Hawks interested in Samsonov?

The Chicago Blackhawks continue their search for a running mate for Martin Havlat due to the loss of Michael Handzus, reports the Boston Globe.

While the Blackhawks aren’t actively shopping prime defenseman Brent Seabrook, according to one veteran GM, they might consider moving him if the deal is right.

With the likes of such additional young defenders in Duncan Keith and Cam Barker, the Globe hints that Seabrook would bring the biggest return.

With their two prime point men, Andrei Markov and Sheldon Souray, free to walk as of July 1, the Montreal Canadiens could get very interested in Seabrook, the Globe claims.

The paper suggests the Hawks might have interest in Sergei Samsonov, where he would be reunited with Rick Dudley (Hawks Asst. GM), his close pal from their Detroit Vipers days.


44 Responses to Hawks interested in Samsonov?

  1. ThomasHawks says:

    to Chicago : Samsonov, Markov
    to Montreal : Seabrook, Lapointe

  2. Habfanforever says:

         You have got to be kidding me, that would be the worst trade ever, its a good thing your not GM, for Montreal at least. Gainey would never get screwed like that. Samsonov alone is enough for Seabrook who isin't really doing anything this year. Markov is putting up Norris-worthy numbers 22 games into the season. No one wants an overpaid slug like Lapointe anyway. If Gainey wanted to trade Markov, he would get a heck of a lot more than that, I can guarantee you.

  3. Norman280 says:

    more like ….  To Montreal : Seabrook, Sharp     To Chicago : Samsonov

  4. ThomasHawks says:

    Even if hes an unrestrited free agent at the end of the season??We gave Josef Balej for Kovalev, Who was an unrestrited free agent  back then.

  5. ThomasHawks says:

    But i agree Markov is too much for this trade.Samsonov straight up for Seabrook.

    Then u trade one of our 8 D + Abby for a second line centerman
    (Markov, Souray, Dandenault, Rivet, Bouillon, Streit, Komisarek, Niniima)

  6. habsoverserver says:

    every team in the NHL would take Seabrook.  but, i can't see the hawks trading a great youngster for a second line player having an average season. 

    hawks didn't want samsonov when he was a free agent 6 months ago, why would they pay up for him now?

  7. Stuv_Dogg says:

    Doesn't it reflect poorly on a GM to trade a guy you just signed?

    If he isn't performing, why did you sign him?  If he's not fitting into the team, why did you sign him?

    I think the same thing every time someone suggests that Ottawa should trade Gerber or Toronto should trade Gill …

  8. wingerxxx says:

    It never ends.  Seabrook is NOT going to be traded.  Dale Tallon insisted as much in a recent online chat with fans. 

    Think about it.  You are a rebuilding hockey club.  Why on earth would you trade your potential franchise defenseman for anyone, right now?  This "veteran GM" the Globe is quoting is smoking something pretty strong.  Barker…maybe.  I can see that.  Not Seabrook.  Gotta love the November and December rumors. 

  9. cecilturtle says:

    Why would the Hawks trade for a player who could play well with Havlat???  When Havlat has never proven he could stay healthy for a whole season?  Come on Chicago, As soon as you get a player to play with Havlat…  Havlat will go down with an injury.  Just go with youth, insted of ripping yourself off all the time!

    Cecil Turtle

  10. mtlman2005 says:

    do you want all 50 reasons, or just the 2 obvious one?
    They signed Havlat and thats all the needed/wanted. Havlat is out they need someone!
    They want someone to help out havlat when he comes back because handzus is out for the season!

  11. TheFish12 says:

    That is what we hockey fans like to call a salary dump… when rich teams start to suck (or in the Rangers case, have sucked for half a decade) they go into a "rebuilding" phase. In said "rebuilding" phase the rich team (NYR) trade away top level, yet expensieve talents (Kovalev) to other teams for cheap prospects and draft picks (Balej+4th round pick).

    With this established, you cannot compare the deal, and I use that term lightly, you proposed to the NYR-Mtl trade that brought Kovalev to the Habs.  The only reason that Mtl would trade Markov would be because they can't sign him and Souray, and getting Marty Lapointe (who makes 400 000 more then Markov by the way) would not help them sign Souray. 

    Nobody but the hawks would want to have 2.4 million invested in an ageing 30-40 point man.

    Samsonov for Seabrook straight up… maybe throw in a 2-3rd rounder from Montreal and a 3-4th rounder from Chicago to even it out.  But the last thing the Habs need now is another defenseman, they'd be better off trading one of their higher salary defensemen (Rivet) for next to nothing and resigning both Souray and Markov

  12. saku_rulz says:

    well it already has been done in the past……by Gainey! remember a couple years ago…he signs audette with dallas to a long term contract during the summer…2 months later he trades him in mtl…i think a GM is better to admit he made a mistake and make sure the team doesn't pay for it rather than leaving the team in a bad position….im not saying mtl are in a bad position but….if i was gainey, i would admit i did a mistake and try to shop samsonov just for some cap room…knowing next summer there are guys like drury, briere and ryan smth whoa re potentially available!

