Have You Got a Deal For Me

So we’re a month into the season, the Habs are in first place, a point in front of Ottawa. Show me anyone who would have picked that when camps broke, and I’ll bet his name is Tommy Flanagan. But even with the success that the team has seen thus far, not all seems content amongst certain Habs fans. There’s some concern about the state of the netminding down at the Phone Booth. I think it has more to do with an off-season rumour mixed with the potential of what could happen next summer as much as anything else.
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We all saw reports of the “trade” that would have sent José Theodore and Michael Ryder to Florida for Roberto Luongo during training camp. It was reported by just about every sportswire in the country. Many said it was as good as done, all that was needed was a date for the press conference. But it never happened. As far as anyone knows, it was never more than a rumour. Hell if half the rumours turned out to be true, the Leafs would have enough players to ice two teams and teams wouldn’t have the players’ names on the jersey anymore because they woudln’t be able to keep up.

With José’s lack-lustre start this season – what else is new – it seems like a lot of that concern is keeping this wish alive. And when you throw in the fact that Luongo is not exactly happy with his current situation in Florida – specifically Mike Keenan – and he’s not signed beyond this season, some are drooling over the possibilities of what might be. But they seemingly don’t want to wait that long. They want Robbie and they want him yesterday.

Well kiddies, here’s the fly in the ointment. Wishing it just doesn’t make it happen. This ain’t NHL06, where you click a couple of buttons and suddenly Luongo’s in a bleu, blanc et rouge uniform. And the other “Mad Mike” isn’t a rookie GM either. He’s not going to get hoodwinked into doing Bob Gainey a solid and just hand him over on a silver platter. It’s going to take quid pro quo. But in all the clamour over “Luongo is better than Theo”, I’ve rarely seen anyone else mentioned when it comes to getting an actual trade done. So here’s the challenge to all those pro-Luongo GMs-in-training. What deal would you make?

But there are a couple of provisos to this challenge. First and foremost, it has to be a realistic deal. So instead of looking at your deal from Gainey’s point of view, I would suggest that you look at it from Keenan’s. If you had Luongo on your team, what would it take for you to trade him tomorrow. Not at the deadline or at the draft, tomorrow. I don’t want to see any Dagenais/Streit-for-Luongo offers, although I’m sure I will. Second, because they are so rare, let’s stay clear from the three-team deals. Since the main issue here is goaltending and the “who’s better” debate, let’s keep it at that. Other than that, it’s up to you. Throw in whatever players on either side you think make a credible deal. We’ll be the judge. And who knows, maybe Mike and Bob will get wind of one of ’em and you’ll get your wish.

p.s. whatever happens after this season, happens


134 Responses to Have You Got a Deal For Me

  1. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    ok it wasnt macabe (thought it was) here is proof the leafs gave away the pick for roberto luongo.

    http://www.hockeynut.com/9798/realdraft97.html

  2. Air33 says:

    Habs are 2nd place overall. why would they make changes?

  3. FLAMESOWNU says:

    I know all he ever talks about is how flames are overrated. He sure shutup after we’ve beaten them twice this year.

  4. mojo19 says:

    Psh. Florida gives up too much. Throw in Kovalev or Koivu to Montreal’s package if you want Bouwmeester and Horton and Luongo.

  5. mojo19 says:

    We didn’t even get McCabe from the Islanders dummy.

    He went to Vancouver in the Linden deal, then to Chicago on the Sedin draft day so the Canucks could get both. We got him straight up for Karpovstev from the Hawks.

  6. mojo19 says:

    money aside, I kind of like that trade.

  7. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    yea i know i did some research i thought it was for mccabe but i guess u got someone else for that draft pick that got luongo.

  8. habs79 says:

    To Florida

    Theodore

    Ribeiro

    Zednick

    Komisarek

    To Montreal

    Luongo

    Horton

    Gelinas

    Stewart

  9. habs79 says:

    I personally am getting sick of seeing Ribeiro fall on his ass all the time givving up chances the other way. If they do make a trade I hope it is him that goes. They won’t though cause he is french. It’s cause of the Habs fans and media that Montreal sucked all those years. They have to have french GMs and coaches no matter how stupid they are. Remember Rejean Houle? Without a doubt the most retarded GM in the history of hockey yet kept his job for 6 years. All because he is french.

  10. habs79 says:

    No way. Change Dagenais to Ribeiro and Bob and Mike could start a conversation.

  11. habs79 says:

    Chipchura can play RW as well.

  12. habs79 says:

    A steal? Highway robber is more like it LOL. Bes thing the Leafs did was dump “Mad Mike” Smith.

  13. wingsfan13 says:

    maybe this

    1st round pick, souray, theodore – lungo, bouwmeester

  14. habs79 says:

    The Habs should have no problem giving up Komisarek.

  15. Habfanforever says:

    are you nuts? the Habs are thin as far as upcoming d-men go. Komisarek needs to stay until you find a fit replacement.

  16. rojoke says:

    I’m not anti-Theodore at all. I’m just as sick of all the “dump Theo” threads that I’ve seen on here and other places, I wanted to see if anyone could come up with a reasonable, bona fide offer. It seems like every other poster wants to get rid of him, but at what price. So far, I haven’t seen anything that would come even close to getting Luongo out of Florida.

  17. Labrosse says:

    Theodore / Dagenais / Souray for Luongo / Horton / Bouwmeester

    wait a minute? have I read correctly?!?!?!

