Do we really need to make the big deal now??

The Montréal Canadiens are considered as one of the top prospect loaded team in the league, to make a big deal we’ll have to part with some of them…I’ve said several times that I don’t want my Habs to mortgage our future this year to get an impact player. It wouldn’t make sense because were not going to get anywhere near the cup anyways (who knows what can happen in the playoffs, but our chances are slim).

The only reason I see Gainey acquire a big name would be to try and get near the 3rd round and help the team get even financially this year. (note: President Pierre Boivin recently said that in order to not lose any money this year, the Habs had to get ”deep into the 3rd round”)

Let’s say he has the mandate to do so, what would we need?

Answer: A big talented young power forward

Knowing that, who’s available outthere?

* Jeff O’neill-CAR (28yo)

* Ryan Smyth-EDM (28yo)

* Keith Tkachuk-STL (32yo)

Now let’s analyze the three options:

* Jeff O’neill-CAR

Jeff O’neill is a very talented player that is having a difficult year. I strongly believe that wherever he might end up, he will bounce back. Unfortunately, I’ve never been a big fan of him and I don’t particularly like his attitude. Perhaps this could change if he was heading here but I’m not sure about that at all.

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE?

Last saturday Jim Rutherford has been seen in Bob Gainey’s office and he apparently stayed there for about an hour. Wanna bet they talked about a possible trade? ”Everything went very well” said Rutherford when asked about his meeting with Gainey. He also stated that he didn’t HAD to trade a guy like Jeff O’neill and if he do so, it would take at least a ”first year player” to land him.

Hmmmm. Interesting… What do we have in term of first year player in our team? Michael Ryder: Calder candidate, Gainey can’t trade the leading scorer of all the NHL rookies as it just wouldn’t make sense. Mike Komisarek: great young defensemen that is wanted by almost every team in the league. When drafted, several GM’s all agreed that he was a ”Scott Stevens with an offensive upside” defensemen. If we try to get O’neill, expect Rutherford to make a big push for Komisarek…

BUT!

You won’t land one of the most coveted player in the league with just Mike Komisarek! The Hurricanes are not in salary dumping mode and can ask for a big return to any team inquiring about O’neill. You can bet there are at least 5 to 8 teams interested in him right about now. So, what else would we have to give up? A forward, again maybe a youngster. I doubt that a guy like Yanic Perreault would interest much the Canes, so we’d have to tempt Rutherford with Marcel Hossa. He’s big and could become a very good power forward one day. Normally, this deal should be just enough to get O’neill but nothing is normal these days and Gainey would probably be in a bidding war with one or two other teams so he’d likely have to add a substancial draft pick into the mix, possibly a 3rd or 4th.

* Ryan Smyth-EDM

Now, off the three players he is the one I want the most. He brings in grit, leadership, talent & heart. He’d become a fan favorite in a flash here in Montréal…

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE?

Kevin Lowe has stated numerous of times that he was a big fan of Mike Komisarek. On draft day in 2001, he apparently made a strong push to obtain the 1st rounder of the Habs (7th overall) in order to draft Komisarek. It didn’t work out and Edmonton ended picking Ales Hemsky at #13, not bad at all if you ask me. Now contrary to the Hurricanes, Edmonton can’t afford to keep high-priced player so other teams knows that they’d like to ship Smyth’s salary elsewhere. Again, only Komisarek wouldn’t cut it and Montréal would have to add a little something more in order to land him. Again, the names of Marcel Hossa & Ron Hainsey pops up immediately. One of both plus a low draft pick should be enough to seal the deal but since the organization don’t seem to have much faith in those two players, I say why not include em both and ask a little something more from Lowe?? Forget about Jason Smith as he much rather send him elsewhere in a different deal to help him get a maximum of return for the two Smith’s. No, the player I would be targeting is youngster defensemen Marc-André Bergeron. He is small, very true, but plays big! He plays with so much heart and isn’t affraid to land big hits. He reminds me alot of Francis Bouillon with better offensive talent. He always been a Power Play specialist (Broke the record for the most goals in a season by a defensemen in juniors with 42) and is francophone. cough-cough he also happens to be a friend of mine cough-cough. He has 5 goals and 11 assists in 37 games so far this season.

* Keith Tkachuk-STL

Great player, respected all-around the league. He has lots of talent but to grab him would be to make an incredible favor to the Blues by picking up his enormous contract. Unless St. Louis pick up a part of his salary, I don’t want him near Montreal. I don’t see him fitting well with the Habs either and I don’t think he would bring anything positive to our dressing room.

WHAT WOULD IT TAKE?

