Could the Ducks trade Selanne at the Deadline?

With each passing day it’s becoming pretty obvious the Anaheim Ducks won’t be a playoff team this season.

Not exactly the way Teemu Selanne had envisioned ending his career, if this is in fact the last season for the 41-year-old winger.

Which brings us to a question a lot of people are beginning to ask: Could Selanne find himself on a contender come the Feb. 27 trade deadline?

“No, he’s retiring a Duck and that’s the way it’s going to be,” Ducks GM Bob Murray told on Tuesday. “But the way he’s playing, why should he retire?”

Murray, meanwhile, took winger Bobby Ryan off the trade market earlier this month when he instead fired head coach Randy Carlyle in the hope that a shake-up would turn around Anaheim’s season.

The turnaround hasn’t happened. My guess is that if the Ducks are still near the basement come February, Murray will begin to listen on offers for Ryan again.

30 Responses to Could the Ducks trade Selanne at the Deadline?

  1. hockey_lover says:

    With the loyalty that Teemu has shown the Ducks, it would be the biggest slap in the face if he got traded at the deadline.

    The only way Teemu gets traded is if he asks for it and I do not see that happen at all.

  2. reinjosh says:

    I'm pretty sure he has an NTC so he's really only moving if he wants to move. 

  3. Steven_Leafs says:

    If Anaheim are at the bottom of the league at the deadline he should request a deal. On the other hand though if he wants to stay put even though they are losing it's his call. If you do not want a player to refuse to waive his NTC when your clearly out of the playoff race, do not give him a full NTC.

  4. TheLeafNation91 says:

    I highly doubt it. I actually think its stupid to suggest it.

    I think the only reason Selanne is still playing is for the Anaheim Ducks faithful. He built this franchise, they love him, they looked good coming into the season and could have contended…But they crashed.

    Due to the state of the team, I'm 90% positive he will retire this year. He will retire a Duck…It's how it should be and he should really retire where his career actually had meaning and where he's adored. 

    A DUCK…Not a stupid Jet, but a Duck.

  5. mapleleafsfan says:

    Yep, absolutely no way he gets traded. If/when the ducks miss the playoffs he'll play the WC for finland and then probably retire. Even if he doesn't retire he's staying a duck. I hope he doesn't retire, still a PPG player. Age is just a number, if you're still producing/enjoying it who cares. Unless he is really starting to tire.

  6. MystifoLeafs says:

    His choice. If he wants another shot at the cup he can say to Murray I want to go to a true playoff contender if he rather just play in the WC then he stays a Duck. He has a NMC so he gets to choose what he does. On a side note if he did choose to be traded what would he get in return? I am thinking at least a first round draft pick.

  7. JoelLeafs says:

    Can we talk about the situation in Montreal for a bit?

    Seriously, they are imploding in every way. Brutal GM, every French Canadian hates the coach, insane amounts of cap space tied up in second rate players for years to come, completely inexperience D-corps most of the year, youngsters struggling, no assets to help secure picks for a rebuild, and can't seem to buy a win lately. 7

    At first I found it funny, but this is getting messed up. How long will it take for this team to rebuild. Can you imagine where they would be without Price this season? maybe 8 wins? I honestly don't see a way of turning this around. I can realistically see them missing the playoffs for years to come.

    Good time to be a Leafs fan…

  8. Steven_Leafs says:

    yeah they have a few bad contracts that all expire 2 years after this season. All they have to do is dump Gomez's contract (easier said than done unfortunately). If they do, they will be able to resign all of their UFA/RFAs and maybe even afford another player to replace Gomez. Not much of an improvement but they do have young assets that can give them a better shot next season.

    Of course if they cannot straight up dump Gomez's contract they will have to buy him out (funny thing is re-entry waivers is cheaper for them cash and cap wise). Buying him out pretty much gives Montreal the cap space to re-sign almost every UFA/RFA they have. Not really an improvement at all.

    I'm a bit curious to see what they do in the next 2-3 months.

  9. JoelLeafs says:

    Well I think they will be in rough shape in the next few years. Gomez, Cammalleri, Pleks, Markov, and Kaberle all have big dollar contracts that extend past next season, meanwhile the Habs have to resign or replace Gorges, Gill, Subban, Price, and Deharnais next year. Some of those guys are going to be coming into pretty impressive raises as well.

