Could the leafs get more?
Ok well it seems the Washington Caps have just signed free agent Michael Nylander. Who would have played great in Toronto and i thought the Leafs should have gotten a centericeman but its too late now.
Ok well think the leafs should completely get rid of Pavel Kubina i think he should be put on waivers if they cant get a trade and soon. Look he got 21 points last year as many points as hall gill and the hal gill hade more goals. If the leafs put him on waivers they could have enough to get another scoring forward and lighten some salary of the goaltending and defence.
If i were JF i would look for a trade with edmonton Washington and some teams that need a puck moving defenceman. They could possibly get a prospect in return or a draft pick but i think thats it considering his salary.
If JF did this he would then have enough to go and get a free agent like a Slava Kozlov or a Bill Guerin or a Brendan Shanahan who would of came cheaper than the Daniel Brieres and Chris Drury’s.
I Personally think the leafs should get rid of Kubina then go out and sign either bertuzzi or shanahan because i hear possibly the Rangers might be getting Shanahan. I think Bertuzzi would help the team escpeically if he plays with Sundin because that will help Bertuzzi get his game in order since the incident. They would also have enough to resign Toskala without going over the cap.
Bertuzzi
Sundin
Blake
Bell
Wellwood
Tucker
Steen
Stajan
Kilger
Battaglia
Newbury
Ondrus
Kaberle
McCabe
White
Gill
Coliacovo
Harrison
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1) Defensemen aren't there for goals
2) Kubina was injured
3) Guerin, Kozlov, Shanahan are still available
4) Leafs need wingers, not centers
5) Toskala does not need to be re-signed for this season
6) Bertuzzi is washed up
7) If any defenseman should be moved, it's McCabe, some of the most turn overs in the league, and no defensive talent (kinda a pre-requisite for being a defenseman)
agree with glucker, also, you're missing poni and antropov in your lines.
The leafs should get rid of McCabe before Kubina, Kubina has made more difference for defense and scoring then McCabe this past season. As for JFJ signing any really big names, That just wont happen, Before that can happen JFJ needs to be fired and the leafs need to miss the playoffs again, To me the leafs have the talent to make the playoffs, Unfortunatly the injuries have been bad, Just remember we went through most of the season with 11 guys missing at one point.Dont think they need all these big names to get into the playoffs the talent and will is there more then ever.
where the hell is antro & poni? man ur crazy get ur facts straight b4 you go and blabber on, shannahan will not come to the leafs nor will he go to the rangers, im thinkin he might go bak to detriot….your right tho hes gotta some how trade kubina that would rid us of 5 mill…jfj would b smart to sign slava kozlov he would b a great fit in the leafs lineup, then sign peca hopefully he will take a discount and heres your 2007/2008 lineup
kozlov,sundin,blake
tucker,wellwood,steen
poni,antro,bell
stajan,peca,kilger
subs-battaglia,newbury,ondrus
kabby,kronwall
mccabe,coliacovo
gill,white
raycroft
toskala
wait to resign toskala until after this season to see if he turns out to be as good as everyone says. i do think raycroft is going to be a great goalie someday so signing him after he was traded here was a good idea but jfj should wait till seasons over to renew toskalas contract..say what you want feel free to critize wat i say here its only my opinion of what the leafs should do
even on point #7? 😀
a few things
1)Peca aint gonna be back(unfortunately)
2)Toskala > Raycroft
3) Kronwall? STAFFAN KRONWALL? you have HIM on your top defensive pairing???
4)Kubina>McCabe
also, Bell was Center before last year, Antropov has been playing wing for YEARS, so just a minor swap there, although they are both capable centers… and… Signing Toskala now could be worth the risk… if he turns out good, we get a bargain, if not, well thats the risk 😛
I agere though, Kozlov should be a Leaf… we'd have an awesome team if he signs
WHY DOES NOBODY GIVE LADISLAV NAGY ANY RESPECT!?!?! he would be an awesome fit with wellwood on the second line, i could really see it, why can't any of you fine ppl see tho? plz do tell
I personally agree
before we do anything we need to trade some of our forwards or waive them. I do not know why we resigned battaglia unless were putting him in the minors he does not fit in our team. so waive battaglia and ondrus. Keep newbury in the minors. throw yes stajan and kilger in to sweeten a kubina deal. now our lines would be more like this.
