Holik Tells NHLPA Players To Shut Up

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=100223&hubName=nhl

TSN is reporting NY Rangers checking center, Bobby Holik, is telling his fellow union members to shut their traps in regards to the battle of wills over a new CBA. This comes as New Jersey Devils’ forward John Madden leaked his willingness to play under a cap assuming the games would begin soon. Madden since said the comments were taken out of context.

Holik is a perfect spokesperson for the NHLPA considering he is the poster child for over-paid NHL players. Last year he played 82 games and scored 56 total points according to ESPN.com. He makes an astonishing $9,000,000 per year thanks to a bidding war a few years back.

It is only a matter of time until players start to speak up out of sheer boredom coming from missing the game. Who do you think will be the next to break the union line? JR? Brett Hull? Mario?

Sources: ESPN, InsideHockey.com


44 Responses to Holik Tells NHLPA Players To Shut Up

  1. kingbobert says:

    i’d really like to hear marios side…being owner and player….

    if anyone can come up with a solution for both sides it’s super mario he’s living both sides

  2. GretzNYR99 says:

    Stan Fischler who is an analyst for MSG Network brought that point up about a month ago, saying that Mario should be speaking up being that he has a lot of power in the NHL and could definitely project both sides of the story due to his experience on both sides.

    If anyone can come up with a solution… you’re right, it’s Mario.

  3. hockeyhead says:

    he is upset because…..remember the SCABS for the nfl?

  4. PayUpSucka says:

    Send this bum back to Europe, him and Kasparitis.

    See how they like playing for peanuts and food stamps again.

  5. cgolding says:

    for those looking for Mario’s perspective… and i think we all should be in this situation, don’t hold your breath. seeing as he is an owner he is muted by the fine that Bettman has put down on all management personnel. if he talks about the CBA situation he gets fined 1 mil. so don’t expect a peep from him publicly.

    personally i think they should really have him in on every negotiation since one would think he holds a lot of weight on both sides of the line.

  6. Malurous says:

    Peanuts and food stamps that are ten times more valuable than the money we earn in a year anyway. If they’d go to Russia that is.

  7. Treva says:

    Where does it say that owners are fined 1 Mil if they speak out about the CBA?

    This is the first i have heard about it.

  8. PayUpSucka says:

    True enough.

  9. PayUpSucka says:

    Up to a mill. I think LA’s owner was just slapped with a fine after Bettmans interview on CBC. Don’t think it was a mill though.

  10. nordiques100 says:

    This is a good reason why fan support will decline thanks to this impasse. it would be due to us being sick of supporting and watching something that caters to selfish, egotistical, athletes. a guy like holik who is no more than a 20 goal scorer who is a checker, got a way too extravagant contract and makes 9 million a year to do absolutely nothing. he has not helped the rangers win and was merely a byproduct of a great team in new jersey that had a great system where every player looked good. he is not an impact player deserving of such a huge salary. but to hear him talk about telling other player to keep their opinions to themselves is a disgrace. it just shows how greedy the players are. some players may actually be looking at the good of the game and probably would like to see each party look at all ideas that may work salary cap or not. not all the players will have this tunnel vision of absolutely no cap that goodenow has. i mean if the potential is there for it to work, then they should at least explore the idea rather than say no no no. he sounds so greedy and selfish that it does nothing but turn people off from the game. since the majority of us work to the bone for pennies while they get to play a game for millions makes us not at all support the players position but when you hear them say stuff like this and how they dont have sympathy for the fans and stuff, it makes us hope that the league folds and these selfish weasals lose everything. especially the holik’s of the world who dont deserve anything in the first place. and he is one to talk too as he doesnt want any of his fellow members to turn their back on eachother, but he turned his back on his own home country. he is a joke and a hypocrite.

    and both mario and wayne should get involved but even they will get disrespected by players like holik who think they know it all.

  11. Phillyfanatic says:

    You are correct in the notion that Mario would be a major force, but lets face facts: no one will let him.

    He is not allowed to take part in meetings of the NHLPA because he is also an owner. I wonder if this is the true reason or if the NHLPA is worryed at the ability of Mario to change peoples minds.