    Unless some miracle happens, this team is in trouble. To deepen the worry, when the city and fans are against the team it hurts their morale and no one will argue that the fans are happy with the organization at present.

    Just a mess.

  10. reinjosh says:

    It is a bad situation. As a Leafs fan with far to many friends making fun of them for years (and those friends being Habs fans), I want to throw it in their face but I feel bad lol.

    Honestly they need a GM that will get machiavellian with the team. Demote Gomez, get something, anything for Gionta and Cammy (someone will give something). I'm sure they can get something back for them. Even if its a mid range pick or half deent propect and a salary dump its better than what they have.
    Flip AK for something nice. I'm sure a lot of teams would give up something good for a 6 foot 3 power forward whose consistently hit 20 goals. Cole could be a piece moving forward but see if you can pawn him off on a team like Florida. They could use a big body winger and the price for him would't be terribly high. A 2nd rounder and a decent prospect with no cap space coming back? Florida could easily give that without hurting the rebuild. Hell they could probably give a first no problem. 
    If they can get the balls to demote Gomez, figure a way to move one or two of Cole, Gionta, Cammy (preferable Cole last), things would actually be looking up for them. 
    The biggest issues they face right now is that they have to much tied up in players that aren't worth it. If Markov retires (it could happen really soon) their defense isn't actually terrible. Only Kaberle would remain after this season as the only overpaid guy. They would just have to fix the forward crap. 
    The issues are bad but they aren't terrible. With pacioretty, Leblanc, Subban, Price and Eller on the team, they have a good core of youngsters to build the future team around. Add in Beaulieu and Tinordi on defense and a top 10 pick (possibly top 5) in the upcoming draft and they have some nice potential moving forward. They just need to get rid of two or three of Gionta, Gomez, Markov, Kaberle or Cammy some way or another. 
  11. 420xLEAFS says:

    If the Ducks are 100% out of playoffs at the trade deadline and the Jets are looking like a lock then its very possible he goes for a run for the cup IF he plans on retiring.

    He actually really likes winnipeg, minus the weather haha. He started his carrer there. He scored 76 goals as a rookie which will never be beaten and when he was traded he didnt want to leave. When i saw his first game at winnipeg this year he was almost crying at the crowd cheering for him. Its the first year since '96 since the jets have been in the league and its possibly teemus last season. Tell me how you pass this scenario up?

    if everything in my first statement happens… then teemu ends his carrer as a Jet.

  12. JoelLeafs says:

    Well that`s exactly the problem with this team, any plan to fix them has way too many 'ifs'. At this point it seems like a lot has to go exactly right for them to even be in a position to maybe go through a short term rebuild. The Kaberle trade is a good indicator of how brutal the front office in Montreal is. It felt like a trade that was made by an owner, not a savvy GM (not that I'm suggesting that this is the case). The last thing they needed was another huge portion of the cap tied up in one player with years still on his deal. He's put up some points and helped the PP a bit, but what they needed was to shed salary and plan for the future, not pick up another contract. Yes, the D corps was embarrassingly inexperienced, but that money should have been saved for a free agent or a resigning.

    Seriously though, they let Wiz walk and targeted Kaberle? Messed up.

  13. JoelLeafs says:

    Perhaps, but it does seem very unlikely. Although this entire article is bunk evidenced by Murray's quote: “No, he’s retiring a Duck and that’s the way it’s going to be,”

    Can't always trust what GMs say, but that's pretty explicit.

  14. reinjosh says:

    Yeah not sure why they let Wiz go. That pretty much sums up the last couple years. Sign an older guy to do a job for more money than they had to. 

    Seriously they should consider using Desharnais, Emelin, Diaz and maybe even Eller as trade bait to move those big salary guys. It could do a ton of good for them. 
  15. TheLeafNation91 says:

    As much as I hate to admit it, I am really impressed with what Bryan Murray did in Ottawa.

    Maybe to the point where I think his rebuild is going a lot better then Toronto's thus far.

  16. leafmeister says:

    Hmmmmm…I wouldn't say so. Murray has done a good job of building the D, but they still have tonnes of holes, and plenty of question marks. The Leafs are a young team, and do have plenty of holes, but overall, they are far more proven, and have more valuable assets.

