Comments on: Hill a Penguin

By: 08-09

08-09 — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:37:14 +0000

i (92-93/08-09) am a happy, happy man.

By: BruMagnus

BruMagnus — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:19:12 +0000

You know what, I'm not entirely sold on goaltending given the past few years how great goalies (Turco, Luongo) haven't taken their defensively-studded teams far, and teams with only subpar goaltending (Emery, Ward) have made it to the Finals and won…

By: BruMagnus

BruMagnus — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:12:57 +0000

And Pitty with Hossa vs. MTL, I'd take Ottawahow Ottawa manages to win that is beyond me! I'm guessing you meant Pittsburgh… One of those three teams mentioned WILL get a hot goaltender, if not all three even. Thomas Jr. could be pimp too for Boston…

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:34:47 +0000

Obviously Gill got a bad rep because he's a Leaf and all those leaf haters hate him. He's a rock in his own end, and he's put up, what 20+ points this year? He gets a lot of assists (at least this season) because he is a veteran who makes the SMART first pass and starts breakout plays well. He keeps it in at the blueline, he throws big hits in the corners and along the boards. He's not spectacular, but solid, no question about. He'll be very solid for Pittsburgh.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:27:13 +0000

Ya, Gill will be good for Pittsburgh, as someone else pointed out Gill is a good role player for a playoff team.

As for Pitty vs. MTL with Hossa I'd take Pitty

Pitty vs. Ott with Hossa, I'd take Ottawa

And Pitty with Hossa vs. MTL, I'd take Ottawa

And Pitt with Hossa vs. Ottawa, I'd take........Pitty. But I think it'll be close. I like Ottawa's decision to put Murray back behind the bench he did great obviously last year and I think he'll be more likely to get the most out of that talented team.

The Pens could win it all, but I'm a firm believer in a team needing great goaltending to make the finals, so that's my problem with Pitty, MTL, and Ottawa. All three need to get hot goaltending in the playoffs to go far, where as Jersey I'm confident in Brodeur obviously, but other than him in the East, its really just Lunqvist, and Miller the way he's picked it up. (as far as playoff teams are concerned that is, since as we all know Toskala rocks)

By: BruMagnus

BruMagnus — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:08:55 +0000

It was indeed a joke. What I meant to say is that if Fleury wants too much money, he is not irreplaceable.

I may have lowballed a bit, but I think most people highball too much.

Remember that Ray Shero is a smart GM that won't overpay.
We lost Andy Hilbert and even Michel Ouellet, a 48 point scorer, who signed for a mere $1.2 million... because they were too expensive. Has it affected us? Not in the slightest!

By: battpimp

battpimp — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:29:18 +0000

you have also got to adjust for the increase in salary cap. – in this salary cap era rememebr its the average pay – so numbers can be worked to make things pan out - you also have to rememeber paul kayria and teemu salena also went for less money to get a chance to make their move together. the main thing to remeber is hossa has a 20 game +playoff tryout to get a contract – we are all couinting on him being a good fit for us.(for obvious reasons – however there have been situations where things didn't pan out… you think hossa hasn't heard the playoff talk – maybe he has something to proveagain we didn't really lose anything irreplaceable this deal -

By: kamullia

kamullia — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:11:31 +0000

He was thrown under the train by the Leafs brass (not the fans), so why should he care?

By: kamullia

kamullia — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:09:18 +0000

I have no qualms with him being able to do just what you say. My problem is in which century will he get there in order to make a difference. If he goes forward any further than his own blue line, I am not sure he can make it back even if it was my DEAD grandma in a walker.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:06:44 +0000

I dont really like the idea of lying to him but thats the only way I can see them being able to resign him. Hossa will NOT sign for 1 or 2 years. I guarantee that. He will want at least 5 years, if not more. I mostly agree with most of your numbers. I think that you are lowballing a bit though. Just because Sykora called the Pens to play with them doesnt mean he doesnt want fair market value. In todays NHL, a 30 goal scorer/60 point producer IS worth 3 – 4mil a year and he will probably get it on the open market. Same thing with Malone. He probably could fetch 3mil on the market .. he probably doesnt want to leave Pittsburgh but that also doesnt mean he will take a discount. SOME players may follow Crosby's lead but some wont. Gonchar could easily make 5Mil on the market. Again, Im not saying all these players WILL leave but Im saying its possible if the Pens dont pony up some dough.One final thought .. im going to assume your comment about getting Luongo was a joke. If not, you are crazy And I mean that in the nicest possible way.