Clarifying the Rangers Trade Talks

I noticed too much confusion over this. People mentioning too many names, not getting the trade talks right, and looking too much at one side. So, who do I blame? Well, The Score will never gain my trust, and it certainly deserves to be known as a…….……..very low rank news source, and same goes for RDS.

Both these sources have pulled way too many false information and they make too many mistakes where they then must fix them. Of course, it’s a +/- strategy in a sense that the plus gets everyone hyped and go check out their site, the negative being that they made the mistake.

So anyway, what happened?

The Score reported that the Rangers acquired Jagr. Another source, may have been RDS, also claimed that they may have acquired Brendan Witt as well.

Anyway, these are the kinds of reactions I’ve seen by certain HTR members:

They need to just GET THIS OVER WITH. Sather is about to get fired if something doesn’t happen almost immediately, and it’d be smarter to take Witt over Gonchar if they’re going after a defenseman too, they have enough guys that won’t play in their defensive zone.

Yeah, they do have to get this over with. It’s starting to get on my nerves! I am sick of hearign Jagr to Rangers when it’s not happening. I don’t like Jagr’s personality, but I like what he can do when he plays with skilled players, and especially when he is motivated to play. Take the very missed Pavel Bure…..the guy gave it his all with the Rangers when he was healthy, he even made some beautiful back-checking. Bure back-checking? Not saying Jagr will do that. All I am saying is that Jagr clearly expected and wanted to be a Ranger three summers ago, would love to play with Kovalev, Nedved, Hlavac and Rucinsky. I think he will know his role on the Rangers and he’ll do his job.

That’s why I’d want the guy. He also makes players around him better. He is capable of changing the Rangers power play, which is a major need.

Anyway, the Rangers were never this close in a playoff race at this point of the season in previous years. Even though they are about to go under .500 tonight, they are still close. I don’t think he’s going to get fired, unless the Rangers lose the next 5 games.

get rid of hlavac and carter…getting rid of 2 guys that have been in the doghouse all year and getting that superstar they dont have in bure.

Well, getting Jagr means it’s actually better to keep Hlavac. Though he has not produced much, he is trying. Carter on the other hand……..who would have expected this out of him? I hope he gets traded soon, for a defenseman.

If I were George McPhee, and the Rangers wanted both Jagr and Gonchar/Witt, I’d settle for nothing less than Jamie Lundmark, Garth Murray and another player. Given the youth that McPhee gave up to get Jagr, now he’s got to get some of that back in dealing Jagr. And it looks like it’s gonna be at the expense of Slats and the Rangers.

Fat chance, that ain’t happening. Maybe Lundmark if Witt is in the deal, but it’s not going to be two prospects.

Not again!

Your telling me!

Caps, Witt, Jagr, Pick or kip miller.

NYR Kovie, Carter, and one of Tjutin, Moore, or Murray

Kip Miller? What good is he? Kovalev is not getting traded to an Eastern Conference team, unless it’s the Maple Leafs. Also, Caps have no use in Kovalev, they are done for playoff hopes. Carter? Absolutely. Tjutin? Untouchable. Moore? Meh…maybe and the only reason why I’d see Moore traded is because he is still not fitting in well in the AHL and may be raising doubts. Murray? He is not 100% healthy, missed a lot last season as he played through many games with an abdominal injury, production is slowing down, but he is a beast.

I think it will be a better, but quite similar, deal as to the one with Kovalev in Pittsburgh.

Let me get this straight, the Rangers are without Poti, DeVries and Kasparitis and they still want Jagr?

First of all, it’s a rumor and it was denied by Sather as well. Second, Sather has been saying for a few days that he’s looking for defensemen. That’ll help you get things straight!

I read elsewhere that the Rangers have nothing else other than Tjutin in the farm system. Stupid statement. First of all, the Hartford Wolfpack are the second best defensive team in the AHL because of the new staff, the new system that Renney has installed in the Youth Program, and because of how the Rangers are building their system. Lampman is also not 100% healthy. Nycholat (NYR traded Johan Holmqvist to Wild for Nycholat) is the team’s top defenseman and he was called up, but made a horrible rookie mistake on the PP. Matt Kinch is also not 100% and same goes with Jakopin.

So, they have the guys to call up, except they are not healthy, Hartford is also going through tough times with injuries.

Has everyone got this then? The rumor was about Jagr and maybe Witt. They still may be discussing such a trade, and why not? Why not get an excellent stay at home defenseman and an all-star forward for quite a low price? So….it may still happen.

Away from the denied rumor is Sather saying he wants two defensemen. He’s been saying that since the begining of this week. A lot of defensemen are available, it just comes down to the right price and obviously Carter is the best trade bait.