Kozlov- sundin – blake
Steen- wellwood- tucker
Poni- antropov – bell
Pohl- Devereaux- a young guy ( earl,williams tlustry etc…)
Kaberle McCabe
White Coliacovo
Gill Stralman
This line up would be succesful and would allow us to develop our younger players.
I agree, but I think we should go after Kozlov first. And if we don't get him, Nagy would be a great addition.
Breaking down the leafs. Was going to submit this as news, but hardly seemed like the time. So i'll post it in here.
I'm going to break down the leafs player by player and use the scouting reports from TSN.ca on each player to maybe help the leaf fans understand their team better.
Mats Sundin – Assets – Has excellent strength and reach and is very hard to get the puck from. Is extremely slick, loves to find the holes and has a wide variety of shots. Consistency is the name of his game.
Flaws – While strong on his skates, he's not overly physical considering his size. Is starting to show signs of decay, and becoming more prone to injury with time.
Career Potential – First line Center
(While i disagree that he's a elite top line center, after looking at what some other teams have, he's not all that bad considering. Still a ton of upgrades out there over him)
Jason Blake – Assets – Is very fast and can forecheck extremely well. Always brings a bundle of energy to the rink. Has versatility and an improving offensive arsenal.
Flaws – Lacks ideal size and is somewhat injury-prone. His style of play often stirs up the opposition too much.
Career Potential – Two-way winger.
(I personally think the's better on offensive side than the defensive side and they're giving me a little extra credit on D, but still i can see him as a top line winger.)
Darcy Tucker – Assets – Always comes to play and forechecks very well. Provides an energy boost for his team every shift and has a decent set of hands around the net. Is absolutely fearless on the ice.
Flaws – Has suspect skating ability, which has prevented him from becoming more of an offensive force in the NHL. His agitating qualities can at times hurt his team.
Career Potential – Top 6 winger/agitator.
(2nd line winger at best imo, lacks the skill to play on a real teams top line. But does his job extremely well, and would not mind one bit to have him on my team.)
Bryan McCabe – Assets – Is extremely aggressive in the defensive zone. Has a good shot from the point. Knows when to pinch in from the back end. Can log an abundance of minutes and feasts on the power play.
Flaws – Has cut down on his propensity to make mistakes in the defensive zone but still needs more work in that department. Takes too many bad penalties.
Career Potential – Top Pairing D-man. (He has an some offensive upside to him which makes him valuable to a teams pp unit. i think he lacks in the d side of the game. Wouldn't want him to be a top pairing on my team. He's also not very physical. He may throw hits, but nothing earth shattering for someone who weighs 220 lbs.)
Tomas Kaberle – Assets – Possesses tremendous hockey smarts and the ability to find his teammates on the ice. A swift skater, he can wheel with the puck and loves to join the attack. Is an excellent passer.
Flaws – Still makes mistakes by pinching in when he shouldn't. Needs more strength to better handle big NHL forwards. Doesn't shoot enough at the point.
Career Potential – Top pairing Dman. (Depending on the team i could see him being a 3rd d-man. On the leafs he's a top go to guy and he should be for years to come. )
See the commonality amongst the top 5 players? Most of them lack phyiscality. Top pairing Dman in mccabe is weak on the puck in his own zone, and is always turning over the puck or taking penalties at bad times.
Team Potential – 1st round of playoffs.
I think next year will be a weird year for hte standings in the east. Boston/Florida/Buffalo/Carolina i think will miss the playoffs. That leaves 3 other losers. Islanders will probally miss this year. Down to 2 teams now. It should be fairly simple for the leafs to get into the playoffs, but when they run up against a team like the rangers or senators it will be lights out. They'll have to take the conference to make it past the 1st round.
Didn't realize it was this friggin long. Sorry.
