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		<title>By: leaffansareajoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>leaffansareajoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flyers fans are never like that.&#160; We&#039;ve always supported our team, and never once demanded an implosion to get to the&#160;cup.&#160; No matter what we always love our team, unlike those leaf fans who pretend too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flyers fans are never like that.&nbsp; We&#039;ve always supported our team, and never once demanded an implosion to get to the&nbsp;cup.&nbsp; No matter what we always love our team, unlike those leaf fans who pretend too.</p>
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		<title>By: Flyers_Fan_In_LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyers_Fan_In_LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year losing Primeau and Desjardin hurt. Two former C&#039;s that really were the force behind the team. Now they have 4 or 5 former captains (Hatcher, Smyth, Brierre, Timonen) with Gagne and Kanuble as potential C material. That&#039;s a LOT of leadership. Looking to the Jeff Carters and Mike Richards of the world is WAY premature!!!!&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think Pitkanen was a problem otherwise they would have NEVER dealt him. With Kukonen, Coburn and Timonen - they have enough puck moving guys. With Hatcher not expected to score 40 points - Smyth can really also focus on keeping the puck out of the net. THink how that will improve chemistry.&#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;To me the idea that the 3rd and 4th line players will be playing where they belong and that Forsberg is no longer the KEY to the team&#039;s success (even in the unlikely event of a return to Philly) is a real plus.&#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The problem as I see it is that the fans in Philly as well as the overly anxious media will HEAP their Cup or you suck expectations on to a young, new Flyers team that needs some time to gel. Look to after the ALL-Star Break for this team to make a real run. Especially Biron.&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year losing Primeau and Desjardin hurt. Two former C&#039;s that really were the force behind the team. Now they have 4 or 5 former captains (Hatcher, Smyth, Brierre, Timonen) with Gagne and Kanuble as potential C material. That&#039;s a LOT of leadership. Looking to the Jeff Carters and Mike Richards of the world is WAY premature!!!!I think Pitkanen was a problem otherwise they would have NEVER dealt him. With Kukonen, Coburn and Timonen &#8211; they have enough puck moving guys. With Hatcher not expected to score 40 points &#8211; Smyth can really also focus on keeping the puck out of the net. THink how that will improve chemistry.&nbsp;To me the idea that the 3rd and 4th line players will be playing where they belong and that Forsberg is no longer the KEY to the team&#039;s success (even in the unlikely event of a return to Philly) is a real plus.&nbsp;The problem as I see it is that the fans in Philly as well as the overly anxious media will HEAP their Cup or you suck expectations on to a young, new Flyers team that needs some time to gel. Look to after the ALL-Star Break for this team to make a real run. Especially Biron.</p>
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		<title>By: flyerjim</title>
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		<dc:creator>flyerjim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s that secondary scoring that his been their achilles the past few years, then throw in a young (Pitkanen, Coburn, Meyer, Picard, Jones) defense with little experience all at once and we wondered why they were so garbage last year. Their D has been stablized with Timonen and Smith- they can balance the youth and limit the minutes of Hatcher and Gauthier. Timonen is like getting a healthy Desjardins back. We just need to isolate that diamond in the rough whose ready to breakout- my pick is Coburn. If someone can feed him he&#039;s got a hard accurate shot from the back end. Picard is another with a good first pass that if he can step it up to the next level, he&#039;ll help the transition game. Hartnell and Lupul add scoring. The second line won&#039;t be comprised of Jeff Carter and whoever he has chemistry with at that time, but will be a legit second line- with people competing to be there (IE: Upshall). The top line will now be one of the best (top 3) in the league, period. It would have been good without Briere- he makes it that much more dangerous. Lupul will bounce back with the right linemates. I think starting him out on the top two lines will have a big boost in his confidence- we don&#039;t need another Calder. Their PP can&#039;t get worse so there will be an improvement. Holmgren added a great QB on the back end with Timonen and Briere ran Buffalo&#039;s PP from the point similar to Brad Richards in Tampa. If their PK can be as good as last year, special teams will be the best it&#039;s been for a few years. As for Biron, he&#039;s not going to win the Vezina but he&#039;ll be the most consistent goalie the Flyers have had since Hextall. He&#039;s not going to let in the untimely, deflating bad goal that the Esche&#039;s and Cechmanek&#039;s of the past did. He&#039;s sound technically and said to be one of the best locker room guys in the league- not the hot headed, sometimes abrasive presence Esche was. All in all, the core is still there- Gagne, Knuble, Kapenen, Richards, Carter, Umberger, etc. They&#039;ve added hungry guys ready to prove themselves as stars in the league- Hartnell and Lupul. Briere and Timonen are professionals that are added to two different dimensions of the team. Essentially, I agree- I don&#039;t think chemistry will be as big of issue as people are making it out to be. There&#039;s not a big degree of separation from the team last year to the new guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s that secondary scoring that his been their achilles the past few years, then throw in a young (Pitkanen, Coburn, Meyer, Picard, Jones) defense with little experience all at once and we wondered why they were so garbage last year. Their D has been stablized with Timonen and Smith- they can balance the youth and limit the minutes of Hatcher and Gauthier. Timonen is like getting a healthy Desjardins back. We just need to isolate that diamond in the rough whose ready to breakout- my pick is Coburn. If someone can feed him he&#039;s got a hard accurate shot from the back end. Picard is another with a good first pass that if he can step it up to the next level, he&#039;ll help the transition game. Hartnell and Lupul add scoring. The second line won&#039;t be comprised of Jeff Carter and whoever he has chemistry with at that time, but will be a legit second line- with people competing to be there (IE: Upshall). The top line will now be one of the best (top 3) in the league, period. It would have been good without Briere- he makes it that much more dangerous. Lupul will bounce back with the right linemates. I think