Comments on: Could Ruutu be going to Nashville?

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:27:11 +0000

I got Malkin, Toews, Elias, Lupul, Bergeron, Seguin, Eberle, and Pominville as my forwards.

So the only real loser I have is Pominville...Loser.

By: MystifoLeafs

MystifoLeafs — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 16:37:52 +0000

I love it. I remember when people were questioning if Malkin is still the guy who can put up 100 points in a season and be that big time player. My favorite part is where I have Malkin and Neal on my Fantasy team.

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:48:19 +0000

Good for me, he's on my fantasy team.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:54:35 +0000

haha .. fair enough. Better than nothing? I guess its a good thing to complain about when you get Geno at 110% for 10 minutes in a game Cant be all that bad off eh?

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:53:42 +0000

Fair enough. I suppose you could at least say that showing up for ten minutes is better than not showing up at all. But yeah that is entirely maddening.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:52:27 +0000

I disagree. Your best player(s) need to be able to play full games once in awhile. No one, except for the 4th liners, can do that on the Pens. They coast WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too much. Its so maddening.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:41:05 +0000

But that is why Malkin is so good this year. He comes out when it matters and helps the team the most when they need it, even if he has a completely bad 50 minutes prior.

And yeah I'll complain about the goal, but its hockey. bad calls happen and you can't do much about it.

I hope the Leafs take it tonight.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:39:00 +0000

Yeah but you have to remember that hockey is more than a sport. At the end of the day it is a business and a business decision will be made over any hockey decision. If the ownership thinks that Parise will bring them more cash, they will tell Lou to keep him, as making the playoffs migth be easier with him than without.

I don't Think that's a terrible price for Nashville. However I do think the assets could be better spent elsewhere. That's a big price to pay for a couple games and no guarantee of getting Parise signed. I don't think Nashville can afford to give that up without a guarantee. They won't make another Forsberg move, I don't think. I think they would rather spend those assets on a player that is signed long term. If Suter is good friends with Parise, then it would make more sense to go after someone else (let me explain :P)

Getting someone who is signed on longer (like a Carter or a Ryan) would show Suter and Weber that they really do mean to be a cup competitive team. That leads to Suter and Weber signing. Then that makes it more attractive to potential FA's and in particular Parise.

Although the big factor in this is money. Parise is likely to get 6 - 7 million. Naashville has said they intend to spend up to the cap but can they spend 6 - 7 million on 4 separate players? Can any team do that without being to top heavy? Having 25ish million dollars (I'm rounding down) tied up in 4 players could be an issue.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:25:55 +0000

I agree but there is a point where you have to cut your loses. I'm ok with NJ going after Boullion or Josi if they prefer them but Ellis is playing in the NHL right now and performing well so with this deal NJ gets 4 players that not only can play right now but can also will be a huge part of their future. And with NJ losing a 1st round pick this year or next (Kovalchuk penalty), NJ needs these prospects badly. It is a risk but even with Parise they could miss the playoffs.

The only other thing NJ can do if they want to keep Parise is to let Salvador go and trade Elias in the off season for picks or nothing. But if NJ cannot find a buyer for Elias' contract, they wont be able to re-sign Parise. (and I think letting Parise go for nothing would be a huge mistake for the organization.)

All that being said, do you think that Nashville would be giving up too much josh?

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:02:10 +0000

Indeed. Geno had a rough game last night but came up big at the end. Fleury, despite giving up 4 goals, absolutely won them that game. If not for some out of this world saves, it would have EASILY been 6-1 after two. It was brutal.

HOWEVER, the Pens TOTALLY should have lost that game. They were completely dominated. It was unreal. The defensive coverage was abysmal. How many breakaways or 2 on 1's were the Leafs handed? Jesus.

Also, that goal that was disallowed was ridiculous. Im not one to complain about the refs because I truly believe that, at the end of the day, these things even out at the end of the year but that was bad. Really bad.

I dont think lightening will strike twice. If the Pens play like that again tonight, the Leafs will definitely take this one.