Edmonton Oilers fourth on the list in the Justin Schultz sweepstakes, says Oilers insider Bob Stauffer

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This just in from Bob Stauffer of Oilers Now on Twitter: “Personally I think the Oilers sit 4th in pursuit of Schultz. Vancouver leads the way imo (home-field advantage). Leafs and Rangers 2nd and 3rd respectively because players recruit players. Gardiner in T.O., and Stepan and McDonagh with NYR.”

So what’s the big deal? Stauffer is just another media guy, right? And didn’t he predict the Oilers would take Ryan Murray?

True, but Stauffer works for the team itself as the colour man on radio broadcasts, and when it comes to having sources inside the Oilers, he is right up there with two Hall of Famers, Terry Jones of the Sun and Jim Matheson of the Journal.

If Stauffer is saying the Oilers are behind some other teams, I’m buying that, even as TSN’s Bob McKenzie and ESPN’s Pierre Lebrun have mentioned Edmonton as as a likley Schultz destination.

The fact is reporters and bloggers from across North America are all speculating on where Schultz will go, and fans from Philadelphia to Ottawa, from Vancouver to Toronto, have their hopes up.

There’s going to plenty of disappointment when the kid does pick a city, but such is the life of the hockey fan.

P.S. In previous tweets, Stauffer had more to say on Schultz: “As for Justin Schultz I did bump into to Newport’s Don Meehan and Craig Oster at the draft. They are well aware of the opportunity in EDM.

“If Schultz does sign with say the Rangers or the Leafs who have defence depth, obviously there may be a trade option for Oilers.”

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/06/26/edmonton-oilers-fourth-on-the-list-in-the-justin-schultz-sweepstakes-says-oilers-insider-bob-stauffer/


37 Responses to Edmonton Oilers fourth on the list in the Justin Schultz sweepstakes, says Oilers insider Bob Stauffer

  1. Schneidfeld says:

    Get on the phone & make this happen Gardiner!!! lol

  2. TimTheBone says:

    Haha… With all this attention around the guy imagine he becomes a bust… Or just a regular depth #5-6 dman…. Wouldn’t be the first time.. Haha

    • nordiques100 says:

      He’s gotten a lot of hype because of the Toronto connection.

      I dont know if the attention would have been there had the Leafs not been one of the suitors.

      But scouts have said, he is better than Gardiner at the same age. So we’ll see. Like pretty much any young blueliner, needs to learn how to play in his own end.

      It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

      he’s got his buddies, and a big spotlight in NY or Toronto.

      He can win immediately and be at home in Van

      He can play a ton in Edmonton.

      • JoelLeafs says:

        Well the NHL is a different beast than any other league, so it really could go either way. Toronto has had plenty of examples of NCAA and European players coming to the team as UFAs in the last few years that exemplify this point very well.

        Gardiner seems to have worked out quite well so far, but even he struggled to crack the lineup at first. Wherever Schultz lands he has as good a chance of busting as any other prospect.

        • reinjosh says:

          Bozak, Read are both successful examples of players that recently made the jump without too much issue. Bozak has had his troubles but it’s pretty hard to argue that he hasn’t been a decent pickup if you consider that he was signed for nothing but cash.

          I think Schultz has been hyped for more than just the fact he was tied to Gardiner (who happened to be playing quite well at the time). He ripped up the NCAA the year before and was doing it again, putting up better numbers than Gardiner, who could be argued was the most impressive rookie NHL dman this year.

          So the logic went Schultz could be better and if Gardiner made the jump Schultz could too.

          He certainly put up better points that Matt Gilroy did at the time he was hyped.

          He’s been hyped for a reason. He’s one of the new more accepted breed of dman that plays a more offensive game. ANd he’s been damn good at in the NCAA

  3. dumbassdoorman says:

    Even if he busts, he will still be better then 95% of the worlds players lol

  4. reinjosh says:

    Dennis Wideman is a Flame. I like it. A lot (they traded Jordan Henry and a 5th for his rights).

    He brings some nice mobility to the backend. Hopefully he’s worth the 5.25 million a year he’s signed for (5 years).

    • Steven_Leafs0 says:

      I think they overpayed. I hope I’m wrong but $5.25M for Wideman seems high.

      • reinjosh says:

        It does seem high. I like the player for Calgary. Cap might be high but with a 70 million cap ceiling, it’s largely a minor inconvenience.