Mike Komisarek! Again only him wouldn’t be enough. The Blues are in dire need of defensive help so they’d ask about Craig Rivet who could help them right away. You know what? I’d also throw in Karl Dykhuis in the deal just to get rid of him!! So larry Pleau would have the chance to get a quick defensive fix (Rivet) and probably the next Chris Pronger (Komisarek) for an expensive, aging (but still very capable) power forward. In my opinion, Pleau would bite to this deal, and bite hard! Does I want this deal to happen though? Hell no!

So, to sum this up, this is what I think we’d have to part with in order to get the power forward we desperatly need:

To Carolina: Mike Komisarek, Marcel Hossa, 3rd or 4th Rounder.

To Montréal: Jeff O’neill.

To Edmonton: Mike Komisarek, Ron Hainsey, Marcel Hossa.

To Montréal: Ryan Smyth, Marc-André Bergeron.

To St. Louis: Mike Komisarek, Craig Rivet, Karl Dykhuis (please, just trade him somewhere!).

To Montréal: Keith Tkachuk.

Notice the pattern here? If we want to land a big name, we’ll have to give up Mike Komisarek. That’s the way it is…

If any of those deals were to happen, the one I’d want the most would be with the Oilers. Nothing against O’neill and Tkachuk, but in my book Ryan Smyth has an edge over the two. Not necesseraly just on the ice, but also off the ice.

Do I want any of these deals to happen?? Now this is another question! I don’t know, As much as I’d want to finally adress the power forward need in Montréal, I am not quite ready to give up Mike Komisarek to do so. I mean this could be the next Chris Pronger we are talking about, guys! Do we really want to let him go elsewhere?? It is true that the rising of Sheldon Souray has changed the face of our defensive core and that Komisarek COULD be seen as expendable, but again this could be a great mistake to trade him away. You also have to take into consideration that we are not considered as ”contenders” for the cup so Bob Gainey can lower the asking price of other GM’s by telling them that he isn’t desperate to land the player as we don’t really need him in a hurry, contrary to say the Leafs who will overpay for the next big name d-men they acquire. So it would basically be the biggest advantage of pulling the trigger this year instead of waiting to be contenders and overpay too.

We also have to keep in mind that sooner or later, we’ll have to get ourselves a power forward in order to be competitive in the playoffs.
The big question is, however: Do we have to do it now???

Comments?

Marcö’s


87 Responses to Do we really need to make the big deal now??

  1. jouby says:

    So I’m starting to realise!

  2. kuntakentai1 says:

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  3. kuntakentai1 says:

    realize is spelled with a Z you stupid cheese eating rectum sucker

  4. Jack_Laviolette says:

    Mad? Try amused.

    After all, I’m not the one who has to see your ugly sex-starved face everytime I look in the mirror, and live with your dysfunctional and diseased brain.

    So it was your mother after all?

    I really enjoy this verbal joust, although your limited intelligence doesn’t make for much of a challenge. Please stick to english, or I will feel like I’m beating on a kid with glasses on a wheelchair.

  5. Wpgjets says:

    Hey ***** a Kint gay

    Why do you bother posting? You’re obviously an immature little *****in turd, whom takes it up his ass dry…or, you got drunk at a bar in Montreal, and sucked off all the men in it, and are now feeling SUPER guilty and homophobic! Either way you are a priceless piece of shit, whom goes to the village to have his ass and mouth filled nightly.

  6. Wpgjets says:

    hey ***** take in it gay—

    If anyone knows about *****, it would be you ya pole smokin’ fashion victim! You talk about ***** so much, I am wondering if you spew sperm outta yur mouth everytime you speak.

    Either way, as a french canadian, and on behalf of them all, we say, why don’t you go back to the bar you got drunk at? You know, the one where the next day you woke up with a stretched ass and mouth?

  7. Wpgjets says:

    And again, you would know all about that wouldn’t you? Since you smoke poles nightly, and have your ass and mouth stretched by french guys every night! Usually, it’s guys like you whom talk about penises alot that crave one in every hole. OH! OH! Please! Not so hard! Ya stupid, ass lickin, turd munchin homophobic shit eater!

  8. Wpgjets says:

    You would know *****-a kint gay-you have a rash around your asshole from all the french canadian men you beg to plug it for you. You are so obsessed with pole, that you come on this site posting messages to anyone who will listen about how you love dink so much!

  9. kovalev says:

    shes actually a girl….

  10. simplyhabby says:

    I could not agree more. I just look at the ream now and feel that trading prospects for proven young talent is more ideal.

