Entry Draft Discussions

This is the kind of draft that teams build their future on, as many scouts and staff members of teams’ player personelles have said. This is a deep draft, a lot of talent with future players that will help teams succeed in the future. You have any clue on this year’s drafees? Do not worry, we have so many great fans here that know enough about this year’s prospects who can fill you in with good information.

Here are three articles sent in various members, regarding the Entry Draft. Please, do post a question on here if you need some feedback on a certain prospect that interests you. Or, comment on what your team, and/or others as well, needs to pick in this year’s draft. A mock draft has been published by CNN-Sports Illustrated, which should give you a good idea on some prospects. And, there is a pretty interesting draft article sent it, the kind that will make some fans look up information.
SI.com’s 2003 Mock Draft

by great_one98

“Impressive draft class should yield help for many teams.”

(Florida) 1 C Eric Staal Peterborough (OHL) 6’3″ 182 10/29/84

With Olli Jokinen, Matt Cullen and Stephen Weiss, the Panthers are deep up the middle for the next half-decade, but Staal projects to be a better all-around player, and eventually could force Jokinen to the wing on the top line.

(Carolina) 2 G Marc-Andre Fleury Cape Breton (QMJHL) 6’1″ 1/2 172 11/28/84

Less than a month after Patrick Roy ended his career, the next great Quebec netminder officially will begin his. The ‘Canes, Penguins and Kings are all interested in Fleury, the star of the 2003 World Junior Championships, but don’t expect Carolina to deal down unless Los Angeles is willing to give up all three of its first-round picks and a player off its roster.

(Pittsburgh) 3 RW Nikolai Zherdev Central Army (Russia) 6’1″ 186 11/5/84

The Penguins would love to trade up to make sure they can get Fleury, but their minor league cupboard is bare, so they don’t have a lot to deal. If they can’t swing something to grab Fleury, the consolation prize of getting Zherdev at No. 3 isn’t so shabby. Until a disappointing showing at the World Juniors, Zherdev was the odds-on favorite to go first overall.

(Columbus) 4 D Ryan Suter U.S. U-18 team 6’1″ 183 1/21/85

Suter’s father, Bob, played on the 1980 U.S. Miracle on Ice team, and uncle Gary totaled 845 points and 1,327 penalty minutes in 1,145 career NHL games. The Jackets would have a great blueline tandem for the future if they added Suter to continually emerging Rostislav Klesla.

(Buffalo) 5 C Nathan Horton Oshawa (OHL) 6’2″ 201 5/29/85

The Sabres have plenty of skill with Maxim Afinogenov, Daniel Briere, Tim Connolly, J.P. Dumont and Ales Kotalik, but they need to add some crash to their flash. With the balance at the top of this draft, Horton could emerge as the best all-around player of the bunch.

(San Jose) 6 LW Milan Michalek Budejovice (Czech) 6’2″ 205 12/7/84

The Sharks have dealt away a good portion of their once-deep roster and now appear to be wholeheartedly in a rebuilding mode. But with skilled two-way players like Michalek, it shouldn’t take long to get back to the postseason. Like Horton, Michalek could end up being the best player among the Super Six who have distinguished themselves from the pack.

(Nashville) 7 LW Thomas Vanek Minnesota (WCHA) 6’2″ 208 1/19/84

The Golden Gophers won their second straight NCAA title largely because Vanek carried the team on his back during the tournament. He finished his impressive freshman season with 62 points in 45 games, and his draft stock soared as a result of his incredible postseason.

(Atlanta) 8 D Braydon Coburn Portland (WHL) 6’5″ 205 2/27/85

Coburn has been compared favorably to Chris Pronger, which should get Thrashers fans’ hearts racing with hope. While Pasi Nurminen and Byron Dafoe will keep the crease warm for another year, Coburn and Kari Lehtonen should begin their long-term tenure in Atlanta together in 2004-05.

(Calgary) 9 D Dion Phaneuf Red Deer (WHL) 6’2″ 205 4/10/85

Many scouts belive Phaneuf is a better defensive blueliner than either Suter or Coburn, but both are likely to be chosen before Phaneuf based on their more versatile two-way style. Phaneuf has a little bit of Scott Stevens in him — and some Bryan Marchment nastiness, too — though Phaneuf’s shot from the point may be even better than that of the Devils’ captain.

