Comments on: Feb 3, 2012 – Mega Hockey Trade Rumors Update

By: MystifoLeafs

MystifoLeafs — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:51:39 +0000

I don't know if it is Wilson said something or just the players realized what they needed to do I mean from day one Steckel has been saying your not going to survive in this league if your taking stupid penalties so I am not sure I would credit it to Wilson but more of the PK specialists who said enough is enough and just raised their voices. Also it is not Wilson who controls the PK I think that falls to the assistants.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:32:40 +0000

I don't think Plekanec is worth that much of a difference between the deals.

Comparing the values:

meh prospect <<< 3rd round pick
Plekanec + 2nd round pick < Voracek + 8th overall pick (IMO)

and I say that last part ignoring the fact that the 8th overall turned out to be Couturier who I believe will be better than Plekanec once he develops.

I think the only way Montreal gets Carter from Columbus is if they are willing to trade their 1st in 2012 and a player equal to or greater than Voracek which would be either Plekanec or Pacioretty (I wouldn't pay it if I were Montreal but that is the only way it gets done IMO).

I think the key to making this deal for Columbus is to get back almost exactly what they gave up value-wise, give or take the 3rd round pick. And since Couturier is looking unbelievable Columbus will not have people comparing Voracek + Couturier to the new player they get and say "damn, they got ripped off".

Anyway that is why I think Plekanec + 2nd + meh prospect would not get it done, it is fair value for Carter right now but Carter's value is at a all time low and having people compare Plekanec to Couturier and Voracek will make the CLB GM look like he failed his team, which will put him out of a job.

By: leafmeister

leafmeister — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:02:57 +0000

I know this isnt popular sentiment on this website, but I think we need to give credit where credit is due. Wilson has really managed to instill discipline into the team. They just don't take very many penalties any more.

If the Leafs could go on a post-all star break tear, as they often do, they will be in great position for the playoffs. A hot streak might be able to see them finish as high as 5th.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:20:29 +0000

Two shutouts in a row for Reimer, another game in 2012 where we allow no PK goals (still perfect in 2012), 2 powerplay goals.

Fantastic game overall. I think Reimer is just going to take this chance and run with it. Gustavsson has been good but Reimer is just better. At the very least its nice to know we have two competent goalies for a change.

By: reinjosh

reinjosh — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:16:25 +0000

I don't agree with you. There is no way Plekanec is worth less than Voracek. He's easily the better player and has shown a higher top end in every side of the game. The first is a first so you can probably downgrade that to a 2nd and another meh prospect to even what they got out.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:05:17 +0000

definitely not enough going to Columbus, they wont accept anything less than what they gave up. I doubt Montreal gives up a potential top 10 pick but cannot see Columbus accepting anything less (Plekanec, 2012 2nd, and a prospect wont get it done IMO, and I highly doubt a 2013 1st would get it done either).

By: LeafsNation4Ever

LeafsNation4Ever — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:13:20 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLmwElcaF7c

By: palindrom

palindrom — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:33:25 +0000

its all about the risk and reward ratio, and in carter case, in my opinion, the reward far outweigh the risk.

By: Boston_Bruins

Boston_Bruins — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:18 +0000

I actually think it supports the Kings that it might have been a coincidence. Still though, something clearly needs to be fixed in LA.

Can't help but feel for Columbus. Absolutely nothing is going right for them.

By: Boston_Bruins

Boston_Bruins — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:15:30 +0000

I love how he kind of slurred big and mac together too, "Bigmac from Macdonald's" lol. It would have been a good advertisement for Mcdonald's until he said it wasn't good and he was sick after.