    Core Forwards:
    Kessel, Lupul, Kulemin, Kadri, Colborne, MacArthur, Frattin, Grabovski, Bozak (not counting guys like Lombardi/Connolly who probably won't be here long term)


    Spezza, Michalek, Turris, Zibanejad, Foligno, Regin, Butler, Winchester, Greening, Condra, Smith, Winchester

    Top end talent advantage clearly goes to Toronto. Beyond Spezza and Michalek, that team has two potential top 6, and a slew of decent bottom 6. The Leafs have 2 proven top 6, two slumping top 6, a 2nd line grinder/scorer (Mac), and Kadri, Colborne, and Frattin, all of whom have top 6 written all over them.

    Phaneuf, Schenn, Gardiner, Franson, Gunnarsson, Liles, Aulie, Blacker


    Karlsson, Cowen, Lee, Phillips, Wiercoich, Gryba, Carkner (not counting Kuba/Gonchar as they will not be around long term)

    This is closer, as Karlsson and Cowen could be dominant, but Burke has given Toronto excellent depth. Karlsson is obviously dominant offensively, but the guy is terrible defensively, he has brutal giveaways and is manhandled by anyone north of 200 pounds. Prior to the Turris trade the edge COULD have possibly gone to Ottawa, as Runblad looks like a gem. I would say defensively, I would go with the Leafs as well. Bozak looks like a smart, 3rd line center.


    Reimer, Gustovsson, Scrivins, Rynnas, Owuya


    Anderson, Lehner, Auld

    Lehner could be a gem. I will allow for that possibility, but playing a sheer numbers game, having 5 goalies competing for jobs at all levels is more likely to bring about a top goalie. Plus Reimer is semi-proven in this league.

    For forwards, the Leafs beat them because of overall depth and top 6 potential. For D, the Leafs beat them because of depth, and they are more proven.
    For Goalies, the Leafs have a young, proven starter, and a slew of guys coming up.

    So in short. Burke > Murray

  17. reinjosh says:

    It is impressive but to be fair they had some pieces we didn't. Having a potential 90 point center helps things. And Karlsson sure helps. 

    But I'd leave the option its going better than Toronto's open to debate. I might agree to you by the end of the year on a relative term. I do think Toronto is better off right now, but being in year two of their rebuild, I think they are closer than we were in year 2. 
  18. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This goes to prospects and the future of both teams. Toronto does have more holes filled up. However, the Senators I believe have the easier holes to fill.


    When it comes to forwards, both the Toronto Maple Leafs and Ottawa Senators have an abundance of young talent. However, down the middle, the hardest spot to find when it comes to forwards, the Sens are superior in that department.

    Spezza, Turris, and Zibanejad can all be 1A centers…Spezza is showing the real player he is this year, Turris is loving the change of scenery, and Zibanejad just destroyed Team Canada yesterday.

    Not to mention Zach Smith will be a great third-line Center. His numbers are inflated this year, but I watched the Sens this week and he reminds me of a Dave Bolland type guy.

    Toronto, no doubt has the better wingers, but finding a legitimate 1A first-line center will be hard. Ask Calgary or Columbus because they are still looking for Iginla and Bash.

    When it comes to forwards, finding wingers are easier then finding a center. So I think Ottawa needs to just find complimentary players to the talent they already have. Which I think is easy.


    I would say Toronto is by far better due to depth and the amount of talent. Losing Rundblad is a huge loss…But it helps when you have Karlsson and Cowen as your other defencemen. Karlsson might be poor defensively, but hey, the guy might be the best puck mover in the league.

    Either way…Both teams look pretty solid in the future and they will be very good. Maybe just try and find lower line guys in the future.

    I will give the edge to Toronto, their deeper.


    When it comes to goaltending, their pretty much evene. Though Reimer has been very good, he is in no way proven. They are deep in the prospect pool as well, soi its not a bad situation. It's just finding that proven goaltender…As much as I think Reimer could be that guy, he just needs to actually do it for possibly three seasons for me to say he is proven. Scrivens is a good prospect.

    When it comes to Ottawa, due to age, they have the more experienced goaltender in Anderson. Lehner might be the biggest gem in the bunch, but like I said previoulsy he is not proven. So they need to find a young proven goaltender as well.

    For this reason, they are pretty much even.

    In short:

    The Senators so far have the easier holes to fill on offence, the Leafs have the deeper defence, and goaltending is kind of even until they have  a proveb goaltender.

    I would give the slight edge to the Senators because like I said, for Toronto to acquire a proven 1A center, it will be most likely through trade. Which means a lot of their major assets can be drained for the player.