(Montreal) 10 C Zach Parise North Dakota (WCHA) 5’11” 186 7/28/84

Though Vanek stole the headlines with his impressive run at the end of the year, Parise was the best freshman for the first half of the season. The son of 14-year NHLer J.P. Parise has incredible hockey sense and great skills with the puck. He has answered questions about his size and looks to be a top-notch scoring prospect with first-line potential.

(Philly) 11 RW Dustin Brown Guelph (OHL) 6’0″ 195 11/4/84

On a deep team like the Flyers, Brown might not project to be more than a third-line winger, but he has the talent to be a superb character forward. Brown mixes it up enough that he could emerge as a favorite if he reaches the NHL while Ken Hitchcock and Bobby Clarke are still running the organization.

(NYR)12 C Patrick O’Sullivan Mississauga (OHL) 5’11” 190 2/1/85

O’Sullivan is the mystery man of the first round. On talent alone, he might be alongside the premier sextet at the top of the round. But character issues have some teams concerned after he was sent home for a month by his junior team to resolve off-ice issues.

(LA) 13 RW Andrei Kastsitsyn Central Army (Russia) 6’0″ 189 2/3/85

Kastsitsyn made his debut in the top Russian league this season and didn’t look out of place. He was the dominant player on Belarus’ overmatched squad at the World Juniors, but his stock may slip because some teams are worried about the fact he suffers from epilepsy. Without the medical concerns, he may have been a top-10 pick.

(Chicago)14 LW Konstantin Glazachev Yaroslavl Jr. (Russia) 6’0″ 186 2/18/85

Blackhawks general manager Mike Smith must have some Russian blood in his lineage with how often he drafts selects Russian players with his first-round pick. Glazachev lacks the fifth gear that most Russian stars have, but his willingness play physically in the offensive zone gives him a different offensive dimension than a player like Zherdev.

(NYI) 15 C Marc-Antoine Pouliot Rimouski (QJMHL) 6’1″ 188 5/22/85

Like most players who come out of the Q, Pouliot can skate and play with the puck. Unlike most from what is regarded as a soft league, he can also mix it up. Pouliot would do well in the Islanders organization, where defense is valued as much as offense, and his game would likely advance quickly since he could watch and learn from Michael Peca.

(Boston) 16 RW Anthony Stewart Kingston (OHL) 6’1″ 239 1/5/85

Stewart bulked up late in his junior career and his skating suffered as a result. His size makes him tough to knock off the puck, which is something the smallish Bruins lack outside of Mike Knuble and Glen Murray.

(Edmonton) 17 RW Hugh Jessiman Dartmouth (ECAC) 6’4″ 200 3/28/84

Jessiman came onto scouts’ radar screens with a surprising freshman season at Dartmouth, where he put up 47 points in 34 games. His skating ability and hands are impressive for a player of his size, and he could eventually pair up with Brad Isbister to give the Oilers a massive winger tandem on one of their top two lines.

(Washington) 18 LW Jeff Tambellini Michigan (CCHA) 5’11” 186 4/13/84

Tambellini is the son of Canucks VP of player personnel Steve Tambellini, and his game already features NHL savvy. His style is reminiscent of another undersized, but speedy former Michigan Wolverine, John Madden. Tambellini was impressive in the second half of the season, helping to lead Michigan to its third straight Frozen Four appearance.

(Anaheim) 19 C Ryan Getzlaf Calgary (WHL) 6’2 1/2″ 195 5/10/85

The Ducks have proven that character guys can take you a long way. And Getzlaf would be a perfect addition to their organization’s depth chart. With top prospects Joffrey Lupul, Chris Kunitz and Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau vying for first- and second-line duties, two-way players like Getzlaf are just as valuable to a team’s penalty-killing unit and checking lines.

(Minnesota) 20 LW Robert Nilsson Leksand (Sweden) 5’11” 183 1/10/85

The Wild have plenty of offensive talent in their system, but if the son of former Flames great Kent Nilsson is still around when they pick, he would be hard to pass up. Nilsson put up 21 points in 41 games in the Swedish Elite League this season playing mostly as a 17-year-old, breaking Markus Naslund’s mark of 19 set in 1990-91.