        I wonder if it means Bouwmeester is gone?

      • JoelLeafs says:

        5.25 is a bit high, IMO. It could be okay though. When he is in the last 2-3 years of the contract it could be onerous though. He is presently 29, after all.

        • TimTheBone says:

          5.25 seems high…. But its right in-line as to where his salary should be considering inflation…. I mean the salary cap honestly doesn’t seem to be dropping any time soon and i wouldn’t be surprised to see it at 100 million in 5 years…. Which at that point makes widemans cap hit irrelevant ( even though its up in five years) …

          • nordiques100 says:

            Lets give BB some credit for getting a similar player in Liles to sign for 1.5 mil less.

            That’s a massive overpayment for Wideman.

            The cap in the current CBA may be $70 mil, but surely there’s a strong possibility it goes significantly down. What then? The Flames are a haven for bad contracts and mismanagement.

            • mojo19 says:

              To be fair, Liles is definitely a similar type of player, but he’s a few years older than Wideman, plus Wideman is a right handed shot on the point, which is usually a more expensive commodity.

              I still agree with the overall point though, Liles is a good deal at under $4 million cap hit.

            • TimTheBone says:

              I really don’t buy that “well surely the cap must fall”…. What gives anyone the idea that the cap will fall… It’s done nothing but rise the last 6 years and I’m under the assumption its going to continue the trend… People every year keep saying well what if it goes down.. what if it goes down… It’s not… It’s risen nearly 30million since the beginning… And with the cap rising and the floor rising as well .. gnaw have more room to work with… The result is many high seeming contracts are going to be signed

  5. dumbassdoorman says:

    It isn’t the worst signing ever, infact, really he probably would have gotten close on the open market. And even if they over paid a bit they got a player to commit long term, which may in the end be worth the extra.

    • mojo19 says:

      I was thinking $4.5-5 mil for Wideman, but who knows, on the open market he probably could have commanded upwards of $5.5 mil. Slight over-payment by Calgary by my estimation but they got a big right handed shot from the point and a guy who can contribute offensively.

      I guess Calgary’s still going for it with this core of Iggy, Tanguay, Cammo, Gio, and Kipper. I wonder if they’ll hold onto Jay-Bo?

      • reinjosh says:

        I’m sort of hoping it signals a minor retool. Move out some older players, bring in some younger players.

        But I think thats an illogical hope.

  6. kessel_leafs81 says:

    I saw this on another post and i kind of like the idea:

    To Tor: 1st rounder

    To Edm: Franson, blacker

    Could bottom out to be a top 3 pick? or if all their young players play good, a top 10. Unless they aquire one more good defenceman, i cant see them going too far and finishing above 10th last. Gives us flexibility to flip macarthur kadri and throw in a first and also still have another first to use in next years draft.

    • Gambo says:

      For Edmonton’s first, you have to do that.

    • nordiques100 says:

      That will never happen because

      a) the Oilers look like they will not be good for another 2 years

      b) Franson and Blacker are the least appealing of the Leafs top young D that includes Gardiner, Percy, Reilly and Finn. One of them would have to be included for the risk averse Oilers to accept

      c) the oilers i mentioned are risk averse. Tambellini never takes any chances. He is always too worried about making a mistake. As much as a 1st round pick in teh future is a big unknown, so are those 2 leafs defenceman. Franson is no more than at best a 4th D man and he struggled when he got minutes with Toronto last year. Blacker, he is still developing, he’s a ways away.

      d) and lastly, the Oilers are not stupid. They’re not going to trade their pick now. They are still a young team that really isnt settled in goal, has no D, are weak at centre, and are still long on development.

      • reinjosh says:

        I’d actually bet on Franson going to the Oilers. It’s a good fit for both player and team. Franson has some pretty good upside and raw talents. He just needs a shot to prove it and that isn’t something he’s been given on Nashville or Toronto. On Edmonton he gets atop 4 time and a top 6 forward core that would support him offensively (on breakout passes, PP time etc).

    • Steven_Leafs0 says:

      Franson and Blacker to potentially have 2 top 10 picks next year? I would do it, especially if we sign Schultz.

  7. reinjosh says:

    So Burke doesn’t think the Leafs are going to pursue Parise/Suter. His reasoning being size with Parise and salary with Suter (since we already have Phaneuf signed to a big contract on the backend). More interesting are his comments about the playoffs.