    I like the way the habs look as is. Then need a strong gritty winger, a large center and a big defenseman so I would rather not trade the first liners that we already have on D. I don’t want Kiovu to follow in the footsteps of the previous 4 or so Montreal Captains. (Meaning the C is trade me).

    Bouliion is very under rated. I am very impressed how he stepped up.

  11. wingerxx says:

    The Shayne Corson-Alex Mogilny wife rumor is total garbage. Any sane person would wake up and realize that.

  12. bamboo says:

    Wpgjets???????hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  13. bamboo says:

    You seem to be very hostile. Did you just get dumped? You are in a man hating phase? Don’t worry Wpg diddler, they aren’t all like that. Who is calling who a homophobe? Isn’t it time for you to get your colon cleaned out by your father?

  14. bamboo says:

    It was just a stretched ass. What were you doing there??? Once you go black you never go back huh? That guy looked like he had a sword and what did you think you were, Luke Skywalker?

  15. jouby says:

    Great, giving grammatical lessons now? How generous of you.

  16. bamboo says:

    Yes I do go to the village every night to get a coffee and a bagel. Are you watching me? You like to talk about ass don’t you? If this is your little grade 7 way of telling me you have a crush on me, I’m sorry I’m not interested. You can’t compete with the big boys little child so why don’t you just lay it down and go play with yourself

  17. Jack_Laviolette says:

    That’s right, projection may help you recover.

  18. mymanbob says:

    I’m with you on most points. After the tremeandous year in the A that Ward had, he does have some value to a team like Edmonton. If Edmonton decides that their push is futile, then they might be willing to accept Bulis(who has tremendous potential to some, simply a solid two-way player who should not be on the first line…to me). Bulis should be back soon.

    I’m not sure who Bob would have to give up to get Gauthier. Calgary won’t take on any big salaries, so unless we absorb some of his contract, Perreault won’t be going that way.

    Hopefully Bob will be trying to deal with a team looking for a faceoff specialist. I think you can bundle Perreault with someone, and get a decent return. Nothing fancy, but then fancy trades were never Montreal’s style!

  19. mattf says:

    has montreal ever made a star aquisition before? what is the point of dealing for a tkachuck when they’ll get knocked out in the first round anyways.

  20. tj_hooker says:

    would you be considered a racist or continentalist?

  21. Wpgjets says:

    bamboo?? Is that what you plug your FAT ASS with nightly?

    hahahahahahahahhahahaahhahaa–HHHAAAAHH

    *****in loser, or whore, or repressed homo or welfare moose~!

  22. Wpgjets says:

    Little child? Big boys? Get a life turd muncher. Just because I use more direct vulgarity, doesn’t mean that your speaking to a teenager or a child. Lets not even go anywhere near the maturity questions all right? Based on your responses, posts and apparently, challenges directed at me, not to mention your “Wpgjets? hahahha etc etc” I believe that I AM THE ONE dealing with a child. Or at least your one inch penis leads me to believe this. How do I know its one inch? Your constant references to Penises, ramming, butts etc. Dont try to put it off on me, just because someone shows up on the site to challenge your *****in repressed little ass homo. I’ll bet your a bottom arent you? And because your a “bottom”, your even more repressed, needing to show up on this site all evening trying desparetly to outdo, out spell, or out SUCK everyone here. Tell you what… I am not going to play this with you. This will be my last post. So, next time your in the village getting your bagel and coffee and all the franco men are waving at you and smiling, and you vaguely remember something happened the night before–think hard. You know, think HARD? Maybe somewhere in the recesses of your mind, you will recall that night. 100 franco men pounding every hole and you screaming

    go habs go! go habs go!!

  23. Wpgjets says:

    Little child? Big boys? Get a life turd muncher. Just because I use more direct vulgarity, doesn’t mean that your speaking to a teenager or a child. Lets not even go anywhere near the maturity questions all right? Based on your responses, posts and apparently, challenges directed at me, not to mention your “Wpgjets? hahahha etc etc” I believe that I AM THE ONE dealing with a child. Or at least your one inch penis leads me to believe this. How do I know its one inch? Your constant references to Penises, ramming, butts etc. Dont try to put it off on me, just because someone shows up on the site to challenge your *****in repressed little ass homo. I’ll bet your a bottom arent you? And because your a “bottom”, your even more repressed, needing to show up on this site all evening trying desparetly to outdo, out spell, or out SUCK everyone here. Tell you what… I am not going to play this with you. This will be my last post. So, next time your in the village getting your bagel and coffee and all the franco men are waving at you and smiling, and you vaguely remember something happened the night before–think hard. You know, think HARD? Maybe somewhere in the recesses of your mind, you will recall that night. 100 franco men pounding every hole and you screaming

    go habs go! go habs go!!

