Comments on: Could the Oilers trade Hemsky? Would the Wings be interested?

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:15:19 +0000

SO ARE YOU ASS CLOWN!

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Sun, 01 Jan 2012 03:32:37 +0000

your dumb, simple as that.

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:13:02 +0000

price is in the same league as thomas and lundquist and is better than fleury ,yeah i get that fleury won a cup but you put fleury on the habs now and see how good he'd really be he's a stacked team with crosby and malkin price doesn't have those guys in front of him and has a good a number or better numbers than fleury ,put price on the penguins and they'd be aunbeatable! so that's why i said he's the best goaltender in the conference he is considering what he brings to the habs if you put him on the rangers thye would've won a cup already and like i said in the playoffs last year he had better numbers than thomas did price didn't lose us the series,infact he almost won it single handedly for us! and subban is our best defencman already and he's in his 2nd season and he 's better than any defncman on the oilers and would be there #1 as well and he'd be a #1 on alot of teams and a top 2 on many subban is that good but if he was available he'd land a kings ransom for us defnce,man like him don'tt come around often he has 1st r.d ralent and is showing it ,and i think that alot of teams that passed on him and allowed us to take him in the second r.d. was a mistake and he's proving that right now! as for the guys you mentioned about taking over eberle on right wing for now i would but at seasons end eberle will be a head of a couple of those guys on that list

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:01:23 +0000

price would land the habs the top pick in the draft let's not kid ourselves here there is no goalie available today in the draft or available through trade that has a value or ceiling that price does he's a franchise goaltender,a goaltender that can win you cups! if he was available he'd be the best goalie available and 29 teams including your leafs would line up to take a shot at getting him and there would be a bidding war for him the prices would be astromonical! he would win you a cup before a guy like yakupov would, subban's value is worth eberle as much as you don't think it is subban is a superstar defenceman he has drew doughty talent he isn't doughty but he has that upside so if you think we'd have to give up pacioretty as well your wrong there too! pacioretty is a big poweforward that we've needed for years and is a future 25 -30 goal man yeah eberle is a great player as i have said in the past ,as i also said to many leafs fans on here that he'd be better than kadri and he is it's not even close but leafs ripped me on that and told me that kadri would be better than hall! i laughed at that and still am! no i wouldn't think pacioretty is worth rnh i'm not a leafs fan that think that kulemin and gustavsson would land them parise! i think if subban and price were traded to edmonton we'd land eberle,1st r.d pick hemsky and something else most likely a goaltender where did i think that hall for price or subban would be unfair! i never said that i said if we were to trade price there hall or eberle would be going the other way that's a fact!

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:24:08 +0000

I dont agree that Price is flat out better than Rask, I'll admit he has more trade value but stats don't lie:

Rask:

2009-10: 2562min, 1.97GAA, 0.931pct
2010-11: 1594min, 2.67GAA, 0.918pct
2011-12: 737min, 1.61GAA, 0.945pct

Price:

2009-10: 2358min, 2.77GAA, 0.912pct
2010-11: 4206min, 2.35GAA, 0.923pct
2011-12: 2002min, 2.49GAA, 0.912pct

Price played 2 more years than Rask before this but his numbers were worse so I wont count them for this comparison.

Rask's stats speak for themselves. With the exception of a sophomore slump (Price also had one dropping from 2.56/0.920 to 2.83/0.905), Rask was clearly better than Price in every way. The only reason he isn't the starter in Boston is that Thomas is doing better than Rask (as amazing as that sounds). Now I do believe that Price has more trade value than Rask, and Price should end up being the better goalie, but the fact is he isn't right now.

Besides, my point here was that you are flat out wrong about what Price and Subban are worth in a trade. Price will not get Montreal a 1st overall pick with massive upside. Subban's value is no where near worth Eberle. And on top of that you think Hall for Price or Subban for Eberle is unfair to Montreal.

If I were to try and figure out Eberle's trade value using Montreal's players I would say Subban+Pacioretty for Eberle would be a fair trade assuming Edmonton was willing to part with Eberle at all. Obviously Montreal wont make this trade but if Montreal wanted Eberle that would be the cost, give or take a mid-round pick or prospect. But of course, your hard on for Montreal will probably try to tell me that Pacioretty is worth RNH now.

By: thisgamewelose

thisgamewelose — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:03:22 +0000

Best goalie in the conference? Lundqvist, Thomas, and Fleury are too busy laughing that one off. Although I'd Rank him right there with Fleury. Thomas, and Lundqvist are still sitting in front.

Subban has a bomb from the point. But you'd be foolish if you thought they could land Eberle for just Subban. Eberle is becoming one of the top wingers in the league.

Saying Subban would be the best D on the Oilers is not saying much at all. We all know the Oilers need help on the D. Nobody is claiming that Subban is crap. However, there's at least 10 D players anybody would take over Subban. But Giroux, Kessel, Kane, Perry, St. Louis, Nash, would be the only guys you take over Eberle on R-Wing.

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:49:23 +0000

I agree with Rask, but no way in hell is he better then Thomas.

2 Vezinas (looks like the early favorite again), 1 Conn Smythe, Stanley Cup, and the Jennings. Cannot argue with that.

Its very hard to argue playoff stats as well since Thomas outdueled Price in their series...And shutout the Canucks in game 7 and was tremendous in that final series.

By: TheLeafNation91

TheLeafNation91 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:45:22 +0000

Might be. However, don't forget Subban is playing the most minutes on Montreal...While Gardiner's on the Leafs second pairing.

I always thought Subban was very overrated. Good offensively, not great defensively. That's what I think his career will be.

By: lafleur10

lafleur10 — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:28:18 +0000

price is better than rask ! period end of story .if rask was that good he'sd be the bruins starter if you check price's stats from last year in the playoffs you'll see that they were better than thomas's eventhough thomas and the bruins won the cup ! i'm a homer but when leafs fans like you think price isn't that good i'll tell you he is! i will say this too he's twice as good as any leafs goalie hands down

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:23:49 +0000

seriously man, you have to start watching other teams play. Price is not better than Thomas, Price isn't even better than Rask. You seriously cannot be that much of a homer. I understand you have a huge boner for Price but facts are facts, Thomas has done much much much better than Price.

Now get Price's ***** out of your mouth and maybe check a couple stats sheets or you could watch a couple hockey games that do not include the Montreal Canadiens.