    “People say if you don’t make the playoffs you are gone. That’s fine. I am not going to do anything short term to make the playoffs and keep my job.

    “I want a parade. I’m not interested in making the playoffs – I want to win another championship.

    “If that means we go with what we have because the price doesn’t make sense, I’m perfectly willing to do that. I’ve gotten fired before. It’s not fun, but . . .”

    Sounds like he’s ok missing the playoffs, getting a high pick and being fired. He seems committed to the long term.

    Thoughts?

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Thoughts?

      Let’s say that is his plan, so his at bestapproach to addresss his team’s shortcomings is to maybe have a bad enough season to get a high pick where he would take the best available player regardless of the position and not trade any of his existing talent for draft picks…

      ba ba boey…

    • mojo19 says:

      I’m just not too sure. I really don’t think we’re going to make the playoffs next year. He doesn’t really have the assets to make the appropriate trades and he’s not interested in free agency. So I really don’t like our chances… It’s kind of discouraging because the Leafs said in their apology letter to the fans that they would use all the resources at their disposal, and do whatever it takes to make the team better, but once again Burke is not going to do that. We need to look at all avenues including free agency, restricted free agency, the draft, and trades, and not limit our options.

    • Steven_Leafs0 says:

      I didn’t get that from those quotes, I got the same message he gave out when he traded Kaberle. He is not willing to give up assets for a one year run and then be screwed for those assets the next year.

      For Example, he is willing to trade 1st round picks for a young elite player like Kessel but is not willing to trade his 1sts for a rental like Jordan Staal or a veteran like Selanne.

      The way I read it, Burke is not willing to take the JFJ approach, no ruining our future to acquire band-aids that may or may not help us squeak into the playoffs with virtually no chance of winning a cup.

      • mojo19 says:

        Well, on that I would agree with you, and I think its good that Burke hasn’t done anything too risky and dealt away young assets for help now. But it doesn’t really explain the whole free-agency thing. Is he just bad at negotiating with free agents? Isn’t that why he surrounded himself with Nonis, Fletcher, Loiselle, Poulin, etc?

        • Steven_Leafs0 says:

          not getting the big free agents does not make him a bad GM. 29 other teams failed to get the same guy each time. All of them were not incompetent were they? (LA failed to get Kovalchuk and they still found a way to win the cup).

          If Burke is really not going to even try to get Parise/Suter and he doesn’t have another move up his sleeve then yes he is making a huge mistake IMO.

          But remember he can’t tell the media that he plans to make a run at them or that he wants them to sign in Toronto without being fined cash and picks. Maybe that’s all it is, maybe he just wants the media focusing on that while he courts Schultz.

          Lets not freak out about this until after they sign shall we? 😛

          • mojo19 says:

            And if one of those other 28 GM’s were the GM of the team I was cheering for, I would criticize him just the same.

            • mojo19 says:

              And actually, its not that many GM’s who have missed. Sather managed to convince 2 of these guys that Burke has missed out in Richards and Gaborik.

              Lou traded a big package for Kovalchuk and also managed to keep him, long term.

              The Canadiens signed Mike Cammalleri.

              The Penguins traded a 7th to sign Vokoun.

              And now another team or two will be added to this winner’s list if they get Parise and/or Suter. And I would include Semin as a prize as well. Potential game breakers, no assets going the other way. Get it done.

              I would even settle for a constellation prize. If my GM were Tallon last year I wouldn’t have criticized him landing a solid goalie in Theodore, and getting a very highly skilled offensive forward, who plays any position up front in Fleischmann, and landing Upshall, and Jovonovski, among others.

              Philly is constantly making big, bold moves to improve the team.

              Buffalo went out and spent to land Leino (didn’t work out, but he’s a good player and he’ll have a better season this year), and gave Ehrhoff the big contract, but got him at a reasonable cap hit.

              Detroit was able to convince Hossa to come on at a reasonable price one year, and were rewarded with a trip the cup. The following year the Hawks landed Hossa with a huge contract.

              So since the beginning of Burke’s tenure here it hasn’t been “29 other GM’s” who have failed to do anything. I think Burke is among the least active and made some of the least significant moves. I believe the criticisms are warranted.

          • mojo19 says:

            Okay, now let’s not freak out. Haha, but I really hope Burke doesn’t just sit back, sign Parros and Prust and call it a day.

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