Is this a new beginning!!!

Ed Snider issues win-or-else ultimatum to his Philadelphia Flyers

July 12, 2002

PHILADELPHIA (CP) – The Flyers will be rebuilt if they can’t win with new coach Ken Hitchcock, says club chairman Ed Snider. “We want to see how everything plays out this season with this particular group of players,” says Snider. “If it doesn’t work out this year, then it’s time to go in a different direction.

“If this team can’t win under Ken Hitchcock, then I am convinced it can’t win under anyone.”

After an ousting by the Senator once again. The real question comes up for Flyers fans, Will Snider see this season as a building step for future success or was it a failure and time to have a fire sale and rebuild???

Obviously the Flyers still lack a few components to win a Stanley Cup. Here’s my take.

1) A consistent goalie.

2) A Quarterback for the powerplay, either a defenseman or as many have stated, a creative Center to move the puck around. (a la Alfreddson)

3) More speed both on the Defense and in the Front Line.

4) A couple more D men that can move the puck.

If Snider does decide to strip down and rebuild, then who are the untouchables. In a league where anybody can be moved if the price is right. I feel the short list is a group the Flyers can really build around.

1) Jeremy Roenick – The true leader of this team, the guy played his heart out in this post season.

2) Joni Pitkanen – The missing link that the Flyers have been looking for, for years. He’s Johnnson with more of a physical presense. Could also be our new QB for the PP.

3) Kim Johnnson – Carried the Defense all playoffs and except for the Havlat give away, he played amazing.

4) Justin Williams – In the case of Gagne vs. Williams, where one of them would have to go in order to get something of real value (ie. Iginla, Leetch, Deadmarsh) I think we should keep Justin. The guy has steadily improved and during the playoffs even surprised me with his physical play. He’s a hustler and one day those goals are gonna start to go in.

DO you agree or disagree? Do you think there should be more guys to this list, or less?

For those of you with teams still in the playoffs be glad that you are, and at least give us the respect of dreaming about that old saying, ” There’s always next year.”

108 Responses to Is this a new beginning!!!

  1. TC_4 says:

    Well, you know what I think of him, but really, who else is there?

  2. TC_4 says:

    Good point, one good season in three(too bad he’s played 4 seasons). Did you know that Wayne Gretzky only had ONE 215 point season, that guy was terrible too!

    Gange point totals:


    season 1)80-20-28-48

    season 2)69-27-32-59

    season 3)79-33-33-66

    season 4)46-9-18-27

    Why would you want to trade one of your leading playoff scorers??? Why would you want to trade a guy just because he had one down year? How do you expect him to play well when he was hurt for 50% of the season(add to that the games that his GM told him to “suck it up, you don’t want to look like that pussy Lindros do you?” So trade him to Edmonton for Fernando Pisani or Ethan Moreau. There more “your” kind of players.

  3. defenestrate says:


    (okay, where’s my 20 bucks??)

    CTP – somos vatos locos

  4. Flyers_UK says:

    Wow… how about that?

  5. goodfela26 says:

    I don’t think Therien is useless, but he plays alot smaller than he is. He’s listed at 6-5, 230 lbs, and rarely hits. Sami Kapanen, listed at 5-10, 180 lbs, seemed like he had bigger hits in his short time here than Therien had all season.

    I don’t think he instills the fear in forwards skating to his side that a guy his size should instill. Look at the respect guys like Stevens, Hatcher, and Pronger get. Forwards try to shy away from them for the most part. Not so with Therien b/c they don’t fear him.

    What Therien is really good for is playing against Jagr, but I don’t think we need to worry about that too much, since he’s not in the all out offensive system of Pittsburgh any longer.

  6. goodfela26 says:

    Gagne, through his 1st 4 seasons, actually has more points in fewer games than Iginla. I think all too often, many people are ready to give up on someone when they don’t score 100 pts a season within 5 years.

  7. goodfela26 says:

    I guess that pretty much answers any questions as to the goaltender issue.

    But I think Clarkie screwed himself when he said he doesn’t know if Cechmanek wants to play in the NHL anymore. When shopping someone, that should be the LAST thing to say!

  8. goodfela26 says:

    Clarification: Gagne has more points in fewer games through his 1st 4 seasons than Iginla had in his 1st 4 seasons.

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