    LetMs make this quick and simple for you :

    * Luongo vs Théo

    pretty much equal but Luongo’s younger andcontract is cheaper

    ***** Horton vs Dagenais

    gotta be kidding me!!! horton is a rising star the kid is 20years old! Dagenais is a minor leaguer, only with the habs beacaus he’s Ribiero’s boyfriend!

    ***** Bouwmeester vs Souray

    Sourray is our wrost defender! only had a good years, this years he seriously s*ck ans is older than bouwmeester who’s a futur Norris winner

    So please in the name of all the habs fans, don’t ever ever say things like that because we are going to have the same reputation as the leafs fans!

  18. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    wow and i thought leaf fans were dillusional. #1 florida wont trade away one of there best prospects. there best young forward and the best goalie for that.

  19. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    if souray can pick it up thats a good deal.

  20. simplyhabby says:

    There has been some great GM’s and coaches but you are right that a person should not stay based on the premise of them being french alone.

    I could not agree with you more with Houle being the worst GM ever!

    Ribs has a great offensive upside and the line is doing better with a 2 way Higgins on the wing. Ribs really needs to work on his skating because he is falling behind on the play so many times.

  21. Muller11 says:

    Ok has anyone been watching the Habs play. You are basing everything on 16 games. Everyone knew that there was going to be a period of time for all players to adapt to the new style of hockey. In my mind Theo has done an ok job and is getting better. Everyone keeps cutting Souray down but look at his personal life. Don’t throw away our best playoff performers in an attempt correct 16 games of hockey over the span of several years. We are first in the east dumba$$e$. There are 82 games to the season and more than one season. Go play your video games and get a life. Montreal is first place in the east. I say bring in a top notch D-man and then see how they perform in the playoffs. It takes ups and downs to create a champion.

  22. SensfanVone says:

    Phaneuf for Calder!!!

  23. SensfanVone says:

    trophy not a trade

  24. SensfanVone says:

    habs also have what? 4 games more played then the sens or else the sens would be first in the North East.

  25. 93champs says:

    hey dickie…I didn’t say you mentioned, I was just stating the obvious, that at least the habs have stuff to trade, not like the laughs….hey moron wheres Peter Forsberg and Markus Naslund….and your right buddy you can say whatever you want….so I’m going to say it how does it feel to have never seen a stanley cup???? Sucker!!!!!!!Oh right don’t talk past right….HABS first overall….LAUGHS 7th…..are you coming to MOntreal to watch the habs/laughs game??? If you are we should meet up and you can tell me to my face that I’m a moron…

  26. Spree says:

    He said it himself; his personal problems are not affecting his game.

  27. Komisarek says:

    Even then…why change anything ? They would still be 4-5th in the conference, not bad for a team with what….6 guys on their team with less then 2 years of experience in the NHL. According to the Habs management, this a re-building year…not too bad…and they have more rookies coming up.

  28. robinson19 says:

    Oh, so he says it, it must be true?

    Isn’t that what Theodore said when his dad and brothers in law were all thrown in jail and he had his one horrible season?

  29. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    a true team has its ups and downs??? didnt detroit get 132 points in one season and win the stanley cup? where are the ups and downs in that?

  30. EmptyNetter says:

    That’s funny. I spit apple on my computer.

  31. red-habs says:

    To Florida: Théodore-Souray-Zednik-Bonk-2nd round

    To Montreal: Luongo-Bouwmeester-Horton

  32. habs79 says:

    You are right most people will forget. Even I have to admit there are some bad ones. However we know that this is wishfull thinking. Leaf fans actually try to past theirs of as actual rumors with the possiblity that the trades will happen.

  33. habs79 says:

    Luongo is gone at the end of the year, right off his value goes down. It becomes take what you can or get nothing.

    Theodore is a high quality goalie. They have a severe lack of offense enter Ribeiro and Zednick, and Komisarek do give them defensive help.

    Montreal will not trade those three without getting something in return, especially when they can wait till the offseason try to sign Luongo if they wanted and then trade Theodore. I chose to put Horton and Stewart in there cause they can both play center and right wing, and that is what Montreal needs.

    Do I think the trade will happen? Of course not it is just wishfull thinking. However before you call someone dillusional take other things into consideration and don’t just look at the players.

  34. rojoke says:

    So after a couple of days of responses and reading most of ’em, I can honestly say I’m not surprised one iota. There wasn’t one viable trade among the lot. I just love it when people think they can trade away a guy that everybody rips, deservedly or not, and get back one of the other team’s best players. I even put it in the original post, but some people just couldn’t help themselves.

    I do have to say that one poster really impressed me because he came up with the name that I was thinking of all along. Luongo is arguably the best player on the Panthers, so my thinking was it would take one of our best players to get one of theirs. I guess no one was willing to admit it to themselves. Either that or it’s just plain ignorance. I’m going with the former.

    Given the performance of of the team thus far, if you really wanted to get Roberto Luongo to Montreal, you would have to be willing to part with either Alexei Kovalev or Andrei Markov. I really think it would be Markov over Kovy simply becuase Markov is younger. They’re the top guys right now, performance wise.

    I even have to laugh at how many included Bouwmeester in there as well, yet there were very few young Habs prospects mentioned. Komisarek got a couple of hits, but I don’t remember seeing Plekanec, Perezhogin, Corey Locke, one of the Kostitsyns, or even Latendresse.

    And just to put a final nail in the coffin. Not only do I think that Gainey won’t make a move until closer to the deadline, depending on the Souray injury anyway, I hope there’s no trade to replace Theodore at all. His performance in the last three or four games is much better than a month ago, as many people expected. We’ll just have to see if Huet can fill the back-up position or if Danis will be recalled.

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