(San Jose) 21 C Ryan Kesler Ohio State (CCHA) 6’1 1/2″ 195 8/31/84

Kesler had a so-so season with the Buckeyes, but he was a pleasant surprise playing for the U.S. at the World Juniors. The Sharks are fond of solid two-way players, and Kesler would be a worthy successor to Mike Ricci as San Jose’s top pest.

(New Jersey) 22 D Brent Seabrook Lethbridge (WHL) 6’2 1/2″ 220 4/20/85

The Devils never have lacked physical blueliners, and Seabrook could be an impressive two-way player with another year or two of seasoning. Much like Barret Jackman emerged while playing with Al MacInnis this season, Seabrook would benefit greatly from playing alongside Scott Stevens before the end of his great career.

(Vancouver) 23 C Jeff Carter Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) 6’3″ 182 1/1/85

Carter reminds some scouts of a skinnier version of former Greyhound Joe Thornton, but he needs to fill out his body and get more physical to live up to that lofty comparison. Carter is nimble on his feet and impressive handling the puck, but he needs to add a bit of toughness to his overall games.

(Philly)24 C Dan Fritsche Sarnia (OHL) 6’1″ 198 7/13/85

The Flyers have incredible depth at center, but Jeremy Roenick and Keith Primeau are both 31 or older, so their replacements need to be selected soon. Fritsche would make a nice addition to Philadelphia’s second line some day, thanks to his good puck-carrying skills and natural instincts.

(Tampa Bay) 25 D Richard Stehlik Sherbrooke (QJHML) 6’4″ 245 7/22/84

Wow, seems kind of weird to see the Lightning drafting this late, huh? That’s what a division title will get you. Tampa Bay almost certainly will select a defenseman, given that its trade deadline moves included desperate swaps for Marc Bergevin and Janne Laukkanen in an attempt to add depth on the blueline.

(LA) 26 G Jim Howard Maine (Hockey East) 6’0′ 218 3/26/84

With three first-round picks, the Kings are candidates to try to trade up and get Fleury. But it might make more sense for them to stay put and add three players who are likely to contribute in the future. Howard went 14-6 with a 2.45 GAA and a .916 save percentage as a freshman at Maine, and is the clear No. 2 netminder behind Fleury.

(St.Louis) 27 D Shawn Belle Tri-City (WHL) 6’1′ 220 1/3/85

The Blues are big fans of big, rugged defensemen, so Belle would fit in well in St. Louis. He is a great skater, but his cannon of a slap shot from the point may be his most NHL-ready attribute. The Blues have good depth in the blueline down through their system, but Belle’s offensive awareness and puck-carrying ability should land him in the NHL within three years.

(LA) 28 D Mark Stuart Colorado College (WCHA) 6’1″ 209 4/27/84

The Kings hold this pick after dealing Mathieu Schneider to the Red Wings at the deadline, and odds are they will opt for a blueliner to add to their deep defensive corps in the minors. Stuart is a fitness freak whose game is close to NHL-ready, but he is unspectacular and probably doesn’t project to be more than a No. 4 defensemen.

(Dallas) 29 RW Eric Fehr Brandon (WHL) 6’3′ 187 9/7/85

The Stars are loaded with right wingers, but most of their top forward prospects play on the left side. Fehr is a gritty, but skinny winger who could be an excellent defensive asset once his frame fills out. He may not ever be a 20-goal scorer in the NHL, but he could have a long, steady career on the third line of a good team like Dallas.

(Ottawa) 30 RW Steve Bernier Moncton (QMJHL) 6’2 1/2′ 233 3/31/85

Unless he can play the left side, Steve Bernier might not be too excited about getting chosen by the Sens. With Daniel Alfredsson, Marian Hossa and Martin Havlat already on the right wing, Ottawa has other needs to address. But Bernier’s 101 points in 71 games could be too good to pass up late in the first round.

Best/Worst Draft Choices by the 30 nhl teams

by great_one98

“This will only include the players who were drafted from the 90’s onwards. Part 1 of 3, Anaheim to Colorado.

