As I am sure most of you around HTR know this already that I really disliked Ron Wilson from the beginning and that he could not make this team into a winner. Now that he has started leading this team into a downward spiral and STILL can not make the teams PP or PK any better I think its time for me to state the first step in any major rebuild and SHOULD be top priority on any list to help this team. Ron Wilson must go plain and simple, He has made out teams PK be dead last or close to dead last in every season he has been here and has not improved the atmosphere at all. Plus I would like to point out his inability to even spark and amazing cast he had in San Jose to any form of playoff birth but yet some people think he can do the same with a lesser class of players?

Now before anyone says that there is no one out there who could replace this horrid man we have running all our plays I would like to point out a few key names in just a random order I might add…

  1. Pat Quin: What can I say the man brought our team to the playoffs countless times during the late 90’s and even brought us to the final 4 on 2 occasions. He has also won Gold on the International stage with Canada in 2002. He was also the complete opposite of Ron Wilson and would not sell out his players to the media and would stick up for them something old Ronnie would never do. Now I know when in Toronto he never did anything to help the younger core but that should be overlooked by now with his Gold with the Canada Juniors and even though Canada juniors is usually full of studs you still need a coach and to be fair he was fired for no reason.

    1. Dave King: The guy is a young and up coming coach and should be given an chance at the professional level, he works amazing with a young group and could be just what this team needs. He has also worked with the likes of Nazem Kadri before and could be a great thing to have a man who has had him preform amazing in the past coaching him now. It seems to be a trend lately for the coaches of Minor/Junior teams to be given a shot in the NHL and I think it could work for us.
    1. Doug Gilmour: An old face from the past who has taken up the trade of coaching, An once Icon and franchise player of the leafs coming back as a coach could be an amazing thing. Although Doug has little experience as a coach compared to some other prospects but he is still in my opinion way better then Ron Wilson.
    1. Ken Hitch*****: One who I have always liked a a coach and think he could be just what this team needs, A guy who is based around the idea of defensive play and treats his players with the respect they deserve. He has a Stanley Cup ring with the Dallas stars and has been successful in the playoffs on multiple occasions. Would be a guy I would love to see as the new bench boss and by far more qualified then Ron Wilson.

Now if you agree with me and think that Ron Wilson should be fired I recommend that you take the time to sign the following petition created by our very own Mojo (Who I thank for taking the time to put this together.) With enough people we can finally get through that thick skull and ego the size of the sun that Brian Burke has. Here is the link:


  1. dumbassdoorman says:

    Are we talking about Dave King who ia an asst coach in Phx. right now? If so he is far from young, but an excellent coach for young players and a true teacher of the game. I would also add Hunter to that list.

  2. Kramer says:

    Tie Domi for GM. Wade Belak for coach.

  3. 93killer93 says:

    Coach Pat Quinn
    Asst Doug Gilmour
    Asst Dale Hunter

    Hire Ken Hitchc.ock under a management role.

    Quinn is a proven coach, Gilmour would get experince and he could take over after Quinn retires. 

  4. MystifoLeafs says:

    this plan works for me I always liked Pat Quinn and Doug would be interesting Plus Dale Hunter would be ideal. Also I like how you put Ken Hitchc.ock in there as well he was always a coach I liked as I grew up.

  5. 93killer93 says:

    Ya i never liked the Quinn firing, JFJ could'nt ice a good team so Quinn gets the boot because they went one season without making the playoffs.  I think after Hitchc.ock was fired in Columbus he was still a big part of the olympic management team so I wouldn't mind him in that type of role, and depending on how long Quinn would want to coach Hitchc.ock could take over for a couple years if Dougie isn't ready to become head coach.

  6. blaze says:

    I would rather let Wilson finish the year out. The team just isn't that good and I think it's pretty unlikely a coaching change would turn this into a playoff team. Make whatever trades that are beneficial to the future and if Wilson shows no improvement over the course of the year can him in the off-season. A new coach can than teach the team their systems in training camp.

