Flyers look as if they're ready to go after Stamkos

LAST THURSDAY, Jeff Carter was sent packing as a salary-cap casualty.

Best friend and captain Mike Richards went only 30 minutes after him, in a move that also – at least temporarily – cleared valuable cap space.

Yesterday, the Flyers dealt the rights to restricted free-agent center Darroll Powe to Minnesota in exchange for a 2013 third-round pick. Powe, a heart-and-soul-type player whom Paul Holmgren called “one of the most underrated players in the league” in May, wasn’t asking for an exorbitant sum of money.

Powe earned $725,000 last season. He probably was looking for a raise to somewhere in the $1 million neighborhood. Nothing earth-shattering.

Earlier in the day, Holmgren announced that the Flyers had come to a new, 2-year agreement with fellow restricted free agent Andreas Nodl for $845,000 per year. That’s interesting, because it’s a $5,000 pay cut from what Nodl earned last year, despite finishing his first full NHL season with 22 points.

Holmgren finished off the day by not extending a qualifying offer to restricted free-agent forward Dan Carcillo, meaning Carcillo will become an unrestricted free agent on Friday.

Notice a trend? Something doesn’t add up.

The Flyers, who have plenty of wiggle room now, with Richards and Carter off the books, are stockpiling money. And it doesn’t mean that they won’t spend to the gills this year.

Holmgren got incredible value for a player he didn’t think was worth the money he was asking for with a third-round pick, but since when is one of the “most underrated players in the league” suddenly not worth an extra $300K or $400K?

Carcillo’s qualifying offer wouldn’t have needed to be much more than a slight raise.

38 Responses to Flyers look as if they're ready to go after Stamkos

  1. Jets_Back says:

    Holy Smokes on Brooks Laich. 6 years $27 million? Really?

    Massive overpayment by the Capitals.

    But, I guess they had no choice. The market, with such a short supply of talent, really made it likely someone else was going to overpay him anyhow.

  2. reinjosh says:

    Why would the Flyers go after Stamkos? It doesn't make any sense. The team already has depth at center in Briere, Giroux, Schenn and now Couturier. They also still need to sign Voracek and Simmonds and another dman. They have only 6.73 million in cap space. Voracek and Simmonds will probably cost around 5 to 5.5 million combined, leaving about 1.2 million for a 7th dman and a tiny bit of wiggle room. 

  3. albertateams says:

    Wow I think they should have let him walk or traded his rights rather than sign him, 4.5 per year. He's a decent player but that's a lot of money for a role player for a lot of years.

  4. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Because they can package Schenn with Couturier along with picks.

  5. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Always nice to see another team shoot themselves in the foot.

    Though if this is an indication of what to expect on the open market look for a lot GMs making horrible decisions.

    Leaf Nation be thankful you don't have JFJ or Fletcher calling the shots.

  6. leafy says:

    They can get more immediate cap relief by moving Versteeg.

  7. blaze says:

    Give Richards 9 mil per. If were going to overpay anyone might as well be the best out there.

  8. MystifoLeafs says:

    Do you really think that Philly are targeting Stamkos? if anything they were clearing cap space to ensure they were not close to the bar after signing bryz. Also I think they were more looking at Laich than Stamkos but with him gone now who knows.

  9. Steven_Leafs says:

    They wont go after Stamkos unless they can trade Versteeg, Schenn + for him. Which then they would have to remove even more cap, likely Briere. One thing for sure, once July 1st hits they are not getting Stamkos at all. They cant afford a 12M offer sheet.

  10. reinjosh says:

    If they had the cap space, they could actually go after him now.

  11. reinjosh says:

    So I think the Leafs have 4 options to fill the first line center need.

