine notion that we need to be tougher. We don’t. We need to start playing the game that we have success with. And it sure as fuck isn’t the toughness game.

              • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                Well Josh, no offense and I will apologize in advance for a return rant, but you couldn’t be more wrong. We don’t have enough talent to be strictly a speed team.
                A) you are confusing grit and toughness.
                I wrote “We need more grit! Guys like Raymond are fine pick ups, but we need intensity, grit, hardwork in the tough areas. We need to be tougher to play against.” How that means simply “tougher” I have no idea.
                No team has won the cup on speed alone in the cap era. The closest was Pitt, and they have Crosby and Malkin. We don’t have them and never will. They also had Orpik, Scuderi, cooke, Guerin, Talbot for instance. Go through the teams that have won post-cap era…Carolina-hardly a speed team, Anaheim – big, strong team, Detroit had Zett and Datsuyk, plus Draper, Maltby, McCarty, Holmstrom, Kromwall, Chelios, then Pitt(as mentioned), Chi, Bos, La, Chi. All those teams had a good balance. None were all speed.
                The stupid notion is that we should play a speed game only. We don’t have the same top end players like Chicago, Pitt, Det and therefore can’t play a speed game only. We don’t have Zetterberg and Datsuyk. We don’t have Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook. We don’t have Crosby, Malkin and Letang. We have more top end talent that is similar to Bos, LA.
                As for almost beating Boston…the biggest part of the collapse was that they kept hemming us in and controlling the puck. Our speed was useless because we couldn’t win puck battles. They took the game to us with more size, grit and determination then we had. They also out-played us and controlled the puck most of the series.
                This team played with speed at the start of the season and only won because our goalies stood on their heads, not because our speed won the games, we also capitalized on most of our chances…which were few. No one with any hockey sense thought that was going to continue forever. We won despite ourselves and were out-played most nights trying to be a “rush” team. What you are seeing is other teams have adjusted to our style and now we don’t look so fast.
                We need to start controlling the puck and winning more battles in both ends of the rink. We need to be tougher to play against. We need to be a more rounded team. Speed “sure as fuck” won’t solve that.

          • LN91 says:

            I agree…However, I’m starting to wonder if Phaneuf will shirk after he receives that contract. I think he will.

        • reinjosh says:

          This goes back to my post about patience…

          • LN91 says:

            Josh…You have to realize patience was flinged out the door by Nonis when he made all those moves this summer. If you do not see that, then you’re really becoming a MLSE puppet.

            A patient move by Nonis would have just added some small key players last offseason…And let Leaf nation know that they’re still building something great. However, he spent cap to the max and made moves to suggest that this was a contending squad.

            It completely backfired on him…He made on critical error. Am 82 game season > 48 game season.

  9. reinjosh says:

    I fucking hate Carlyle. I was never on board with hiring him, but I was willing to give him a shot. He’d won a cup so at least he’d done something right once upon a time.

    But I’m done with him. He’s brutal. Why the fuck is Mark Fraser back in the lineup and Liles out? This team cannot win without having a backend that can actually move the puck properly. Fraser can’t do that worth a damn. Fraser isn’t winning us games with his toughness.

    Why is he insisting on putting Franson/Phaneuf together on the powerplay? They haven’t looked good together. Why not try and switch it up a little, getting Gards with one and Rielly with the other?

    And why the hell is he giving Holland and Gardiner zilch time? They’ve been our better players over the last little while, and nailing their ass to the bench when they make the teensiest of mistakes is a great way to install confidence in them (sarcasm…).

    I’m friggin done with him. Injuries aren’t an excuse. Time to fire him.

    Fire Carlyle, bury Fraser, play Gardiner/Franson/Liles more, trade Franson.

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