Clarke reveals details.

Sportsnet.ca is reporting Gagne is greedy.

Philadephia Flyers GM Bob Clarke has divulged that Simon Gagne’s agent, Bob Sauve, had turned down two offers for $5 million a year.

“We offered Simon $5 million a year for four years and $5 million a year for five years,” Clarke said in the Philadelphia Inquirer. “We haven’t been unfair to Simon Gagne. The statistics and everything else back it up. We didn’t just pull these numbers out of the air. We did it professionally.”

Sauve said Tuesday he would prefer three years and indicated there was mutual agreement there. Clarke said otherwise.

“We have not talked three years,” Clarke said. “Would we go three? We might but not for $5 million. If we’re going to go that high [in dollars], we need to get some years out of it.”

Sauve was unhappy that Clarke went public with his two offers. Gagne was reportedly upset, as well.


29 Responses to Clarke reveals details.

  1. markjohnston says:

    ya, boo hoo.

    someone offered me 5 million a year to play hockey today and I’m really broken up about it.

  2. Gagne1286 says:

    I believe Clarke has made a very fair offer to Gagne. Don’t get me wrong Simon Gagne is my favorite player, but I dont believe he’s worth more then 5 million a year. His number with Forsberg in the lineup and without him were drastically different.

    With Forsberg: 51 Games 37 Goals .73 Goals a Game

    Without Forsberg: 21 Games 9 Goals .43 Goals a Game

    I believe anyone who plays besides Forsberg thier numbers would look pretty nice. Then again, Gagne has the speed and smarts to compliment Forsberg, and he’s a natural finisher. Hopefully they can reach an agreement and get Gagne in camp ASAP.

  3. Lint07 says:

    The comparison used for Gagne contract by the Flyers is Alex Tanguay… which seems fair to me.

  4. Jrugges says:

    I’m not gonna feel to sorry for him, I consider Gange very good, But I consider Zetterberg better, and he’s only making 2.5 mill, Zetttberg will most likely demand more around the 3 or 4 mill mark, but its clear 5 mill should be more than enough for what Gange’s value is.

    I consider Tanguey, Ovechkin, Kayria, and Zetterberg the top Leftwingers in the game. None of which are making much more than 5 million. No wonder why they where upset to hear he went public.

  5. CaptainInsano says:

    Yeah, I guess Kovalchuk is a worthless and steaming heap of crap?

  6. CaptainInsano says:

    Agree completely … what did Havlat get from the Hawks, like 6 million, for being on the IR all year?

    Gagne deserves 5-6 million easily.

  7. habswinthecup-again says:

    I cannot believe I am saying this, but if those numbers are correct then I have to side with Clarke(something I have never done before). Gagne has had 1 real good year yet wants to be paid more than Tanguay(who has had 3 real good years). Also, and correct me if I am wrong since I do not follow the Flyers too closely but was his production not way down when Forsberg was not playing?

  8. passionch says:

    5M is just the right amount for a player like Gagne. Maybe he has intention of playing elsewhere so he doesn’t want a longer contract than 3 years but the salary is fine alright.

  9. kamullia says:

    $5M/year sounds fair to me, and you could even say that it is overpaying if you consider that it is the first season he has those kind of numbers, and also that his numbers change considerably when Forsberg is not in the lineup.

    On the other hand it is hard to make a point that he won’t be worth that kind of money (or more) in the future.

    Gagne seem adamant to get the big money. If not, I would not see anything wrong with settling for a one-year contract in the $4M range with the understanding that if he puts the numbers again, Clarke will offer $6M/year on the next contract.

  10. kamullia says:

    Clarke was quoted saying that they agree on length, just not money.

  11. Jrugges says:

    Kovalchuk? (Score: 1)

    by CaptainInsano on Thursday, September 07 @ 18:02:11 EDT

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    Yeah, I guess Kovalchuk is a worthless and steaming heap of crap?

    Actually I just forgot him, Thanks for being Rude, Its people like you that are the real winners in the world.

  12. habs_win_cup_2007 says:

    The deal is, is that the money is where he wants it, and im sure that if it was a bit smaller he probally would still take it, its that he just doesnt want to sign a long term deal. He probally wants to play somewhere else in the future so we really cant knock him for that…….although if somebody offered me 5 mill to play hockey in long island i would take it in a sec!!!

  13. wingerxxx says:

    It’s hard not to side with Clarke on this one. 5 years for $5 mil per season is awfully generous for someone who clearly benefitted from playing with Peter Forsberg last year.

    I can’t really blame Clarke for letting this go public. He’s got to be beyond frustrated with how this whole thing is playing out. $5 mil for 3 years would be fairly ludicrous, so again, it’s hard not to side with Clarke, as far as the dollar amount of the proposals go.