Let’s Start off, and let’s not call me a moron for not getting the right team and stuff, i’m using nhl.com’s draft list. And this is taking a long time.

Anaheim Mighty Ducks

Best Choice: Paul Kariya

Drafted: 1993(4th Overall)

Kariya is one of the best nhlers today, and is Anaheim’s best player. Has 669 points in 606 games.

Worst Choice: Mikael holmqvist

Drafted: 1997(18th Overall)

Didn’t play much, don’t know much about him but he is retired and not playing in the nhl.

Atlanta Thrashers

Best Choice: Dany Heatley

Drafted: 2000(2nd Overall)

The other player in the dynamic duo, scored 4 goals in the 2003 All-Star game. Racked up a career high 41 goals this past season.

Worst Choice: Patrik Stefan

Drafted:1999(1st Overall)

Hasn’t lived up to his potential yet. They could’ve had Barret Jackman instead. But 1999 was a very weak draft year.

Boston Bruins

Best Choice: Joe Thorton

Drafted: 1997(1st Overall)

Is one of the best power forwards in the game today. Had first 100 point season finishing third in the scoring race.

Worst Choice: Dmitri Kvartalonov

Drafted: 1992(16th Overall)

Did nothing magnificent. Waste of a pick here. But Boston have been successful at most draft years.

Buffalo Sabres:

Best Choice: Keith Tkachuk

Drafted: 1990(19th Overall)

Playing great in St.Louis, I’m not sure if he ever did play a game with Buffalo though. Was traded to Pheonix in 1991. Has had 11 20 goal seasons.

Worst Choice: David Cooper

Drafted: 1992(12th Overall)

I don’t know anything about him, so i won’t bother commenting.

Calgary Flames

Best Choice: Martin Broduer

Drafted: 1990(20th Overall)

Is one of the nhl’s best goalies ever. Never did end up playing in Calgary, sort of like Gigure. Weird, isn’t it? Both in the finals and all.

Wrost Choice: Niklas Sundbland

Drafted: 1991:(19th Overall)

Don’t know anything at all about him. Comment if you happen to actually know anything.

Carolina Hurricanes:

Best Choice: Sergei Samsonov

Drafted: 1997(8th Overall)

Injured last year, had 75 points in last full 82 game season. But wasn’t with Carolina at that point.

Worst Choice: Jeff Heerema

Drafted: 1998(11th Overall)

No comment once again. Comment if you know anything.

Chicago BlackHawks:

Best Choice: Dean Mccamond

Drafted: 1991(22nd Overall)

Not that good of a player, only getting points because of iggy and conroy. Pretty bad draft years by the hawks.

Worst Choice: Steve McCarthy

Drafted: 1999(23nd Overall)

Some guy.

Colorado Avalanche:

Best Choice: Marc Denis

Drafted: 1995(25th Overall)

Close Second is Alex Tanguay. Denis has loads of potential, is a workhorse for the Columbus Blue Jackets and played 77 games last year.

Worst Choice: Mihail Kuleshuv

Drafted: 1999(25th)

Havlat was 26th.

Part 2 will be coming soon. There’s bound to be mistakes in this one. I’ll let you figure them out.

Draft Day Discussion

by rrudd

1. Who’s on your wish list?

2. Who do you think will be an immediate impact player?

3. Who’s a draft day sleeper?

4. Do my Stars have a shot at RW Steve Bernier (ranked #19 by TSN) dropping down to them? The Stars greatest weakness in the farm system is big, scoring wingers. 6’3, 233 lbs., 101 points sounds like he’d fit the bill nicely.

Discuss amongst yourselves.”

48 Responses to Entry Draft Discussions

  1. mikster says:

    I know this was a very long post to submit, but it’s all about one main topic. Obviously i do not expect anyone to ready every bit of it, i almost did, but….you don’t need to have that many doubts on this year’s draft. It’s above average and miles better than previous ones.

    I do not like SI’s mock draft, i think they are quite inacurate, but it’s not that bad since mine would also be inacurate, unless i had a crystal ball telling me the exact order.