  13. saku_rulz says:

    well it already has been done in the past……by Gainey! remember a couple years ago…he signs audette with dallas to a long term contract during the summer…2 months later he trades him in mtl…i think a GM is better to admit he made a mistake and make sure the team doesn't pay for it rather than leaving the team in a bad position….im not saying mtl are in a bad position but….if i was gainey, i would admit i did a mistake and try to shop samsonov just for some cap room…knowing next summer there are guys like drury, briere and ryan smth whoa re potentially available!

  14. saku_rulz says:

    chicago could use samsonov because even an average samsonov is better than most forwards on that team! however, giving up brent seabrook i think would be too expensive…but i would take him anytime in MTL!

  15. saku_rulz says:

    chicago could use samsonov because even an average samsonov is better than most forwards on that team! however, giving up brent seabrook i think would be too expensive…but i would take him anytime in MTL!

  16. mtl_prince says:

    as soon as higgins returns to the lineup i could see them trding samsonov, but then again why do we need another defensmen? we could use seabrock a year from now, but not now.

  17. FrankTheTank3388 says:

    Wow I actually heard a rumor with both those players coming to Boston. I heard a trade involving Seabrook for either Mara or Brad Stuart and maybe a pick along with Samsonov for Sturm and maybe a pick. But I don't want to see Samsonov back here…

  18. Uncleben says:

    I can easily see Samsonov going to the Windy City, but it definatley not for Seabrook.  1. MTL doesn't need anymore D 2. Tallon already said he's not going to trade Seabrook.

    A possible trade could be

    MTL gets Vrbata
    CHI gets Samsonov

    Vrbata is young (25), but has experience in the league (4 yrs.).  He has great potential and tremendous hands and vision. A good salary dump for MTL as Vrbata is 1/3 of Samsonov's salary. 
    Samsonov could be that replacement for Havlat/Handzus.

    Rumors also have CHI looking into Anson Carter (not doing so hot in CBJ), Chris Drury (Sabres want to get something for him before he becomes UFA), and Mike Modano (apparently, despite saying otherwise, he is not too happy with loosing his captaincy).

  19. Uncleben says:

    "If he isn't performing, why did you sign him?  If he's not fitting into the team, why did you sign him?"

    They probably didn't sign him knowing he was going to slump…

  20. PhanufRoxs says:

    The Canucks need to make a change and quick so expect them to make a move.

    To Chigaco: Brenden Morrison, Luc Bourdon, Marc Chouinard, Matt Cooke, 1st round pick

    To Vancouver: Brent Seabrook, Tuumo Ruttu, Michael Holmqvist

  21. lynchmob540 says:

    Hillarious!!! You've been using those bad meds again, eh???

  22. lynchmob540 says:

    You're RIGHT on…but why would they want Samsonov? They're looking for someone to play with Havlat…Samsonov can't play with Kovalev…why would he be able to play with Havlat?

    Samsonov for Vandermeer would make more sense.

  23. lynchmob540 says:

    I think it would be silly to trade Seabrook, UNLESS you're getting young talent in return…Samsonov is NOT young!

  24. lynchmob540 says:

    Are you seeing double???

  25. lynchmob540 says:

    Are you seeing double???

  26. lynchmob540 says:

    NO ONE WANTS MORRISON. STOP TRYING TO TRADE THE BUM!!!!

  27. PhanufRoxs says:

    thats why Phoenix almost traded Comerie for Mo straight up. and thats why Calgary, Ottawa, etc want him?

  28. wingerxxx says:

    That's the thing, it's not like Seabrook is a 30 year old veteran.  He is young talent himself.  It makes so little sense to trade him, it's really kind of funny.

  29. gtweb says:

    ummm, no, we aren't trading our top prospect and a 1st rounder for a good young defenseman and an oft-injured centre.

    we would be more likely to trade goaltending prospect than Bourdon…I'm pretty sure LUUUUCCC ain't leaving anytime soon.

  30. habsoverserver says:

    samsonov, cannot make enough of a difference to chicago to get them to the playoffs, he is not a not even a near term fix, forget about a long term fix for the team.  giving up young talent for a guy having a medicore season, knowing you will not make the playoffs, is pretty much as stupid a move as can be made. 

    teams who think they can win NOW give up their future for near term upside, teams that are years away from winning do not give up prospects for aging vets. 

  31. TheFish12 says:

    Why is it that every time there is a trade rumour going on between two teams, you always bring in Vancouver?  And always the same players going from Vancouver to another team.  Do you ever think out these trades before proposing them?  Obviously not, so I'll think it out for you.

    First of all salary wise this does not make sense for Chicago as they take in 6.5 million and loose 3 million dollars in salary.  No way that much of an inbalance is gonna work, unless Vancouver agrees to pay half of Morrison's 3.2 million and half of Cooke's 1.5 million.