    1: Brad Richards – Arguably the most desirable option in terms of assets. All it would cost would be the cash it takes to sign him to a deal. Whether or not he  signs is a different story but he would become the number one center we need. 
    2: The Trade Market – If Richards fails, I wouldn't doubt that Burke would go hard and fast at the trade market. Kicking the tires on Spezza, going after Stastny and even seeing if he could get Vinny to drop his NTC to come to the Leafs. This would all cost more but Burke would be able to fill the need arguably.
    3: Stop-Gap Option: Tim Connolly, Thomas Fleischmann or even Jason Arnott hoping that a center comes up later on the trade market or from the system. 
    4: Do nothing and count on Colborne/Kadri: Probably the least likely option. If it doesn't work out, it could kill the playoffs again (which could be a moderate blessing in disguise with the depth at the draft next year).
  12. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    Heard a rumor of leafs possibly targeting brown from LA? i wouldnt mind this, he has decent offence but plays a very gritty game which i love. Can be a game changer just from his hits.

  13. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    good leadership too for our young players.. dont know what we'd have to give up

  14. MystifoLeafs says:

    Yeah looking at next years draft you have to wonder about the players available two I really like are…

    1. Nail Yakupov He can play like a Burke style player, He scores, he passes and he can throw some punishing hits. Although he is a Russian he is playing in North America in the OHL and is showing he wants to be in the NHL if we did miss the playoffs I am all for picking him.
    2. Mikhail Grigorenko Hes playing over in Russia atm but he is another whole package player, he is getting compared to Malkin and Ovie a lot and is being considered one of the best Russians to come out in years. Where hes not in NA he may go later in the draft but you can never tell.
  15. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Ugh, I pity whomever has to pick up the phone and dial Lombardi.

  16. reinjosh says:

    Yeah, I think I would wait a couple months before calling him. Let the world sort itself and the temporal anomaly that is currently occuring in LA to disappear. Once its gone, things should be back to normal. 

  17. reinjosh says:

    Between Yakupov, Grigorenko and Galchenyuk, the potential for a franchise forward is enormous. Hell, Frk and Forsberg could very well assert themselves in that conversation. Add in the defenders Murray, Ebert, Reinhart, Trouba and Reilly and you could have one of the deepest elite talent drafts in a long, long time. 

    The scary thing with Galchenyuk and Grigorenko (Galchenyuk is actually an American who was born in Canada I think) is that they are late 94 birthdays (relative to the cutoff date). So while Yakupov broke Stamkos' rookie Sarnia record (and is himself incredible to watch), Grigorenko and Galchenyuk could very well be better being almost 9 months younger than Yakupov. 
    I'm trying to look a little in the later part of the draft as I don't expect we shall be in the top 15. I like Jarrod Maidens and Nicolas Kerdilles. Two centers with some decent size to them. 
  18. Leafs_Wallace says:

    I know everyone likes to bash Eklund but he said it best, Lombardi lives a self imposed solipsism in which he believes 'everyone is out to screw him'.

  19. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Or if we get a top ten pick going into next year's draft we can rape another GM and trade that pick for a Carter or Richards.

  20. Kessel_Leafs48 says:

    i think i missed something.. whats going on in la? besides the richards deal i know but i dont understand why its bad, i thought it was a good deal for each team inless im missing something or thats not it? 

  21. Steven_Leafs says:

    very true but it is a big if. can't see the Flyers getting over 10M in cap space

  22. reinjosh says:

    Oh no, we would be getting raped in that deal. You know, first round picks of the Leaf variety always come with the Leafs losing the deal. But when the Leafs get a first round pick, that pick is late first crap, and when another team trades a top ten first rounder its a solid deal. 

  23. reinjosh says:

    Lombardi has never made deals like that before. He usually likes to hoard young prospects and draft picks. He killed that deal and it actually was a trade of a top prospect for a roster player, something he never does. 

    He essentially traded a prospect who might one day reach his upside and a winger who he could replace easy enough, for exactly what they hoped Schenn would become. 
  24. reinjosh says:

    Thats a pretty damn good way of describing Lombardi

  25. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Yeah like when we traded that 4th overall pick that NYI used to get Loungo?

    The truth is that Pierre McGuire is really passionate about teenage boys.

  26. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    There is another option.
    Burke trades for a young NHL centreman with potential. The cost to acquire would be less than a Stastny and with the Leafs being young enough, he has time to develop with the rest of the team.