    While for the Senators, they need to find complimentary wingers. Through draft picks and free agency…This could be found. Or doing Lupul type trades for a winger where many aspects are not given up.

  19. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Just read what I wrote to Leifmeister. Toronto right now has the better team, but i think Ottawa has the smaller holes to fill.

  20. leafmeister says:

    Finding a #1 center is tough, but I dont think Spezza is a guy that can carry a team to a cup. He is still pretty bad defensively. You say yourself, having a two way #1 center is extremely important. He has not shown to be a guy who steps up and carries the team to the next level. And he is playing to his potential now, but as we have seen, that can change quite easily. For those reasons, as much as he would be dominant with Kessel, I would probably not shell out too many assets to get him. Certainly nowhere near as much as I would for Staal or Getzlaf.

    I have 0 interest in Turris. He may turn into a decent player, but to be so entitled, so young does not speak well for his future.

    Zibanejad looks like a gem, but please don't cite World Junior performances. It means so little.

    Finding a #1 center will be tough, no doubt, but the Leafs have the assets. They have depth in goaltending, defense, and good prospects to get a deal done. I would say that they are a #1 center away from contending.

    The question I guess would be; is Spezza a guy that can carry you through 4 playoff series? I don't think so.

    Wingers can be tough to find too, ask Sundin.

    The Lupul trade was a result of savvy talent evaluation by Burke, and a lot of luck that he happened to break out this season. You can't just make one happen.

    Say Franson, Kadri, MacArthur and a 1st were traded for Staal. The Leafs, despite the asset drain, would have the far better team and future than Ottawa, without question.

    Plus, if Kessel and Lupul are really this good for years to come, they could prop up a #1b or even a #2 to get 1st line numbers. (i.e Kadri/Colborne)

    Nobody is doubting Karlsson's skill, but he is one dimensional.

    Reimer isn't proven, but he is more proven than Lehner, which was my point.

  21. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Spezza is not Getzlaf or Staal but he is a number one center. He is a guy that can get 90 points a season and it was only a few years back that he nearly won the cup with Ottawa. He is also a PPG player in the playoffs so I would not suggest you cannot win with him because you can. They did lose 4-1 to Anaheim, but lets be real, that Anaheim team was on another level that year. They were built to win a championship.

    Turris situation is different. He did not feel Phoenix was a great place for his development and he is kind of right. They are defensive oriented and have no real offensive players to speak of. Sometimes players need to do whats best for them, and I think this is no different. It's also to say he feels he is entitled because Kadri, time and time again, has stated his dissapointment in being sent to the AHL and felt like he was entitled to being with the Maple Leafs. It happens a lot for young players in sports.

    Zibanejad looks good in his development thus far. When he was drafted, he was compared to Sundin. Anywhere near that, he will be great.

    They are a number 1 center away from contending. But what will it cost? Schenn? Kadri? Draft picks? The price will be steep.

    Sundin was different. He did have wingers earlier on. Mogilny, Roberts, etc. Also, the Leafs were very good back in the day when they were deep at C with Sundin, Niewendyk, etc. Later on, the salary cap killed the Leafs so they could not find capable wingers for him to play with.

    Bozak, this year, is pretty much a 1B this year. a 1A is what this team needs. It will help this team on the offensive end and on the defensive end.

    Karlsson is one dimensional, but he has moment where he looks good defensively. Pair him up with Cowen and that offsets their issues.

  22. lafleur10 says:

     WE WILL BE JUST FINE! WE HAVE ALOT OF YOUNGSTERS COMING GALLAGHER,BEAULIEU,BOURNIVAL,LEBLANC….. JUST TO NAME A FEW AND ALSO A LOTTERY PICK THIS YEAR I FULLY EXPECT US TO LAND A TOP 5 AND WITH TIMMINS DRAFT RECORD AND A LITTLE LUCK WE COULD WIN THE LOTTERY AND LAND YAKUPOV! your right gauthier is a moron and should've been fired along time ago their will be some capspace but not alot available but gill,kostitsyn,moen,gorges,gomez won't be back gomez will be sent to hamilton markov will likely retire or be bought out  we have an young inexperienced d-core but they can and will improve i think their wll be some guys moved for picks to add to our talent base kostitsyn can land us at least a 2nd or 3rd possibly a 1st,gill can land us a pick or 2 will be traded for picks so there is some assests there! but yeah we are imploding for this season,and with a few smart signing or trades by the new g.m.whoever it is and with us continuing to develop our prospects  and with price's assention to being one of the top golies in the league we'll be back sooner and faster than you think i say within 2 years we'll be back