Me personally, I’d like defensemen such as Jason Smith, Norstrom, Hannan, Matvichuk, Vishnevski….

Anyway…..do not trust The Score, do not trust RDS either. Not expecting much of a discussion about the actual trades and Jagr, I just wanted to clarify things. Thanks for reading though


71 Responses to Clarifying the Rangers Trade Talks

  1. Bishop7979 says:

    When you have Kovalev on your team the phrase we need a finisher shouldnt really need to be uttered, unless he is wearing a ranger uniform.

    The problem isnt that the team doesnt have a finisher, or that it doesnt have Jagr. The problem is that the rangers have an air about them, a country club, lack of accountability that just takes the drive to succeed from players and makes it evaporate into thin air. When you can throw a team out on the ice that consists of Poti, Leech, Lindros, Kovalev, Carter, Messier, Ruchinsky and Nedved scoring should not be a problem.

    But passion, hard work, disapline (and I dont just mean in reguards to PIMs) pride, chemistry these are the things that are lacking from the team.

    The Rangers have a great finisher, Kovalev, but he looks like a shell of his former self, theyve had finishers in the past, Bure and Fluery come to mind. they’ve had high payroll star filled rosters, and its not gotten them into that last playoff spot.

    The rangers dont need Jagr. They need a competitor, they need a Boughner, a Witt, they need a Dale Hunter or a Ken Danyko, they need a guy to get the team, as a whole over the hump and into the playoffs, not one guy trying to get himself over it.

    They need some team unity, that and a good honest defensman to help hold the fort till injuries clear up.

  2. Lint07 says:

    RDS being a Montreal network ARE RIGHT 95% of the time about Habs and Sens rumors.

    Other than that they pretty much translate TSN news.

    So when you hear about a Habs rumor and you see RDS beside it, it means IT IS going to happen. Anything else you flip a coin and that’s about the same thing.

  3. Bishop7979 says:

    yeah well my response to that is, in my opinion, edmonton is more aware of the little contributions that guys like smith and york make than the rangers are.

    if that makes any sense.

    To the rangers its stats, and the playoffs, and the here and now. Theres a desperation in new york that makes these things so much more imporatant than the intangibles.

    In edmonton, due to their budget restraints, skill and character (if thats the right word for it) are equally important. Its why theyve made the playoffs over the last few years while the rangers have been playing golf. And they do it for about half the payroll

  4. Beckfan5 says:

    This is so true man. Why do they always give up those type of players year after year? The Mike Knubles, Tim Taylors, Mike Eastwoods, Ronald Petrovitchkys?, Brad Browns ect. I can keep going and going. But theyll always go for the Bures and Kamenskys and Jagrs and these guys dont help them make it to the playoffs. Hello? Are we fans missing something here?

    Ya know, we say every year that they need an big tough D-man to play w/ Leetch and they still go out and get a flimsy offencive D-man to play with him. Its bullshit. Dose the management know something we dont? Apperntly not. They just keep fucking up year after year and we suffer.

    And your right about the finnishers on the current team. They shouldnt need a Jagr when you have the likes off Kovalev, Nedved, Carter, Ruchinsky, Lindros, Leetch and Poti. Thats sad when they want to aquire Jagr when NONE of those guys are scoreing. Pathetic.

    THANKS SATHER!!!!!!

  5. GretzNYR99 says:

    I love how you talk to me, you’re just like every other Ranger basher, you think all of their fans are idiots who just want the big names, and this and that. You think that Sather is the idiot behind here, but it’s really Jim Dolan, the owner, who tells him to go out and get every big name. Instead of judging the book by the cover, how about you get the facts straight about me?

  6. GretzNYR99 says:

    And as long as there are people like you who post blatantly stupid quips and remarks like that, we’ll have HTR.

    Have a nice day!

  7. GretzNYR99 says:

    First of all, that country club bullshit, enough. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    I agree about the lack of accountability, and that’s Sather’s problem. He said when he took over that there would be more accountability on this team. Players would be accountable for their actions, people would get benched if they didn’t show up, and apparently, that hasn’t happened. We need more of a hardass of a coach here. But to say that it’s a country club type of environment? Na, that’s not gonna fly.

    Kovalev just can’t handle NY. He couldn’t the first time around. The best hockey he played in NY was in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs with Larmer and Matteau. From there on, he was almost non-existant.