Just thought I should point out that Kozlov isn't a free agent anymore. He signed with the Caps yesterday.
hehe, i kinda blew that one off. A lesser defenseman in Hamrlik signed for 5.5 million, so i'm not complaining.
too late, he's kopitars new buddy
Kubina doesn't really make that much considering what all these defensman are going for in today's market. Kubina's salary is about right and he's talented.
For around $3 mil the leafs should get Yashin. Then all they have to do is make the roster space for him which means either kilger or stajan are out.
Poni – Sundin – Antropov
Tucker – Wellwood – Blake
Bell – Yashin – Steen
Battaglia – Pohl – Devereux/Stajan/Kilger
Defense stays the same
If you ask me you all dont know what you are talking about … in all your line ups you guys are missing someone one of you is missing Poni and Antropov and the other line ups posted by you commenters are missing either Devereaux or Stajan . And im pretty sure Michael Nylander signed with the Edmonton Oilers.
K the caps got victor koslov from NYI not slava koslov from Atlanta
the best thing that the leafs could do – besides trading Raycroft or Kubina – would be to sign a defenceman like Stuart or Sutton, re: put the writing on the wall about Kubina's departure out of T.O.
the worst thing they could do?
sign an inconsistent diver and useless Zubrus. they do not need any more forwards, they dont have a problem scoring, and the dont HAVE to spend right to the cap.
Battaglia – Pohl – Deveraux……that should be Toronto's 4th line.
Yvan Cournoyer CANADA
Aren't 90% of the captains canadian?
TB – Canadian
SJ – Candian
Edm – Was Canadian
Cal – Canadian
Pits – Canadian
Please, everyone feel free to throw a team on the list with a canadian captain. Or for the sake of argument, put a name on here thats captain and not canadian. Wait and see how long that list is.
Have you guys seen all the US players winning the super bowl?
90% of captains probably are canadian….but Toronto's isnt….and thats why they cant win the cup….that was my point. Our management sucks.
…and i enjoy your name….the Pens do suck. lol
If JFJ is willing to take the risk, why not try signing Shanny or Kozlov. Sure it might come at a price and he might have to dive into the extra 10% he has to work with until September 30, but one of these signings would be huge for the Leafs. Personally go with Kozlov becasue they already got a sniper for Mats in Blake. Put Kozlov on that line, you might very well see Blake score close to 50. Sundin is past hsi prime but if the Leafs could get an 80+point season out of him, they might just have their playoff team. Once they get into the playoffs, it will all depend on Toskala and who JFJ decides to get rid of. Put it this way, if the Leafs are not in the playoffs this coming season, sionara JFJ
The best thing they can do actually is sign Zubrus or Yashin, or someone else who can bury 60-80 pts.
What made Buffalo so succesful last year, offense that kept coming at you, where they had 3 legit scoring lines, that wouldn't quit. When one guy is slumping there are always 2 guys going. One more forward would make the leafs a contender, and keep the defense as is, they're stacked back there. I love Kubina, he's gonna thrive this season you'll all see.
GO LEAFS GO!
What about the Leafs taking a chance on Yashin? Sure it seems like they have the depth at that position with Sundin, Wellwood, Stajan, Steen, Nik, and Deveraux but after Sundin and Wellwood, there is no one that is really consistent. It could be a risk due to his injuries. But, putting the injuries aside, he still had a decent year last year being close to a point per game. Could also be an asset to Blake. Your thoughts?
actually, Dave Andreychuck was the captain of the 03/04 Lightning
New Jersey – Patrick Elias (Czech Republic)
Kozlov is still available. It was Victor who signed with the Caps
yes thats right actually my mistake….good call
Ya i like Shanhan but Kozlov would bring some scoring. Shanahan would bring some much needed Canadian grit.
After all the bullshit we've been put through, we might as well get Yashin….with Raycroft between the pipes, we'll need to put pucks in the other net on those nights Raycroft plays as much as possible lol
ahahaha so true glucker, man do they let just about anyone post here??
this hockey trade rumors or hockey trade opinions?
apparently zubrus is close to signing
other players that could come and produce:
yashin 3-4 mill. for 2 years
shanahan (although its very unlikely) hes an Ontario born so maybe hell wanna finish his career somewhere near home; he'd probly cost between 5-6 mill. The leafs would need to get rid of Kubina in order for that to happen.