    One thing for sure is that the Rangers might not want to get O’Sullivan since he is not a character player. Sather and his scouting staff have been drafting character players like Garth Murray, Jake Taylor, Crabb, Nate Nasty Guenin….Lampman, and unfortunately Ryan Hollweg was the best hard workign character player they drafted, except his career may come to an end from a bad head injury. O’Sullivan is extremely talented, and an awesome playmaker, which is exactly what the Rangers need (too many shooters), and i would not mind if he will be a Ranger, however, Slats may go after a big size forward like Jessiman, or Bernier (who should not be ranked 19th). Also, the Rangers have one of the best Swedish scouts, Rockstrom, and he may convince Slats to draft Nilsson.

    I am crossing my fingers hoping it will be Parise.

    I think the Sabres will end up drafting Vanek. I say Florida will also draft Zherdev, Pens will get Staal. The Flyers, with the 11th overall, will probably draft Dustin Brown.

  2. bender says:

    Thank god we can get to the best part of the year, the NHL Entry Draft. No Trap, No Big Teams hogging the spotlight. Just a bunch of young strapping lads hoping to get into the league and make a difference………………………..Wait did I just ruin my own inocent outlook on the Draft by remembering what a shamful game these boys are now entering into….AH WELL, I’ll dream that the NHL rocks (once again) for a few weeks.

    I do believe Bettman should be handing out CBA Pamplets along with the Jersey’s, and anti-trap rallies should be going on outside, but this is just a small dream of mine………

    Anyways on to the real stuff. I think I’ll take on Rrudd’s questions.

    As a Flyers/Nucks/Oilers fan, I have a lot of wishlists to fulfill. But in the effort of time saving, I’ll just stick to my two first round picks for the Flyers.

    Seeing that this mick draft holds Zach Parise higher than his US junior teammate Dustin Brown, it throws a wrench into the ideal of wanting both of them. Even as a canadian I see the potential in both these players. Even if they never come 40 goal scorers they have the grit, ability and character to add depth to any team. Specially a team like the Flyers, who (against my pleas…thought I would have no one but Hitch) have taken on a trap style coach and are looking to play a game similar to the cup winning Devils in the next few years……..unless monkeys fly out of my butt and they do something about the game.

    Anywho……I’m sure Zach and Dustin with go in the top 20 and since my knowledge of the remaining Draftee’s is limited, I’m going to have to agree that the Fritsche guy does sound like a good prospect for the Flyboys or Bernier, who should be ranked higher.

    For immediate impact player…..I look at Zherdev who will be the guy logging some minutes if he comes to NA.

    I’m not too familar with the guys in the later part of the first round, so I can’t really say who my sleeper would be without taking a guess.

    I think the Stars could get Bernier, but chances are he’ll go a lot sooner.

    The one thing that the Mock doesn’t address, obviously is the possible trade ups that some teams are going to try and pull off. Will there be another Clarke deal and someone sneaks into the top five. Or a Florida deal, putting themselves down and still getting there man.

    Ahh the draft, what a great day of fun and excitement.

  3. Hockeyman93 says:

    Wasn’t Samsonov drafted by Boston? I believe he was, 8th overall, the same year as Thornton. I know he won rookie of the year in Boston.

  4. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Tkachuk was drafted by Buffalo? I just checked NHL.com and it says he was drafted by Winnepeg and stayed with them until being traded to St. Louis after the Phoenix move.

    It also doesn’t say anything about Broduer being drafted by Calgary.

    I’d expect someone to make a trade to move up in the draft. Fluery is going to be looked at by alot of teams, so its possible teams will want to trade up for him. I’d expect Florida to make a move, Dudley has this way of trading good picks, getting something for them, and still ending up with what he wanted. Maybe he can trade 1st over all to give Fluery to someone?

    I’d like Dallas to trade up and get Staal.

  5. Kashin says:

    I don’t like the best worse pick thing. Half the guys don’t stay with their drafting team. Best pick should always be from their team. I can see it already for the Flyers it will probably Forsberg if it works out the way it does.

    I want Zheredev. He is the best winger out there. He will play right away unlike Staal. I hear a lot of Arnott and Macvatchuck whatever his name is for the first pick. THey need a top line player. I love these guys names in the draft can;t pronounce any of them.

    I can see my Isles moving up with 3 2nd round picks and could turn into 4. Maybe even into the top 10. Milbury will also do a draft day trade.

