Comments on: Habs MIGHT be interested in Oilers Stoll

By: tknez16

tknez16 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:03:57 +0000

Yes you are crazy. In their entire history the Flames and Oilers have never traded between them. It will never happen. Also Calgary will never let Dion go. They will sign him no matter what. He is the newest face of the franchise. Nice daydream for Oilers fans though. Bad trade for Calgary.

By: habsoverserver

habsoverserver — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:43:03 +0000

yes, gainey did a poor job of getting value for ribs. the reason he needed to "get out of town" was that gainey, koivu and carbo didn't know how to get him to mature. meanwhile, habs management was happy to sign players like samsonov, kovalev and brisebois. given ribs' huge upside, they should have figured out a way to help him mature.

until now, montreal has had a habbit of ruiing their most talented players. roy, theodore, turgeon, ribs, malakov, pretty much every skill player has been thrown to the wolves and kicked out of town.

ribeiro is mature enough to be married with four kids, takeover the first line from the greatest US born nhler of all time and sign a 5 year contract.
i don't mind that montreal traded him.. i agree that plekanec is the best forward on the roster, i've thought that for over a year now. i have said all along, he is much more deserving of the A than Higgins.

but i think koivu geeting paid $5.5 million for 3 even strength goals on the first line is pretty much a joke. he has a better chance playing on the third line and becoming a Selke candidate. i don't get why he was given a no trade clause. he's been one of the worst first line centers in the NHL for a few years.

By: ovechkin8

ovechkin8 — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:41:44 +0000

Stoll is struggling in edmonton but he is a huge part of the powerplay and in faceoffs. Hes worth more than what you montreal fans think he is.Kevin Lowe wouldnt send him to montreal id think. Ive heard rumors that Lowe is interested in eric staal and marian hossa. Maybe send him to carolina along with torres and a prospect and one of our NHL ready D-man.
Jarret Stoll
Raffi Torres
Ryan Omarra         Then just sighn Hossa if Atlanta cant get a deal
Denis Grebeshkov   with him
to Carolina for
Eric Staal              Ive heard Dion Phaneuf is rejecting offers from
Tim Gleason                          Calgary. He was born in edmonton and
Joni Pitkanen                                            played hockey here.
Dick Tarnstrom
Dwayne Roloson
to calgary for
Dion Phaneuf

    I might be crazy but our line would look like this:

     Marian Hossa-Eric Staal-Ales Hemsky
     Dustin Penner-Shawn Horcoff-Sam Gagner
     Ethan Moreau-Andrew Cogliano-Fernando Pisani
     Marty Reasoner-Rob Shremp-Zach Stortini

         Dion Phaneuf-Steve Staios
         Sheldon Souray-Matt Greene
         Tom Gilber-Tim Gleason

               Mathieu Garon
               Curtis Joseph

Marian Hossa-7.5                                   Dion Phaneuf-6.2
Eric Staal- 4.25                                         Steve Staios-2.7
Ales Hemsky- 4.2                                   Sheldon Souray-5.6
Dustin Penner- 4.25                                 Matt Greene-1.4
Shawn Horcoff- 3.6                                 Tom Gilbert-1.2
Sam Gagner-0.55                                    Tim Gleason-0.7
Ethan Moreau-2.0                                   Mathieu Garon-1.3
Andrew Cogliano- 0.6                              Curtis Joseph-0.6
Fernando Pisani-2.5
Marty Reasoner-0.95                    Total =50.1
Rob Shremp-0.5
Zach Stortini-0.42

By: careyprice31

careyprice31 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:31:10 +0000

I think so maybe they should trade toskala and raycrtoft and make joseph their evryday goaler what do u think and y not just for fun sign eric lindros out of retiernment oh and give jason allisson another shot because u know those torontonians toronto is a stanley cup contender what do u think?

By: ferron

ferron — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:24:38 +0000

Could Toronto actually do worst?

By: careyprice31

careyprice31 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:10:00 +0000

I think that koivu can be that good second liner.We just need someone good to play with. But i dont mind if we do get an impact center or winger.It's going to make the habs that much better and toronto that much crapier(just felt like saying that)

By: ferron

ferron — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:25:15 +0000

You are right Plek has been our 1st line center since day 1 of the season, Plek has more point than Koivu and double the goals Koivu has! Like you said Koivu should be on the third line.

A Big 2nd line center is what we need and nothing else!

By: darcysucker

darcysucker — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:51:08 +0000

I'm assuming you're referring to Ribs, but who's to say he would've been doing that well in mtl right now, I think he needed to get out of town, and he's matured while in dalas. I don't think it was a mistake to trade him, but the mistake was the player we got in return, Gainey was trying to fill out a spot where they needed help at the time, unfortunately it didn't work out. The other thing with Ribs is that he's not sound defensively, I'd take Plekanec over Ribs. As for Koivu, I think he can play a lot better, his game isn't looking too great lately, he was part of that 3-1 in the third last night, and just shot at the net instead of passing and making the scoring chance better, he also took a penalty with 10 minutes left and boston buzzing, by the way was it me or were the Bruins horrible last night?

By: habsoverserver

habsoverserver — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:35:44 +0000

stoll is not going to take montreal deeper into the playoffs. a second line center or wing might. koivu should be on the third line and special teams.

plekenec centers the defacto first line. koivu, with all three of his even strength goals is the second line center. he belongs on the third line where winning faceoffs makes more of an impact. if montreal had a skilled center to play ahead of koivu they could go further.

the irony is that montreal had a legit first line center top 20 scorer but he got traded for a guy who couldn't even crack the roster.

By: darcysucker

darcysucker — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:00:35 +0000

did anyone of you listen to Gainey's presse conference? He said one of the biggest problems are faceoffs, and if you'd been watching the games you'd notice that as well, and he said if the problem doesn't get solved he'd have to make a move, Stoll is good at faceoffs, so that makes a lot of sense