    As for replacements Pat Quinn would not be on my list. He had a great run here but his time has passed.

    Dave King has coached very little in the new NHL I'm not sure if he's the guy to fix this mess but he would be an ok pick.

    Doug Gilmour is just too inexperienced. He'd could make a good assistant maybe but he's not ready to coach TO.

    As for Ken Hitch***** for a team who struggles with offense he is unlikely to change that. Not to mention the Leafs are the youngest team in the league meaning Hitch***** might not be a great fit

    I'm not really sure who I would prefer to coach over Wilson, Dale Hunter is a guy who looks ready for the big show. Guy Boucher is seeming to work out in TBay so maybe an rookie coach could be the way to go for such a young team.

  7. blaze says:

    If Toronto wants to get better they need franchise talent. Tanking next year and beyond is very unlikely with Burke at as GM so that leaves one option, trading. Burke has a history of trading for star talent so there is a precedent. Guys who though a very unlikely that should be targeted are Steven Stamkos and Eric Staal.

    Stamkos is probably the most unlikely but if negotiations don`t come along Burke has to consider a huge offer sheet something like 10y,110m, four 1st rounders are worth Stamkos.

    If Stamkos is impossible another unlikely guy I would go for is Eric Staal. I`m sure he not really available but if Carolina is near the bottom towards the deadline there will be a purge of a bunch of UFA bound vets. This would be the time to offer a huge prospect package for Staal and hope they bite and go for the full rebuild. It would be tough to trade Kadri but for a center of Staals caliber I would clean the prospect cupboard.

    Kadri,Rynnas,Gunnarson,D'Amigo,Blacker,  for   Eric Staal
    Then trade off veterans for future assests,

    Giguere,MacArthur          for   David Steckel, 1st
    Beauchemin,Sjostrom     for   Devon Setoguchi

    The team finishes the year looking like this.

     Kulemin      Staal          Kessel
    Versteeg     Bozak      Setoguchi
      Caputi      Steckel     Armstrong
      Brown        Brent           Orr

             Phaneuf     Schenn
            Komisarek   Kaberle
               Aulie         Lebda

  8. blaze says:

    Oh I forgot Grabo, I`d like to see atleast a second rounder come back for him somewheres at the deadline.

  9. JoelJoel says:

    That's not very fair.. they should have to fight for the GM spot.

    Although, I'm sure the Mafia would fix the fight.

  10. Leafs_RegimeofBurke_ says:

    I wouldn't be so quick to trade Kadri…I get that Staal is coming back but this trade leaves the prospect pool BARREN…a trade like this would scare me quite honestly

  11. Leafs_RegimeofBurke_ says:

    I'd be down for the trade as is, minus Rynnas or minus Kadri. Not both.

  12. Leafs_RegimeofBurke_ says:

    I'd like to give a shout out to RON WILSON for making some risky but effective lineup choices tonight. and thumbs up to phil for stepping up, volunteering for centre, being a threat out there, and banging home the GWG

  13. Leafs_the_word says:

    Ok, we've been playing terrible and we're three games under .500, we're not dead yet, I'm not demanding Wilson's head (and all of you call for patience for a rebuild the paint by numbers way, why not extend Wilson some patience?).  But I throw out some ideas for the fun of it.

    Ted Nolan…. He's the antithesis of the MLSE company man, he'd certainly be a change of direction.  He's also arguably the best coach ever in terms of dealing with young talent and we're among the youngest teams in the league.  A great junior career in coaching, one of the few coaches I'd prefer to Wilson.

    Guy Carbanneau and Doug Gilmour tandem.  Gilmour as the assist, two quality character guys who know how to do all the little things in the game.  Both relatively young for coaches might relate better to young core.

    Jacques Lemaire, just offer him a boat load of money.