    Draft day has always been interesting because of the trades. When is it? Is it the 20th?

  6. TrojanMan says:

    HOLY CRAP!!! where the hell did great_one98 get his info? Brodeur drafted by Calgary??? Samsonov by Carolina?? Tkachuk by Buffalo???

    How is it someone doing such bad research was still able to get an article printed?

  7. bender says:

    ya, where were you when he was being conceived???

    SCTP – “Tip Em”

  8. swisswing says:

    If the habs get Parise he would be they fourth american drafted by the habs in as many years

    1 Hainsey

    2 Komiserek

    3 Higgens

    now Parise

    at least one of them has to become a super star and not a bust like the habs have had in the last 15 years

    they only valuable drafted player has been Koivu

  9. mikster says:

    Some of you didn’t read carefully enough in the Best-Worst section.

    “Part 2 will be coming soon. There’s bound to be mistakes in this one. I’ll let you figure them out.”

    There’s your answer as to why the Flames picked Brodeur.

  10. Sands says:

    when and what time is it again? anyone?

  11. bender says:

    June 21st and 22nd

    it usually starts around 12:00 est.

  12. pantherboy says:

    I agree, O’Sullivan on the Rangers would be a HUGE mess. The last thing this kid needs is to follow the role of a Lindros, Holik, or Kaspar. A bunch of whinny *bling-bling* hockey players. This kid has that kind of attitude to be one of those, so I sure do hope he goes to a team with a coach who will set him straight.

    I could see the Rangers drafting Nillson, IF he falls that low. He is very underrated from what I have heard about him.

    I don’t see the Panthers getting Zhederev, too weak and no defense, opposite of what they need.

    The Pens will probably either take Fluery or Zherderev or Horton, whatever is avalible.

    I don’t see Stall falling out of the top 2.

    And the Flyers drafting Brown at 11 seems a bit unreaslistic.

  13. pantherboy says:

    I think he was 6th overall, I could be wrong though. Too lazy to check.

  14. pantherboy says:

    Why something with that many mistakes is posted. It would probably be better to figure them out himself.

  15. pantherboy says:

    I have followed this group of prospects this whole year pretty darn close, because knowing the Panthers were going to end up with a good pick, I wanted to see how these prospects produced all year.

    I don’t like “mock drafts” because they are not realistic because there is almost never a draft when they go through the first round with no trades of picks.

    If Florida was to keep their #1 pick (which I think they will not do) it would amaze me if they didn’t select Stall. He is the best positional all-round player in this draft. He is big, can skate, Score, shoot, and throw out the body. The complete package. Even though the Panthers do look pretty bright up the center, Stall would be a welcome impact.

    Fluery would not be selected by Florida, because of Loungo’s presence.

    Zhederev is a player the Panthers are hinting to that they do not really like. Dudly was quoted to saying something like he has no knowledge what-so-ever of the defensive part of the game. He is also selfish with the puck at times. This can have it’s pro’s (Kovochuck) but I think it has been tried in Florida and this plan has failed (See the Pavel Bure era).

    Horton is a player that makes me wonder. HE is the player that the Panthers need the most, a BIG tough powerforward through and through. But he is known to have inconsistent play throughout the year. If the Panthers were to select him, I would see a trade with Columbus or Pittsburgh in the works to snabe him down lower.

    Milachuck at times was ranked the best player in the draft. He is the best two-way player availble, but can also put the puck in the net when needed. I am thinking along the lines of Gaborik, less speed; more defense. I would not mind them lowering in order to select him. A trade with the Sabres would be the best thing to do there.

    I figure this to be a very exciting draft with lots of trades as teams try to jostle their way up the drafting order to get a better pick at these excellent crop of young players.

  16. WildWing89 says:

    Didn’t The Ducks Just Sign Holmqvist?

  17. mikster says:

    Why is Brown at 11 unrealistic?! I think he can fall that far down. Well, ok…maybe higher. It depends how many defensemen go in the top 10.

    And, i still say Zherdev gets 1st!!!!!

  18. mikster says:

    The Canadiens are on their way of domination if they keep it up like this. They’ll have one of the best defenses if they get the right coach too.