    Secondly, let's see if the trade is fair.  Bourdon was a 10th overal selection, Seabrook a 14th overall selecion, so little seperates the two.  Let's throw in Chouinard (experience) and Holmqvist to even out that deal as Seabrook has a good year under his belt.  That leaves Morrison, Cooke and a 1rst rounder for Ruutu.  Ruutu might be a great talent, but he hasn't proved it as he is always injured.  Morrison, as overrated as he is, could be a great second line centre who could fill in for Handzus while he is injured and put up 50 point seasons consistently.  Cooke is one of the premier agitators in the game today, he is the ideal player for the new NHL as fighters get phased out, sandpaper players like him will gain value.  As for the first rounder… Thanks to Kevin Lowe, a first rounder now warrants a goalie with number 1 goalie potential (Roloson) or the equivalent.  So Hawks definently get the better deal, in a very unfair trade.

    Finaly do these teams want to make this trade?  If I'm the hawks, despite getting a much better deal, I do not want to give up on youngsters Seabrook and Ruutu yet.  If im the 'nucks, I look at this trade and decide hat I will never do the drugs I was on when this deal was proposed as I am giving up way to much.

    From now on PhanufRoxs, try to put some thought process into the trades you propose and get out of your fantasy world.

  32. gg_idiot says:

    that trade is pretty bad

  33. gg_idiot says:

    samsonov blows now, gainey should be happy to cut his losses and get like a 2nd or 3rd rounder for that waste, i wouldnt expect seabrooke for samsonov unless some other shit went chicagos way, like some useful shit

  34. BosBrn77 says:

    Coming from an obvious Bruins fan. I liked Samsonov. He had injury problems, but his speed is great. He is just like Murray though, he needs a center who can feed him.

    But for you to say Samsonov is enough for Seabrook…… there is no way in HELL!!! Maybe Samsonov and a 1st round pick. Seabrook has a great future ahead of him, while Samsonov, unfortunately, has peeked.

    I do agree Markov could be worht a lot more. BUT… with him being an UFA at the end of the season, building for the future would be the way to go.

    As for Lapointe. His numbers do not come near what he is being paid. But the guy is a leader. He fights his behind off every game. He is the guy you can depend on giving 100% every single game.

    All in all, add a 3rd rounder going to Montreal, and I think that deal would work.

  35. gg_idiot says:

    Come on, Buffalo is not going to trade their captain! especially on a year they are ripping it up and might win the cup! They'll try and keep Drury!

  36. Stuv_Dogg says:

    This according to whom?  Leafy?  hahahahahahahahahahahaha …

  37. BosBrn77 says:

    I agree, Samsonov is not what Boston needs right now. I could see them trying to go after Seabrook, but even then, why? We have a good young defense right now. That is not what the B's need. They need a goaltender if Hannu doesn't get straight real quick!

    The only guys on the team that I would trade are Mara, Primeau, Donovan, Finley or Suave.

    Brad Stuart should be untouchable. He is playing better hurt then most defensemen we have seen in Boston in years.

    I say this…..

    Bos: Dunham, Witt, and a pick
    NYI: Mara, Finley (and/or) Suave, and a pick.

    The salaries would even out and the Isles would get some youth on the blueline, while Boston get a goalie to platoon with Thomas and adds Witt to take Mara's place.

  38. TheFish12 says:

    Lapointe may be a good leader who works his behind off, but lets see what price tags other players of his ilk have…

    Ian Laperriere (Col) 1.064 million
    Scott Melanby (Atl) 1 million
    Kirk Maltby (Det) 1.368 million

    Point is you can't pay 2.4 million for a guy to provide leadership and work hard… you pay 2.4 million to guy with skill who can post up good numbers to work hard and be a leader.

    Of course nobody would trade Seabrook for Samsonov straight up normally, but given the context surrounding both teams, the fact that the injury riddled Hawks who have only scored 13 goals in 9 games are desperate for a gamebreaker and that Montreal does not need to trade Samsonov, the situation is everything but normal.  Everyone knows that Chicago is desperate, therefore they are going to ask for more then they would normally receive, simple offer-demand theory.

  39. BosBrn77 says:

    I totally agree that Lepointe is over-paid. I'm just saying he is not totally useless. He can put up 20 goals, which isn't enough at his price, but he does lead by example, which helps the youngsters.

    I was responding to the poster who stated Samsonov would be good enough to get Seabrook straight up. No way. Like another poster stated, Samsonov can't produce with Kovalev, how is he suppose to produce with a lesser talent. Seabrook is a young defender who will play 10+ years in the league barring injury, as a top 3 d-man for the Hawks.

    All in all… Seabrook would be a nice addition to the already stacked blueline that Montreal has set for the future.

  40. saku_rulz says:

    correction : samsonov is not TALENT!!!

  41. saku_rulz says:

    correction : samsonov is not TALENT!!!

  42. hattrick44 says:

    These rumors are ridiculos it makes no senses for the habs to make a trade at this time. A trade like this by the habs could ruin there season. They are having a great season so why risk it it makes  no senses  

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