    Phillyfanatic has spoken.

  12. habsoverserver says:

    Just to clarify for everyone. The owners locked out the players. The owners do not want to negotiate. They could settle this if they chose. They want to win and are willing to wait as long as possible to get a salary cap and pretty much everything else they need.

    There will be no negotiation. There will be no mediation. The owners do not give a crap if Wayne and Mario could bridge the gap.

    This is not about negotiating. This is about not negotiating.

    The owners know if they negotiate they will lose. They need to force the players to accept what is on the table. They are going to do that by shutting down for as many years as it takes.

  13. 19Yzerman says:

    The league is so watered down that at least 1/3 of the leagues player are NHL scab couldbees.

  14. 19Yzerman says:

    So Bettman told LA’s owner to Pay Up Sucka!!!!LOL

    Thats what I call a GAGG order. The amount is proportional to how pissed Bettman gets about any comments made.

  15. PayUpSucka says:

    Damn straight 19!!! Good one.

  16. 89AlexanderMogilny89 says:

    Wouldn’t it cause a conflict of interest?.Besides when most of players are only seeing dollars and cents it seems to me that only a minor miracle could solve this problem.

    I mean it’s pretty disgusting thing to say to the fans that “Maybe they are jealous”(Quote from Goodenow),and we have players like Holik in the backround doing the 9 million dollar dance in a tu-tu.

  17. CupBoundFlyers says:

    I doubt that, i think they would be willing to negotiate as long as it is resonable…. the problem in my opinion, is that everytime someone prosposes a plan it seems unreasonable and unrealistic.

    The NHL won’t shut down for more than a year gauranteed, how could they? They don’t have the financial means to do so! If they lockout for more than 1 season kiss the NHL goodbye, because they are already crashing and beginning to burn right now as it is.

  18. hockeyhead says:

    that is a good point…no wonder why the nhl has been slipping. maybe if i start skating again i could break the picket line.

  19. Flyers_Fan_In_LA says:

    The players should be working to find ways to make a cap work if the owners – who OWN the teams – are so insistant about a cap. $31,000,000 is a stupid number to start at from the owners but the players aren’t even talking the same language – as Bettman says.

    If they would start talking the same cap language there could be a Larry Bird clause, a higher cap, provisions for increases to the cap ties to revenues of the league. THIS would lead to a deal but the player’s greed and thr owner’s anger from a bad CBA 10 years ago has come to this. Someone needs to speak out. Wayne. Mario, star players. All thogether. At a press conference. Open the dialog.

    I say John Kerry should step in. force the two sides to binding arbitration in the white house. Makes ME want to run for presidient… but then there are those pictures…. :)

  20. wingerxx says:

    If Messier retires, I’ll be annoyed if the Rangers don’t make Holik the captain. He’s really the only guy in that dressing room, other than Messier, who makes others around him accountable for what they say and do. A lot of people don’t like him for what he is being paid…which is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. It’s not like I would turn down a $9 million per year contract if I was a two-way center. I mean, come on. If anyone was in Holik’s place when he was offered that deal, they would have taken it too. People are treating Holik as if it is “his fault” that he is making so much money. That’s just plain ignorant and silly. He can’t carry a team on his back, he never could. But he’s a good piece to the overall puzzle.

  21. habsoverserver says:

    The reason they are (1) making unrealistic proposals and (2) not meeting, is because the owners don’t want to settle.

    The NHL crashing and burning is more a problem for the players than the owners. The owners have alternate sources of income. The owners are playing chicken, knowing that the players cannot holdout for more than one year.

    Last time the owners negotiated, they lost. They don’t want to negotiate.

  22. habsoverserver says:

    No offense intended, but at this point I think John Kerry is only allowed in the White House during public visiting hours. Maybe they could do this at a ketchup factory.

  23. habsoverserver says:

    If Mess and Leetch are both gone then the Blueshirts will open the season w/ out any captain and the best player in the first half will get the C by the All-Star break.

    If it was up to me, I’d give it to Doug Weight and make Mike York and Brian Leetch the assistants. Cuz, if it was up to me, they’d still be Rangers.