  19. mikster says:

    Did it on purpose for you to look up and put in the right answer.

    Beh…. :eyesroll:

  20. OldNord says:

    No he was picked 8th overall from a Carolina pick in the trade of Glen Wesley

  21. swisswing says:

    thats coach is NOT Carbo

  22. CaptainCanada19 says:

    Bernier shoudn’t be ranked 19th?……what do you mean. Where would you put him.

  23. jon95616 says:

    Yeah the Ducks just signed Holmqvist for next year so you can take him off your worst picks list.

  24. OldNord says:

    The worst first round pick for ANA was Chad Kilger…what a bust.

  25. cwthrash says:

    Past couple of months, most Atlanta fans are hoping that Coburn makes it to the 8th pick. Unlike previous years, the possiblity of trading their first pick is higher. Especially in such a deep draft. I don’t have clue one on what the Atlanta scouts and their staff are up to, or who they may be targeting. Waddell is known for making quite a few trades, but in my opinion this one is worth keeping.

    Even though the Atlanta backline will improve physically next year with a healthy Andy Sutton and a human cannonball in Garnet Exelby, having the chance to get a player like Coburn is too much to pass up. I even think it’s too much to pass up if Atlanta only has the chance to get Phaneuf. Defense is obviously a sore spot for Atlanta but with an actual system under Hartley and several young blueliners ready, it may not be as bad as last year’s stats indicate.

    The objective in the draft is usually to take the best player available as determined by your staff. Unless that player can fill a need immediately (upcoming year or the next), it’s still better strategy to take the best available. I don’t think I’ll be disappointed with Atlanta’s first pick, but I’ll probably be a bit happier if it’s Coburn.

    God only knows what’s gonna go down on draft day though. We shall see.

  26. jon95616 says:

    yeah i agree…I think he was a top 5 pick in that draft too?…Ducks were lucky to package him and Tverdovsky for Selanne.

  27. OldNord says:

    Selected fourth, first forward overall.

  28. pantherboy says:

    Me so lazzzzzzy hehe

  29. Gothamcityblueshirts says:

    NHL.com stats that Tkachuk was drafted with Buffalo’s pick does not mean it was Buffalo that drafted him.

    Broduer was drafted by the Flames and Trevor Kidd was drafted by the Devils but were traded for each other in a draft day trade.

    (see its not all button’s fault)

    And Broduer on NHL.com’s list has him as Cal/NJD

    Kidd was the 11th pick Broduer was the 20th pick Greatone’s list is correct he got it from nhl.com.

  30. Gothamcityblueshirts says:

    Again his list came from NHL.com and Broduer was drafted by the flames with the 20th pick and traded to the devils in a trade for Trevor Kidd who jersey had taken at 11.

    His research was taken from nhl.com’s list its not bad research.

    Just you people forgotten about it.

    as for Samsonov was drafted by Boston but it was Carolina’s draft pick part of the wesley trade.

    Tkachuk was taken by the Jets but again it was Buffalo’s pick that was used.

  31. Gothamcityblueshirts says:

    I saw you “experts” Did not know the Flames pick at 20 was Brodeur.

    The devils had the 11th pick and took Trevor Kidd the Flames had the 20th pick and took Brodeur.they were traded for each other and at nhl.com’s list you would see Brodeur name with Cal/NJD and trevor kidd’s with njd/cal

    as for Samsonov he was drafted by the bruins but that pick was hartford’s/Carolina’s as part of the wesley trade and tkachuk was taken with buffalo’s pick does not mean it was that team who took the player.all you have to do is go to nhl.com to check out the facts.

  32. jpmac says:

    Is Cory Locke eligible this year, or is he already drafted…cause if he is eligbile and isn’t drafted then shouldn’t he be in there?

  33. Habfan1234 says:

    Corey Locke is eligible his year. Central Scouting put him 61st overal (3rd round for North American Skaters). The only reason that he is not higher is that he has a lack of size. He is 5 feet 8.5 inches. If he was a few inches taller he would automatically have been picked in the top two rounds. Remember a smallish sized player must prove that he can play in the NHL while a big (height and size wise) must prove that they cannot play in the NHL.