starting him out on the top two lines will have a big boost in his confidence- we don&#039;t need another Calder. Their PP can&#039;t get worse so there will be an improvement. Holmgren added a great QB on the back end with Timonen and Briere ran Buffalo&#039;s PP from the point similar to Brad Richards in Tampa. If their PK can be as good as last year, special teams will be the best it&#039;s been for a few years. As for Biron, he&#039;s not going to win the Vezina but he&#039;ll be the most consistent goalie the Flyers have had since Hextall. He&#039;s not going to let in the untimely, deflating bad goal that the Esche&#039;s and Cechmanek&#039;s of the past did. He&#039;s sound technically and said to be one of the best locker room guys in the league- not the hot headed, sometimes abrasive presence Esche was. All in all, the core is still there- Gagne, Knuble, Kapenen, Richards, Carter, Umberger, etc. They&#039;ve added hungry guys ready to prove themselves as stars in the league- Hartnell and Lupul. Briere and Timonen are professionals that are added to two different dimensions of the team. Essentially, I agree- I don&#039;t think chemistry will be as big of issue as people are making it out to be. There&#039;s not a big degree of separation from the team last year to the new guys.</p>
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		<title>By: senators101</title>
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		<dc:creator>senators101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think chemistry is going to be a huge deal.&#160; They&#039;re professionals so they better learn how to play with a few new players.&#160; I expect this team to be in the playoffs.&#160; Everything that could have gone wrong last year, did and even more so.&#160; The Flyers weren&#039;t as bad as their point totals suggested.&#160; They&#039;ll be just fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think chemistry is going to be a huge deal.&nbsp; They&#039;re professionals so they better learn how to play with a few new players.&nbsp; I expect this team to be in the playoffs.&nbsp; Everything that could have gone wrong last year, did and even more so.&nbsp; The Flyers weren&#039;t as bad as their point totals suggested.&nbsp; They&#039;ll be just fine.</p>
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		<title>By: leaffansareajoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>leaffansareajoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pitkanen was terrible skating down that left side and just throwing the puck to the middle, knowing his point spot was left wide open.&#160; Will miss his points, but not his talent tahts for sure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m dieing to see the start of this season.&#160; I&#039;ve not been this hyped for the flyers since the start of the 96-97 season.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The biggest question is in net, Can Nitty return to form?&#160; Can Biron lead this squad to the playoffs?&#160; Can the D hold up?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Last season wasn&#039;t a total lose, they had an excellent PK unit.&#160; Which is funny because even though Nity/Exche were the 2 worst goalies in the league last year, they were still top 10.&#160; Thats why i laugh when the leaf fans blame Raycroft.&#160; Raycroft was better than nitty and esche.&#160;&#160; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Stevens to me is another wild card, he talks the talk but can he walk the walk sorta speak.&#160; I&#039;ve known him for a while, as he use to coach in South Jersey and also run some camps in the del. valley.&#160; He was great during on of the press conferences saying that they might not be the best team next year, but they&#039;d be the hardest working team next year.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gagne can score with anyone in center.&#160; Knuble i think might fall back a line or two for a younger quicker guy, but we&#039;ll see how that pans out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Should be an awesome season, with some great games.&#160; Flyers - Rangers.&#160; Flyers - Leafs.&#160; Can&#039;t f&#039;ing wait!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pitkanen was terrible skating down that left side and just throwing the puck to the middle, knowing his point spot was left wide open.&nbsp; Will miss his points, but not his talent tahts for sure.I&#039;m dieing to see the start of this season.&nbsp; I&#039;ve not been this hyped for the flyers since the start of the 96-97 season.The biggest question is in net, Can Nitty return to form?&nbsp; Can Biron lead this squad to the playoffs?&nbsp; Can the D hold up?Last season wasn&#039;t a total lose, they had an excellent PK unit.&nbsp; Which is funny because even though Nity/Exche were the 2 worst goalies in the league last year, they were still top 10.&nbsp; Thats why i laugh when the leaf fans blame Raycroft.&nbsp; Raycroft was better than nitty and esche.&nbsp;&nbsp; John Stevens to me is another wild card, he talks the talk but can he walk the walk sorta speak.&nbsp; I&#039;ve known him for a while, as he use to coach in South Jersey and also run some camps in the del. valley.&nbsp; He was great during on of the press conferences saying that they might not be the best team next year, but they&#039;d be the hardest working team next year.Gagne can score with anyone in center.&nbsp; Knuble i think might fall back a line or two for a younger quicker guy, but we&#039;ll see how that pans out.Should be an awesome season, with some great games.&nbsp; Flyers &#8211; Rangers.&nbsp; Flyers &#8211; Leafs.&nbsp; Can&#039;t f&#039;ing wait!</p>
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		<title>By: turdfergusson</title>
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		<dc:creator>turdfergusson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, They added character guys. Shouldn&#039;t be a problem. This will be one hungry hockey team : )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, They added character guys. Shouldn&#039;t be a problem. This will be one hungry hockey team : )</p>
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		<title>By: max_fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>max_fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gagne and Briere should work very well together.  Smith wil be a great 5 or 6 defenceman, and dynamite in the room.  I&#039;m pretty impressed with the Flyers roster for the up and coming season, however i hope flyer fans don&#039;t expect too much from Lupul, I saw him play my Flames 8 times last year, he is brutal.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gagne and Briere should work very well together.  Smith wil be a great 5 or 6 defenceman, and dynamite in the room.  I&#8217;m pretty impressed with the Flyers roster for the up and coming season, however i hope flyer fans don&#8217;t expect too much from Lupul, I saw him play my Flames 8 times last year, he is brutal&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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