  24. 19Yzerman says:

    I have to pay over $200.00 to play on my team for a 23 game season in front of anywhere from 0 to no more than twenty people.

    I will be going to see U of M wolverines play here in ann arbor, mi every chance I get.when normally I go to 3 or 4 times to U of M and 3 or 4 times to a red wings game. So between playing on a team, going NCAA hockey and snowmobilin I will be able to occupy at half of my normal time spent watching NHL.

    So join an adult recreation league , buy a sled and go to some of those Hockey East/ECAC league games.

  25. 19Yzerman says:

    I have heard that over the last few year in anticipation of a lockout. The owners have been paying into a lockout fund from which the owners will be able to draw income from. Also the players pay into it union which has money held for strike/lockout.

    Owners–10 million per team

    Players–$500,000 per player

  26. GretzNYR99 says:

    “we have players like Holik in the backround doing the 9 million dollar dance in a tu-tu.”

    You always humor me, 89.

    Dollars and cents? I don’t think so, not with 75% of the NHL’s revenues going towards player salaries. This isn’t some made up number, I did a research essay last year in my college english class. Players are making enough, they’re just not happy because they see Football, Baseball, and Basketball players being paid twice as more as they get paid. Maybe if they had a clue, and knew that they didn’t bring in the type of money to be paid that much, we wouldn’t be in such a predicament here.

  27. Flyers_Fan_In_LA says:

    I would take Keith Priemeu every time over Holik. $4,000,000 vs $9,000,000. You could toss in a player like Zhamnov or Kariya or Palfy for the difference in price and don’t think for a minute that the Rangers don’t need it. They DO – badly.

  28. Flyers_Fan_In_LA says:

    I think you are right about the white house. That is until January 22, 2005.

  29. titans says:

    Holik is a jackass! Dude neads to actually contribute to his team first, than he can earn the right to tell others what to do! I don’t care if he’s the president of Belgium, he’s been nothing but an overpaid stiff since leaving New Jersey!

  30. hockeyhead says:

    oh it’s true. right now i go to my schools field hockey games, home and away. (i teach) yesterday we had a 0-0 tie. 7 on 7 in ot and it was one of the best games i have ever seen. i get more nervous than a parent. they don’t have the skills of the nhl but these girls play with more heart. we have 8 starting freshman too.

    screw the nhl.

  31. PayUpSucka says:

    You’re right. Comparing Primeau and Holik is like comparing apples with oranges, in this case a rotten orange. Primeau is worth more injured than Holik is healthy.

    I’ve had the misfortune of watching both of them beat my leafs in the post season, Primeau did it mostly by himself, while Holik hid behind the likes of Brodeur and Stevens.

  32. 19Yzerman says:

    2001 NCAA field hockey Champions #7 ranked U of M defeated #1 ranked Maryland 2-0 to win the first ever title in any womens team sport at MICHIGAN. If a WNHL league formed I would buy season tickets if the team was no more then 60 miles from me. I used to go to watch the DARTMOUTH womens team play a lot when I lived in NH.

  33. NjDEVSFN says:

    although i dont care for Holik anymore, hes not a “product of a system where everyone looks great”

    remember, in 1999-2000 and 2000-2001, the Devils were one of the HIGHEST scoring teams in the league. it were these 2 seasons that determined contract sizes for the current devils

    is Brodeur a product of the system? he came in as a rookie, won the Calder, and the Devils scored 306 goals…hmmm, maybe they were just a good team with a good rookie goalie

    was the A-line a product of the system? according to all you idiot fans, the Devils were a trapping team…then why was the A-line the line to beat for 2 years in a row? yes, the line has since been dismantled, but there was no trap with the A-line like there was under Lemaire

    youre gonna tell me that Stevens is a HoF because of the trap too? get your head screwed on right, how many defensemen get on their KNEES to block a shot from close, not many, how many get clocked in the head with a slapshot, return the next game, and score the GWG??? the system doesnt make Stevens look great, Stevens makes Stevens look great

    if the system made everyone look good, how come Neidermayer is the ONLY DEVIL to win the Norris? Why has Brodeur only won the Vezina the last 2 years?

    i guess its not the system that makes them look great

  34. hockeyhead says:

    that is awesome. field hockey in college must be great. the surface they play on is so fast.

    one of our grad seniors from last year is a starting freshman for Iowa. kadi sickel. if they play michigan you should check it out.

    i would like to see the nhl play with one side of their stick.