  34. Habfan1234 says:

    The Habs seem to have an affinity for U.S. college hockey players and it may continue for a fourth straight year. I would like the Habs to draft Zach Parise because of his sheer determination and his all around play. He seems to have the same attributes of his dad J.P. but with a lot more skill. The only knock on him is his size but that wont be a problem when he reaches his full time NHL playing weight of 195 to 200 lbs.

  35. rojoke says:

    According to Brodeur’s profile on NHL.com, and I quote, “The Devils first pick (20th overall) in the 1990 Entry Draft, Brodeur played in 77 games in 1995-96, just his third full NHL season.” That leads me to believe that his list is NOT from NHL.com. If the Flames and Devils, or any other teams, traded picks before the draft, it doesn’t matter. The team that calls his name drafted him, not the team that would/could have picked in that position.

  36. rojoke says:

    I think that the guy misread the list. It does say NJ/CGY on the list, but New Jersey made the pick. They got that pick from Calgary, but New Jersey selected him. It even says so on Brodeur’s profile on NHL.com.

  37. rojoke says:

    I could see them dealing that pick if they had the chance to get a good defenseman. I personally would like to see them try and get Danny Markov from Phoenix, or Denis Gauthier from Calgary. A forward prospect and a swap of draft picks might get a trade done.

  38. bender says:

    Some of you guys are missing the point with the whole Best/Worst picks…..

    the guys having some fun….

    Take for example, my cousin Darren Reid was drafted last year by the Tampa Bay Lightning. And pick they drafted him with was originally owed by my Philadelphia Flyers.

    So…..in a weird sort of way, he was once property of the Flyers………NOW DO YOU GUYS SEE!!!

    Jeeze lighten up a little have some fun!!!

  39. BlueJacketshockey says:

    He is a devils pick but what gotham is trying to say it was calgary’s pick that the Devils used to get Broduer.

  40. vasko says:

    The Flyers have enough guys that project as third line centers and wingers. I still think they will trade down a few slots to get an additional second round choice and make Bernier ther first selection. If they keep there 11th pick and O’Sullivan is there, he is their man. Bernier would be there second first round pick.

  41. jpmac says:

    So it looks like he will be a steal for some team

  42. Habfan1234 says:

    Those two defensmen are fine but I would just keep the picks that we have this year and try to obtain a free agent defensmen or two that can actually play defense (unlike the inept and extreamly painful to watch tandem of Reverse and Bries-by). A couple defensmen that I have in mind would be Ken Klee and Jason Wolley. But the top priority for the franchise is to find another team for Bries-by, who, by the way turned down a chance to win another Cup with Jersey.

    The Canadiens are also going to be the lone feeder club for the Bulldogs next year so they need to keep the draft picks in order to have a viable and winning team in Hamilton. It also would not be bad to have a few more high-level prospects in the organization to use as trade bait for any future Stanley Cup aspirations.

    The Habs will in the next three to five years be a serious contender for the Cup. With Gainey having the ability to make astute signings and trades and Savard having the ability to draft players in the draft that turn into great players (Alfredsson) the fans will no longer suffer through inept play on the ice. The future looks bright with Hamilton in the Calder Cup Final (most of their top players are Hab prospects) and Gainey as GM.

    BTW, Do you know anything about the Briesbois situation? Have you heard any rumors about him being traded anytime soon?

  43. Habfan1234 says:

    Whoever takes him will probably have a good player for years to come. If Steve Sullivan, Cliff Ronning, Ray Bourque, Martin St.Louis, Theo Fleury, etc., etc. can make it and excel in the NHL so can Corey Locke. In all likliehood he will be taken in the fourth or fifth round when one factors in the Europeans that will be taken before him.

  44. OldNord says:

    No cause the Flyers might choose another player.

  45. swisswing says:

    i no nothing about breez-by

    he is my opinion ont defence situation

    it’s ok as long as they don’t play traverse

    all you need is patiance

    markov hainsey and komiserek will be as strong as pronger old al and barret jackman in st-louis

    just watch …

    now all we need is a ruff and taugh forward

    if higgens doesn’t turn out good then parise would be a good choice

  46. bender says:

    Eacxtly, if it’s and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all be something something……..what was I saying, oh ya, I’m hungry………I’m gonna go get a taco…….

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