  14. MystifoLeafs says:

    Yeah our 2 best prospects at this moment has to be Kadri and Rynnas and although I really like any Staal I think both for him is a bit much.

  15. MystifoLeafs says:

    Leafs I know I may be a bit hard on the guy I just don't like the way he is handling the players and even when they do amazing he still critiques them. Plus he now has no reason for why he kept Kadri down in the minors ( Thank you Don Cherry for pointing that out every Coaches Corner when the Leafs played.) 

    But I personally do not think Ronnie is the right fit for the build of our team and would personally like to see him not behind the bench for a few games. He can stay in the Organization but I am just tired of seeing Roster changes and Line changes in mid game.
  16. grindingleafs says:

    what would you guys think of Craig MacTavish. He did pretty good with the Edmonton. He took them to game 7 finals. hes still kinda young. and worked with youth before.

  17. Boston_Bruins says:

    Only people that deserved to get a point/points out of that game last night were the Leafs and Thomas.

  18. MystifoLeafs says:

    Agreed, I almost wish Toronto went after Tim Thomas now but then we would of had WAY too much wrapped up in Goal.

  19. Leafs_the_word says:

    It's cool, I'm fine to sit in the cold backing Wilson, I like that he demands accountability from the players, it's something this organization needs to combat.  He has no privileged players on his roster.

    As for Don Cherry, he's proved himself unfit to coach an OHL team, he makes for good television nothing more.

  20. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Well, this is almost exactly what I posted a couple of days ago (minus the coaching choices), so obviously I agree.

    In order to evaluate the Leafs…we need them to get them motivated and start developing some value. Coaching could create a new atmosphere and therefore possibly some wins which means if trades are coming, we get more back in return.

    Sorry guys, don't like the Quinn option or King. Both are past their prime. Quinn just had a young team in Edmonton and decided himself that he wasn't the right guy. King has had limited success as a Head Coach in the NHL.

    I would like to see MacTavish ( if Mac T won't do it, then Hunter) with Hunter and Gilmour as assistants. Leave the goalie coach alone but we need a new defence coach. This would put three fairly young and respected guys behind the bench. Mac T and Dougie would motivate while Hunter would send the tougher message when needed.

    New young blood behind the bench to go with the young team. They grow and learn together and as we gather more talent the team will get better.

    Coaching change IS the first step.

    One more thing. Grabo has continued to improve and looks like a legitimate second line centre. Why does everyone want to trade him for a second rounder? A second rounder will probably not be as good as a 45-60 pt second line centre… which is Grabo's potential.

  21. reinjosh says:

    I've been saying that about Grabo for a while.

  22. mojo19 says:

    Stajan, Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Hagman, Mayers, Toskala/Raycroft White etc. as a group had close to the worst record in the NHL. they're all gone and in comes Phaneuf, Versteeg, Giguere, Brown, Kessel (there with both groups) etc. etc. And the new group has one of the worst records in the NHL.

    Two almost completely different teams, neither succesful at all. What is the common denominator here? I'm not going to definitively say that this teams record is all Wilson's fault, but he hasn't really proven anything since coming in. The special teams have been bad, regardless of what player has been out there, and we've just been plain bad for a long time now.

    I don't think firing Wilson would hurt at all. We couldn't really be much worse. So I figure he's on a short leash depsite Burke's comments, and if the team struggles over the next month or so then i have to imagine the team will consider a coaching change. If he can turn things around, relatively, then he'll keep his job for a while longer.

  23. mojo19 says:

    One other thing to consider is that no team with limited talent has ever been succesful by running and gunning. Teams with this make-up have only ever had any kind of success by playing a defense first, attention to detail type of system.

    So before we hold the players accountable, maybe we should consider that the roster is not really all that great, and that the coaching system doesn't really suit this group of players. You can't hold the players accountable for not being able to play a style that they're physcially not capable of playing. This is a coaches job to evaluate and distinguish this.

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