    No shit we need a competitor, but we ALSO need someone to step up and score goals. We ALSO need a coach who will be somewhat of a disciplinarian. I see Jagr as both helpful and detrimental to the team at the same time. I know he’ll score goals, but with his non-existant defensive play, he’ll help let up a lot. Sather is trying to get Brendan Witt in the deal. I’ve stressed all year that we’ve needed a crease-clearing defenseman. A big physical defensive defenseman. I know what we need and we don’t need. I hate to say it, but Jagr is the last resort. I don’t think Dallas is going to deal Guerin, being that he’s scored good numbers, and I don’t think Carolina will deal Jeff O’Neill to the Rangers. Jagr to me was a last resort, and it seems that Sather is desperate to keep his job, and Jim Dolan is hounding him to get a big name again. If we had smarter, better, and more fiscally responsible ownership in NY, we’d be a playoff team. Look at Sather in Edmonton.

  8. GretzNYR99 says:

    First of all, that country club bullshit, enough. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    I agree about the lack of accountability, and that’s Sather’s problem. He said when he took over that there would be more accountability on this team. Players would be accountable for their actions, people would get benched if they didn’t show up, and apparently, that hasn’t happened. We need more of a hardass of a coach here. But to say that it’s a country club type of environment? Na, that’s not gonna fly.

    Kovalev just can’t handle NY. He couldn’t the first time around. The best hockey he played in NY was in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs with Larmer and Matteau. From there on, he was almost non-existant.

    No shit we need a competitor, but we ALSO need someone to step up and score goals. We ALSO need a coach who will be somewhat of a disciplinarian. I see Jagr as both helpful and detrimental to the team at the same time. I know he’ll score goals, but with his non-existant defensive play, he’ll help let up a lot. Sather is trying to get Brendan Witt in the deal. I’ve stressed all year that we’ve needed a crease-clearing defenseman. A big physical defensive defenseman. I know what we need and we don’t need. I hate to say it, but Jagr is the last resort. I don’t think Dallas is going to deal Guerin, being that he’s scored good numbers, and I don’t think Carolina will deal Jeff O’Neill to the Rangers. Jagr to me was a last resort, and it seems that Sather is desperate to keep his job, and Jim Dolan is hounding him to get a big name again. If we had smarter, better, and more fiscally responsible ownership in NY, we’d be a playoff team. Look at Sather in Edmonton.

  9. devfanman4 says:

    Wasn’t Bure supposed to be a savior too? and Fleury?

  10. aafiv says:

    I sure do hope this happens.

    It will be the best thing for the Flyers, Devils, Isles, and Pens – it will go down in history as the “last-nail-in-the-coffin” trade.

    Why?

    1.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need chemistry and this will not help.

    2.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need a coach.

    3.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need a GM.

    4.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need to make the playoffs just once and this won’t help.

    5.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need LESS selfish garbage in the room.

    6.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, they need a way to survive under the cap that’s going into effect in the next CBA and this won’t help.

    7.) The Rangers don’t need Jaromir Jagr, but what they desparately need is a CLUE.

    Watching the Rangers is like watching a six-year long train wreck… and it’s not getting better.

  11. TheJudge says:

    Shut your mouth idiot, you have nothing better to talk about because your hockey knowledge does not expand further than your own team.

  12. TheJudge says:

    Listen to all of you run your mouths.You Ranger fans have been ripped and ripped for weeks. When are you going to get it that you are just as worthless as your team? Maybe all of you can be included in a trade for a bag of used condoms and tampons!

  13. big_booty says:

    At least someone appreciates it.

  14. TheJudge says:

    Hey numbnuts, i didn’t know your name was mikster. Why don’t you mind your own business and stop trying to be a witty comedian because you are the furthest thing from it. No wonder no one likes you on this site

  15. TheJudge says:

    Why don’t you drink some draino, then the articles will stop, that would really help!

  16. TheJudge says:

    What a joke, look at your name GretzNYR99, I bet you have never even played hockey before. you might as well be G.I. Joe.

  17. TheJudge says:

    As long as there are people like you who bore the hell out of HTR, we’ll need advil.

  18. TheJudge says:

    knobgobbler anyone??

  19. GretzNYR99 says:

    You should really talk, you’re probably some HTR regular on another name starting up crap with people. What a life you have.

  20. GretzNYR99 says:

    You really need a life, your whole purpose on this site is to attempt to insult and offend me. Says a lot about you. You’re one of those kids who’s an insult monger on the computer, but offline, you wouldn’t say a word, you’d get beaten like a red-headed stepchild. You’re pathetic.

  21. rojoke says:

    Jagr for Carter? What can I say, I was wrong. Not even a draft pick? A 2nd or 3rd rounder? A conditional pick? But even you have to admit, it wasn’t fair value

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