Mike Comrie is still out there. I see no reason why he'd want to play in Toronto and its most likely hell sign with the rival sens again but he'd be great on a second line with wellwood,steen or tucker
kozlov would also be great. Hes a speedster and wcould probly come cheep in the range or 3-5 mill. However theres no guarantee hell put up the same numbers he did last season playing aside superstars Kovalchuk and Hossa.
apparently zubrus is close to signing
other players that could come and produce:
yashin 3-4 mill. for 2 years
shanahan (although its very unlikely) hes an Ontario born so maybe hell wanna finish his career somewhere near home; he'd probly cost between 5-6 mill. The leafs would need to get rid of Kubina in order for that to happen.
Mike Comrie is still out there. I see no reason why he'd want to play in Toronto and its most likely hell sign with the rival sens again but he'd be great on a second line with wellwood,steen or tucker
kozlov would also be great. Hes a speedster and wcould probly come cheep in the range or 3-5 mill. However theres no guarantee hell put up the same numbers he did last season playing aside superstars Kovalchuk and Hossa.
two mistakes here.
1) they got blake so sundin could finally have his winger so why the hell do you put him on the second line.
2) Yashin is way past his prime and to even consider signing him is friggen ridiculous
Yashin won't put up even 50 becuz he could only fit in Toronotos 3rd line. He is way over rated. The best thing they can do is get rid of McCabe and kilger and get either bertuzzi, shannahan or Slava kozlov
Ya i would probably take my chances with shannahan. If they get him i would definatley give him the A on his jersey.
Yashin is terrible.
and im pretty sure he signed with the caps
two still potential free agents that i would sign with the money john ferguson jr. has left are:
1. either slava kozlov- 2 – 4 years for 2 or 2.5 million dollars each year.
2. Dainius Zubrus- 1 – 3 years for the same amount, but i think that kozlov will make more money than zubrus!
Two mistakes GoLeafs13
1) JFJ called Blake a guy who "rounds out there top 6 forwards) meaning he could play 1st or 2nd line, let Maurice see where he fits best, we already know Poni, Nik, and Mats are a great line.
2) Yashin although past his prime was put up 28 pts in the first 22 games of last season before suffering his big injury. He came back and with limited ice time still averaged around a point per game in fifty-something games. Hmmmm, 3 mil $ for a guy who would probably put up 50-70 points as a 3rd liner/2nd PP unit. Sounds good to me!
Yashin would play 3rd line all year if everyone is always healthy. Meaning he'd get a lot of time on the 2nd line. Also he'd get PP minutes where his wrist shot is proven lethal. Just because you don't like him personally doesn't mean he's not an amazing player.
And hahahaha, your boy Todd went to Anaheim. Yashin's better than him anyway, so this isn't bad news for the leafs.
I agree completely, Yashin IS offense. Before his injury last year he lead all players in 1st assists (he was the last player to touch the puck before the goal scorer).
This is just another stat proving Yashin is a great player.
I agree completely, Yashin IS offense. Before his injury last year he lead all players in 1st assists (he was the last player to touch the puck before the goal scorer).
This is just another stat proving Yashin is a great player.
Yashin, Forsberg, Shanahan
Well, Betuzzi has signed with Anahiem so he's not coming to T.O, so they should sign S.Kozlov if he doesn't sign with Dallas. He would play great with blake and Sundin. Then agaiin, he is 35 and getting old. This is the trade I propose (assuming you don't sign anyone else). To Toronto: Dan Boyle and a 1'st round pick for 09 (because of Travers). To Tampa:Mccabe, Kubina, Battaglia and Ondrus. To some of you this trade seems a little wierd or lopsided, but Boyle was 4'th in scoring for the league in scoring and it would unload a lot of salary off our shoulders (so we can sign a guy like healtey next year). Now, our lines look like this: