Carter Signed!

The Flyers have signed Jeff Carter to a 3 year $15mil contract. More details are to follow. I believe they overpaid (just by a little). But in today’s RFA market, and teams offering big contracts, it was the right move for the Flyers.

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33 Responses to Carter Signed!

  1. Kramer says:

    I can't think of anything smart to say on this one.

  2. habswinthecup-again says:

     This is way too much, 3.5million would have been appropriate I think.

  3. pezzz says:

    that's not too much.

    he scored 30 goals playing on the 3rd line and having very little time on the PP. put him on a 1rst line and he's 40 goals, 80 points guy. and he's big, physical, gritty. man, you can't have a better package for 5 millions.

  4. UsedandAbused says:

    I don't know about that. The guy did put up 30 goals last year.

  5. UsedandAbused says:

    I think that is a fair price. People forget the salary cap has gone up alot from the initial cap. He is only making 9% of the cap. Not to bad for a guy that put up 30 goals on the 3rd line. Carter is a bit underrated and does alot of good things. He is still getting better as well.

  6. UsedandAbused says:

    Atleast you honest!  lol

  7. flyersfan10897 says:

    I think 3.5 would have been a good number.  3.5 million for 2 or 3 years would have been good.  He's making roughly the same as Ryan Getzlaf, Marc Savard, Eric Staal, Rick Nash, Alex Tanguay, Olli Jokinen, Martin St. Louis, and more than Derek Roy, Alex Kovalev, and Daniel Alfredsson.

    Saying he plays on the third line is no excuse.  Briere and Richards aren't going anywhere any time soon, so he's going to continue to get 2nd/3rd line time and 2nd PP unit time.  The Flyers aren't going to pay Upshall 4 million a year because he could score 30 goals and 30 assists if he played on the top two lines.

  8. UsedandAbused says:

    I think 3.5 would have been good for the salary cap 3 years ago. The cap now is almost at 60 million dollars, up about 17 million in three years. When the cap goes up so do players salaries. You are talking 9% of your cap for a guy that is improving year to year and put up 30 goals last year. I think what happens is people forget that the cap is much higher then it was just a short time ago.

  9. i_know_hockey says:

    woooo 5 million for a 50 points scorer!!! nice.
    Thats what…. $100,000 a point?? haha

  10. AHLoldie says:

    I said three years ago that Snider and the Flyers were one of the main reasons for the lockout.  This will drive salaries through the roof again.  Malkin is not allowed to sign until July 1st.  What do you think he'll want if this guy can get 5 Mil with 50 points?  The Flyers would have been much better off giving the 5 Mil to RJ, who will be a much better player in the long term.

  11. wec69 says:

    5 mill a year might be a bit high, but look at his upswing and it will be well worth it.  put yourselves in the shoes of a rival gm, how much of an offer sheet would you sign him to knowing that he will be highly sought after.   thoughts?????

  12. habswinthecup-again says:

     All the people that like this contract say look at his upside, it is huge! Well then Philly should have signed him for 5-7 years @ 5-6 million a year, the contract Philly gave him is stupid!

  13. Flyer_Fan_In_CT says:

    why is it stupid?

    3 years is short term enough that if the upside isnt reached you're not buried under the contract for say 12 years, and he will still be restricted after it is done.

  14. Promateus says:

    The point that was made was exactly what you didn't get: If you're going to give 5mil on a potential (rather than after what he's actually done), than it's standard risk management to extend the terms. Right now he's paid like he's a proven 5 mil close to reaching is peak and than starting the slow downhill ride. IMHO if you give 5 mil to a carter-type player, you'd want the 5 mil to attenuate with years and cap raising. Richards contract did just that, and that is a steal for the club. Then again, one need not necessarily sign for very long term all the time, but if the player want super-star money on potential alone (which, admittedly, he has), than 3 year is not a good move for the GM. If it turns out to be a fluke, you say, then we're gonna be happy with this short term, but that's not the point. The point is if there's a fluke probability, you're never supposed to give all that much in the first place. If the player refuses, than the team's opnly sensible option is to sign for longer term. I sure as hell hope that Gainey won't give 15 mil/3 years to Kostitin (same draft, same amount of point, great potential, will be sought after: these 2 look alike). If 4-5 mil it is that he wants, and habs don't want to lose him to an offer sheet, than i sure as hell hope the GM is gonna bet on the raising cap, and offer a 6-7 year contract, 'cause the team don't stand to gain anything, if he fullfill his potential, and loses some if he don't. On the other hand, on a long contract, than the team also stands to gain, not just losing (albeit the fluke is more costly, but in those case it is a remote possibility). Be happy, but don't delude yourself.

  15. habswinthecup-again says:

     Well said, thank you! As far as Kostytsin goes , I am hoping Bob signs him to a 7yr/35million or 2yr/8million contract. I would bet on the latter one tho.

  16. Archion113 says:

    I smell a whole lot of jealousy coming out….

    Carter wasnt great this year, but he really did step it up a notch. 5 million is a lot but it just goes to show you that the Flyers had no choice but to offer that much.  Which is why it was a short term deal. 

  17. teezer6969 says:

    Well that's a dumb move by the G.M …. I would never have signed J.CARTER to 5million for 3 years… If you sign a young player thats not worth 5million then you sign him for alot of years like M.RICHARDS.. I agree he will turn out to be a special player, but whats the use of 3 years you'll just have to pay him more next contract when he really is producing .. I for one would let a rival team offer him 5 million and let him go he isnt worth all the first round draft picks you get in return plus if a team like toronto would go for him you get a high draft picks for years to come plus a chance to get tavereas

  18. Flyer_Fan_In_CT says:

    first off i never said the contract was for potential.

    second, points alone dont demonstrate this guys worth. like richards, he is an every situation player. samething with umberger. columbus is gonna love him.

    id take carter over kostitsin on my team any day. as for gainey, we will see what he does and doesnt  do. he gave an awful lot of money out to kovalev a few years back. worked out ok but there were many left scratching their heads over that one. and % of overall cap is way less.

    if you want a stupid contract, look at briere's not carter's. i would do everything imaginable to unload that if i were holmgren. that guy plays no defense, and is very streaky. not to mention he had no chemistry with anyone except prospal who is gone…

  19. pezzz says:

    I think Campbell is gonna sign in Detroit

    They don't have enough depth at D with Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Lebda, Lilja, Chelios, Quincey, Ericsson, & cie. they obviously need a PP quarterback.

    also, I'm 100% sure Brendan Morrison and Sergei Fedorov will sign in Pittsburgh. Crosby, Malkin, Staal and Talbot are nothing. it's urgent they find depth down the middle. and I think they could trade Sykora and Fleury for Peter Stastny. they have too much depth on the wings and in goal, and not enough on center as I said before.

  20. flyersfan10897 says:

    Thats the only reason i can understand giving this much. They figured another GM would give him at least 4 or 4.5, so they wanted to eliminate the threat early.

  21. flyersfan10897 says:

    i know this is all a joke, but…

    what team are they going to trade with to get peter stastny??

  22. pezzz says:

    PAUL Stastny, of course!

    don't you know how to read?????

    lol 😛

  23. AHLoldie says:

    Think abou it.  Last year, Prospal had 33 goals and finished with 71 points.  The Flyers let him go, and sign Carter who had 30 goals and finished with fewer points for 5 Mil while Prospal re-signs with the Stars for 4 Mil.  They probably could've re-signed them both for 2 years at 15 Mil.

  24. big_booty says:

    I look at it this way:

    If Bob Gainey or Glen Sather or Jay Feaster or Cliff Fletcher were to submit a three-year $15 million deal to Carter's agent on July 1, each one of them would have been hailed as a genius.  Their fans would have lauded the move and they'd be saying how great Carter's going to be for their team.

    Those who think that Paul Holmgren shit the bed by paying Carter this much obviously have some smartening up to do.  Holmgren is no dummy – he proved that last off-season.  He did the right thing.

    Carter's production, given his third-line status and lack of power play time, warrants this type of payday.

  25. jonnygf40 says:

    Yes but he's not in his prime yet.  He's only 22 years old.  What do you think he's going to put up next year and the year after.  This guy is going to be an 80 point player, and then you will all be eating your words.   And I'm not even a Flyer fan.

  26. UsedandAbused says:

    Ya but alot of you are forgetting that the cap has gone up over 17 million in 3 years. Paying a guy 5 million a year is not like paying someone 3 years ago. 5 million is only 9% of the cap now. For one of your rising stars, that isn't that bad of a deal.

  27. pezzz says:

    Think about it. Prospal played all the year with Lecavalier and St Louis on the 1rst line, while Carter was playing with Upshall and Knuble on the 3rd line. Prospal was having premium power play minutes, while Carter had almost none. Carter is 23, Prospal is 33. Carter is big, physical, and future captain (if Mike Richards was not there). Carter is a center, excellent at faceoffs.

    think about it.

  28. Kramer says:

    I can't wait for July 1.  I'm gonna stay up all night and drink ginger beer.

  29. oilcountry88 says:

    How is there no article yet on the Roberts Malone trade?

  30. AHLoldie says:

    You missed my point.  You could have had them both.  The second point was…You get paid for results not potential.

  31. AHLoldie says:

    Here we go again….Another poster wanting to pay 5 Mil for potential.  Every player in the NHL has potential.  What do we do?

  32. AHLoldie says:

    Probably because nobody believes that anybody would be stupid enough to give Malone 5 Mil per year.  Ooops I forgot about the Flyers.

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