  14. N25philly says:

    If Gagne had half a brain in his head, he would be signed, and he would have ended the negotiations by giving Clarke a happy ending, because he not worth 5 million. I wouldn’t pay him a penny over 4, and I still think that’s a bit much.

  15. flyerjim says:

    Clarke had to go public….the media is huge leverage for the Sauve side of things. A lot of fans hate Clarke and up until this point, probably thought he was *****ing this deal up. Gagne is worth no more than $5 mil…any team willing to give him more is grossly overpaying.

    Gagne originally wanted $4.5 and 4-5 yrs (according to TFP.com).

    What happened there??? A greedy player agent! These guys and a few brainless GMs out there is what screwed the league before…this time it will be the players that get screwed. The cap has managed to keep quality guys from being signed AND (over)paid already, due to poor signings last year and this year.

    I still think this deal is going to get done, probably for 4 years. Gagne will be Cpt. when Primeau finally figures out that the voices he hears are in his smashed melon of a head, and everything will be back to normal….you know- Clarke is a retard for signing Hatcher and Rathje, Forsberg is too injury prone, yada yada yada.

  16. BryanWay says:

    I know how much you want Gagne on the Habs… not going to happen. Both sides have agreed that they want a long-term contract, and if Gagne wanted to play for another team he could have just gone to arbitration. He has said repeatedly that he wants to play for the Flyers. I’m hoping Gagne pulls a Gaborik, fires his agent, and negotiates himself.

  17. Flyers_Fan_In_LA says:

    Bob Sauve and Gagne are making a mistake. Clarke doesn’t take kindly to these kind of antics. Gagne trying to get an extra $250,000 per year out of Clarke is keeping the Hall of Famer (Clarke not Gagne) from making his team the best it can be with FAs.

    The issue at hand is with Gagne – Clarke will remember the way this deal went down. That isn’t good for Gagne. In the event the Flyers get a chance to trade him – you watch Clarke will do it when if this ended up being a fair deal in the ballpark of Tanguay then Gagne would be groomed to wear the C like Clarke did.

    Much like TO – the small difference in the money the player is asking for can be easily made up by endorsments in Philly. A contract holdout doesn’t make friends or influence people in Philly whatsoever.

    Another note: it was the arrival of Forsberg that made Gagne a star. Forsberg isn’t signed for next year although they are trying. I could see how a 3 year deal would be better because Gagne is only worth 5 mill with Forsberg dishing him the puck…

  18. FlamingHomer says:

    Just heard a rumour on the Fan 960- Vancouver’s Markus Naslund for Gagne. Forsberg and Naslund are well known to be good friends. Possible?

  19. FlamingHomer says:

    Too much work to look it up. What is the gist off it?

  20. TheDonkey says:

    Agreed. I hate sites that force you to sign up before you can even read them. What is the gist?

  21. Andy-O says:

    This is the first time in histoy that I am siding with Clarke!!!!

  22. JannettyTheRocker says:

    Trade Gagne to Edmonton…………we can use another 20+ goal scorer (haha)……..

  23. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    how many years has gagne had in the nhl and how many of them has he scored 35 or more. i think its around 6 years and only 1 year with 35 or more. Gagne is getting to greedy.

  24. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    Tanguay can play though he has had consistent years at the top of the nhl scoring list. has gagne?

  25. FlamingHomer says:

    I guess BruMagnus had to dash back to the Food Court and flip the burgers. He’s too busy to get back to us.

  26. FlamingHomer says:

    If you want 20 goals you better be willing to bring Forsberg along in the trade, too.

  27. habs_win_cup_2007 says:

    Dont get me wrong, i would love for gagne to be on the habs, and its becuase hes great, not because hes french, I aint french so i dont care about that, but it aint gonna happin without ALOT of moving around to the team already. As everybody knows the habs have way to many small wingers, and we need a big centre. So it would be pointless to get him, which is the reason why we didnt sign dumont.

  28. BruMagnus says:

    sorry, the reported rumors usually included either Kesler or Cooke in the trade with Naslund, seeing Gagne and Carter going the other way.

    Clearly a trade that disadvantages the Flyers, as Jeff Carter will be a future first line center, or at worst a very good second line center.

    The reason that trade hasn’t gone through is because Clarke isn’t an idiot and doesn’t want to give up Carter in the deal. However, it was he that was interested in Naslund to bring over to play with Forsberg. They’re buddies that grew up in the same city and would be a magical combination. Nonis is just entertaining ideas, so it would take a lot to get Naslund. As it stands, he’ll wait to see how the season starts, with Nazzy as the Captain, and go from there. Some of the speculation says that the trade won’t happen until a few weeks into the season, which seems odd… but this rumor has been around for ages.

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