  23. lafleur10 says:

    diaz,weber,and possibly ellar will go for sure i think it was a mistake to not resign wiz but also a mistake not resigning hamrlik!gauhtier has *****ed things up here really bad it'll take the new g.m. a year or 2 to clean it up! but i really hope they hire the right guy for the g.m. job!  i hope it's jim nill (detroit) pierre macguire(n.b.c) julien brisebois(tampa bay) or some other top guys around the league! i know you think macguire isn't  a good choice but he's the smartest analyst in the business and the most wwell connected and a very smart hockey man(he learned form the smartest hockey mind ever scottybowman) so i think macguire will be a very good g.m. jim nill has spent a number of years learning under ken holland who currently is the best g.m. in the league and julien brisebois is a very smart guy and is an expert capologist that is currently the lightning's assistant g.m. and learning from yzerman!

  24. 420xLEAFS says:

    unlikely is correct but murrays quote is pointless because hes not teemu selanne. If he told murray this then teemu can always change his mind at any time… most likely trade deadline if ducks are outta playoffs haha. also what are you supposed to say to this if youre murray "its unkown if teemu will retire as a duck or with another team" not sure how duck fans would react to that one haha

  25. leafmeister says:

    This team can easily afford a #1 center, should one become available. For instance;

    Franson, Kadri, Blacker, 1st



    That is serious value going back, and its effect on the current roster is minimal. Even for the future, it isn't THAT bad.

    Lupul – Getzlaf – Kessel
    MacArthur – Connolly – Frattin
    Kulemin – Bozak – Grabovski (Worth a shot)
    Brown – Steckel – Armstrong

    Phaneuf – Aulie
    Schenn – Gardiner
    Gunnarsson – Liles


    So long as you see that as fair value, then you can see how this roster can quite easily survive a blockbuster trade.

  26. JoelLeafs says:

    I dunno, connections or not, I don't get the feeling that players or coaches (or even GMs, but they're usually less vocal) respect McGuire very much. Plus he's been out of the hockey business for a while. Not sure sitting between the boards and interrupting the other announcers really counts as experience towards a GM position.

    Like I said, hire McGuire and Roy and watch the frenchise burn!

  27. JoelLeafs says:

    Seriously, you don't think the General Manager has the final say on whether a player is traded? Yeah, Selanne has a NTC, so he can refuse to be traded, but that does not go both ways, he can't force them to trade him.

    Yes, rhetoric is rhetoric, but in the end management will decide what to do, and if the head manager explicitly says he won't be traded, then there is a pretty good chance he won't be.

  28. lafleur10 says:

    scotty bowman said in the montreal gazette that he would highly recommend  pierre macguire as g.m. and when bowman says that you listen the guys word carries more weight than anybody in the league bowman is never wrong  and he isn't about this either ,i'd like to see carbonneau get another chance as our coach too he was a very good coach that made us a fun team to watch ,we played a fun stlye under him and he led us to 1st in the conference with 104 points1

  29. lafleur10 says:

    here's just a paragraph od the story where bowman recommends macgiure:

    In terms of significant blunders, André Savard made the fewest of any recent GM. There are other strong candidates. No less an authority than Scotty Bowman has recommended Pierre McGuire for the job. With Serge Savard in the front office, you can take as much time as you need to find his successor.

  30. lafleur10 says:

    if we are out of it come trade deadline day i wouldn't mind seeing us trade kostitsyn i think for a 1st r.d pick,gill for a 2nd or 3rd and gorges for a pick or 2 ,possibly even cole he'd easily get us a 1st round pick with a another 1st r.d pick and a couple of more later round picks let trevor timmins do his work and add more young talent to our stable and we'll be fine we have some very nice pieces coming i.e. gallagher,bournival,bennet,beaulieu,tinordi and like you said with a top 5 pick this year which i think it will be that piece will be a very good player(hopefully) we finish in the bottom 5 and win the draft lottery and add yakupov or girgorenko  to that stable of young guys we have  we'll be fine it might be a few bad years but with timmins drafting for us the future will be very bright.

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