  35. 19Yzerman says:

    Oct 10th at Iowa. I’ll look for it on local U of M cable channel. Oct 3rd yost ice areana U of M annual intra-squad scrimedge game followed by skate with wolverines session after game. This is where I get a chance to take a first look at the incoming freshmen and speak to players on the ice. TJ Hensick # 7 looked outstanding last year.

  36. 89AlexanderMogilny89 says:

    Both sides are seeing dollars and well no sense what so ever.

    There seems to a lot of posturing going on here.As we all know the NHL will never be as popular as the other 3 big sports in America.I guess the players haven’t come to that conclusion?.

  37. hockeyhead says:

    cool….if they show it or you read about it…let me know here. she scored a goal in her first game….her sister plays for providence and she scored too. the family of five is an athletic juggernaut.

  38. 19Yzerman says:

    I will keep my eye open for those lady Iowa Hawkeyesand keep you posted.My first team practice of the season tonight. Wooooo Hoooo!!!!!!!!

  39. 19Yzerman says:

    NH native I like her already. 16 and Under usa team was good for her. Only 18 WOW! She scored a goal unassisted in her first game as a Hawkeye in a 2-3 loss against Wake Forest. She plays back which must be a deffensive position.

    http://hawkeyesports.collegesports.com/sports/w-fieldh/mtt/sickel_kadi00.html

  40. hockeyhead says:

    that is her….junior olympic squad as well. her sister lauren plays for providence and is just as good. and two twin sisters that play at the high school that i work. freshmen starters.

    four more years. i was so bumbed the last two years when kadi and lauren graduated. they are such athletes it is amazing. they play field hockey like they were skating on ice and able to use both sides of the stick.

    that is what i hate about school sports…they leave.

  41. aafiv says:

    Bobby Holik doesn’t make $9-million a year because he’s a greedy ne’er-do-well. Some jackass owner (Dolan family) approved the ridiculous amount of money the guy makes and he was smart to take it.

    Who among you would have turned that contract down? It’s not Holik’s fault someone threw money at him. How can you possibly think that the players are to blame for this mess?

    The owners want a solution to curb *their own behavior* not the players’. They’re putting the onus of the solution on the players’ backs unfairly.

    Are there greedy players? Sure there are. Alexei Yashin is a perfect example. Why anyone sees value in that jackass is beyond me but there are a lot of others guys who were offered ridiculous money for their abilities – and good for them for taking it too!

    If I were Bobby Holik, I’d be telling the other guys to shut up too. The players have it good and they would be stupid to want to change things. Besides, a lot of teams spend a lot of money and still manage to make money too. It’s only a matter of time before they start getting tired of holding out for the sake of the smaller market teams.

  42. big_booty says:

    There is one reason, and one reason only, that Bobby Holik makes $9 million: Mike Gillis.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1840485

    Follow that link and you’ll see the true evil here.

    A snapshot:

    In the summer of 2001, Holik is awarded $3.5 million in salary arbitration.

    During the 2001-02 season, Devils GM Lou Liamorello offers him a deal that will make him $7 million per season, doubling his salary.

    After the playoffs conclude, Holik feels that $7 million is not enough. Liamorello ups his offer to $8 million per season, effectively matching the contract he gave goalie Martin Brodeur.

    The Toronto Maple Leafs offer Holik a five year, $38 million deal, and are willing to tack on another $2 million.

    The New York Rangers offer $43.75 million over five years, averaging $8.75 million per year, to Gillis and Holik.

    Gillis asks Holik, “Is this what you want?”

    Holik answers, “I want $9 million.”

    Sounds like Holik IS INDEED to blame for this, along with Gillis.

  43. IceyCup says:

    i agree on all points.

  44. IceyCup says:

    i agree on all points.

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