  24. Wpgjets says:

    hahahaha-you are pretty funny though. This I admit. But being a Habs fan, I simply cannot permit your abuse of my beloved team. Thus, the constant insults. My comments are based on “assumptions.” Not on actually being in the same area, or bar as you. I can just see your little fingers though, one hand on the keyboard, the other with your fingers tickling your anal cavity getting excited over a challenge! Getting excited by multiple vulgar insults and competitive rants on this site! Yes! Having fun? I’ll bet! But one last thing before I must leave (Some of us have a life) no matter what else you post, or whom you insult, we all know that, all kidding aside, you are a jealous little girl loser. Montreal has, hands down, the best list of prospects over any other team in the league. They have several players that are up and coming younger potential stars that will play in the NHL now and in the future. So, I say, go back to your beer, bagels, and getting your ass rammed nightly. Good night penis slurper!

  25. habs_punk says:

    yes, of course they will get knocked out in the first round. idiot

    is new jersey guaranteed to get knocked out first round too? montreal’s only 2 points back of them. only 9 points out of first overall. 4.5 games back with 15 to play if it were baseball, thats plenty of time to gain ground. the habs could possibly be looking at home ice first round. anyone that makes the playoffs this year could be cup contenders, its that tight. having a goalie that can potentially steal a series doesnt hurt either.

  26. bubbakazoo says:

    I doubt Komisarek would be traded. Hainsey and Hossa for O’Neil makes sense, however.

  27. jouby says:

    Yay we agree! seems rare on this board sometimes.

  28. jouby says:

    Yeah, I had my doupts on Koivu in the past. But i’ll admit That since he stoped visitng the infirmary on a regular basis he is one of our best players.

    I’m a Ribeiro fan but when both of them are fireing on all cylinders, well the Habs are completely stupendous.

    The Habs had the bad tendency of trading their captains but that was under that god awful Houle regime (shudder…)

    You know who I would see with a C on his shirt? Sheldon Souray. I just think that defensmen make good captains. but I won’t start that conversation again.

    I’m just glad it’s not torture watching a Habs game. Just my luck I’m stuck in Bruins territory… damn Bruins…

  29. afanofthelakings says:

    Hey man, I’ll explain to you why the habs fans boo Saku Koivu

    First : It was the game after he fighted with Ribeiro, so the message involved in the booing was : ”You can’t fight with other players on your team when you’re the captain”

    Second : It happends just 1 game, the game after, it didn’t happend

    Third : Saku learned of this, and since then, he’s Montreal best player…

    So the booing was bennefit the the Habs, and they are for now(with Tampa) the hottest team in the League.

    For the trade ???

    The Canadians needs a big leftendded defenseman and a big solid foward

    The solutions ???

    Jeff O’Neill and Paul Mara

    In my fantasy season I’ve made that big deal :

    To Phoenix : Marcel Hossa, Yanic Perreault and Craig Rivet

    To Montreal : Shane Doan, Brian Savage and Paul Mara

  30. kovalev says:

    Kovalev has just become a Hab for Josef Balej and a 2nd round draft pick

  31. rojoke says:

    Yeah, and they weren’t supposed to beat Boston in 2002, but they did. Then when you look at last year’s playoff, upsets never happen in the first round, do they.

    Montreal hasn’t made a star acquisition since they traded for Denis Savard. Ironically, the Hawks got the better player, but the Habs won the Cup with him. And to be honest, I don’t think they’ll make a star acquisition this year. Mostly because they don’t need it, but equally because they probably can’t afford it.

  32. Lint07 says:

    ok. good, I wasn’t sure. 😉

  33. ManillaKilla says:

    most sellouts??? not even close.

  34. kovalev says:

    Yes they have made a few

    Turgeon,Recchi,Damphousse, Bellows,Muller,Savard

  35. Komic-J says:

    That’s a pretty interesting article. However, I’d rather have O’Neill than Smyth. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love both of them, but the reason why I would like to get O’Neill is because the Hurricanes have a couple of players who might be interesting for the Habs.

    The possible lock-out next year changes a lot of things as the deadline approaches. And I don’t think teams have to give as much as that…currently, it’s more like a prospect and a second rounder for an established player.

    That being said, I think Carolina might be ready to move O’Neill for cheaper than that. And if they really want Ryder, I wouldn’t trade him one-for-one with O’Neill. A trade involving the calder candidate would have to include Cole.

    Anyways, nice reading your stuff man… :)

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