  27. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Not that I am a Lombardi fan, but isn't hoarding top prospects and picks called re-building?LOL

    Maybe Lombardi has done enough "re-building" and now feels it is time to add.

    Maybe he had a long, long ,long term plan.LOL

  28. hockeylegend488 says:

    wouldnt say he faired very well in the penner deal either especially with the inconsistancy and one yr remaining on his contract

  29. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Nice how after I mused about Erhoff going to NYI where someone might appreciate his game he gets traded there hours later. 

    So Ek's got the orange colored glasses on reporting that a radio station claim that Philly will definitely give an offer sheet to Stamkos.  It's probably a call in show which is the source of an 'e1'.  Then he says Buffalo and Colorado are the dark horses? Yeah, why not just throw Winnipeg and Phoenix in the while you're at it.

    I can't imagine that Burke isn't in the mix if Stamkos is being discussed, if it comes down to trading for his rights, we have more appealing potential draft position.

    Yzerman is saying he'll match anything, if this is the case I hope someone ends up offering Stamkos something north of ten per.

  30. blaze says:

    Gillis can't get a deal done and Erhoff is of to NYI for a 4th. Props to leafs_wallace called that one.

    Vancouver has peaked, Gillis missed his big moment.  Still a very dangerous team but we won't see them in the SCF next year. As for NYI good move, they can afford to overpay bigtime.

  31. blaze says:

    I hope you're right. I just can't see Yzerman letting Stamkos go at any price, that could be like letting go of a young Stevie Y.

  32. Jets_Back says:

    Well Toronto appears to have some options for depth forwards. Maxime Talbot's name has come up as a player Toronto trades right's for.

    Anthony Stewart, who scored 14 goals last year in limited time is an option. He can skate and has good size. Might be a late bloomer.

    Matt D'agostini, like Stewart, was apparently not qualified making him an Unrestricted Free Agent. He has a surprising 20 goal season, and has some sandpaper to his game.

    Of course though Toronto is looking first and foremost at a top line centre.

    Defensively Toronto acquired Liles. Could that mean Toronto moves a defenseman for a forward?

    I wonder what the opinion is now of Luke Schenn after the Regehr trade. There is probably more upside to Schenn's game, at least offensively, but, for a player set to make $3-$4 million per season, which closely resembles Regehr's cap hit, one wonders if there is going to be such high value for Schenn in 2-3 years.

    Yes, Regehr is older. But Schenn is predicted to be a similar player to Regehr. A lockdown defenseman who can be tough and punishing. Schenn though has some offensive upside, possibly making him more a two-way threat.

    With that being said, and how high his value is now, would Toronto benefit from trading Schenn as the centerpiece to acquire a premier top 6 forward?

    This may be something that develops. The first sign is I assume Richards. If Toronto is able to sign him, everything else is moot.

    But, if they fail to sign him, and they've yet to re-sign Schenn, it makes some sense then for Toronto to perhaps look into moving him for that coveted forward.

    If however Schenn re-signs, I doubt Brian Burke decides to do what Doug Wilson did to Devin Setogutchi and trade the player after re-signing him. Thus that would probably take Schenn out of the mix at least for this season. 

    It's going to be an interesting week ahead.

  33. JoelLeafs says:

    Yeah, that Gooch re-sign and trade was very confusing for me. I understand the need in SJ, but after that contract I never would have predicted trading him in the same week!

  34. blaze says:

    If we miss out on Richards Id love to take a flyer out on Connelly. One year at any cap hit.

    He's got oodles of talent that could be interesting with Kessel and the inevitable injuries give a good chance for Kadri/Bozak/Colborne to try out the top line roll.

  35. reinjosh says:

    Did I say it wasn't? My point was simply that all Lombardi has ever done before this deal (and the Penner deal) was hoard picks and prospects. He couldn't make the big move. Not for LA and not for San Jose before that (which was why he was fired by them). He actually looks like a GM that could win something now. 

  36. Leafs_Wallace says:

    Thanks, wish I could have taken credit for this one but I was just joking that two unloved things could make for a perfect marriage.

  37. mojo19 says:

    I just threw up. I sub that on a 3 year deal max. woah, just threw up again

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