Islanders willing to trade their 5th overall pick?

For the first time since the Collapse-and-Rebuild began in 2008, the Islanders are dangling their first round draft pick as trade bait. NHL sources have told Point Blank that general manager Garth Snow will listen to offers for the fifth overall pick in the 2011 draft.

The team is determined to upgrade the current roster in order to make next year’s playoffs. Snow, chief deputy Doug Weight and owner Charles Wang have prioritized adding at least one productive and experienced forward capable of shifting the slow and steady rebuild into overdrive. If the right player is made available, the Islanders will not hesitate to relinquish their rights to draft a talented 18-year-old prospect on the draft floor in Minnesota on Friday night, June 24.

Flyers center/right wing Jeff Carter fits the profile in terms of age (26) and ability (he has averaged 38 goals over the last 3 seasons). However, his salary ($5.2 million cap hit), DiPietrovian term (he is signed for the next 11 years) and temperament (sometimes pouty) should rule him out. Carter does not seem like a player willing to be part of a struggling franchise’s solution.

13 Responses to Islanders willing to trade their 5th overall pick?

  1. Jets_Back says:

    I can't blame them because after Landeskog, Larsson, Huberdeau and Hopkins, players picked from 5-12 are pretty well interchangeable.

    They include: Hamilton, Couturier, Murphy, Zibanejad, Strome, Beaulieu, Bartschi, Seimens, Oleksiak.

    I don't believe the Islanders though would trade out of the top 10. I think they would do much like they did a few years ago where they traded down twice, ended up with Josh Bailey and a slew of extra picks.

    Their target I believe is Sven Bartschi. I dont believe he is worthy of being a top 5, so moving down, getting some extra assets is a great idea.

  2. TheOnlyIslesFan says:

    I agree with you whole heartidly that the taget is El Nino's linemate in Portland – but I also don't see Snow moving the pick for a real impact player – I mean it is a top 5 pick and all but let's be realistic is anyone going to move an established semi-impact player for a shot at a guy who may or may not make the NHL and if he does could easily be the next Wayne Primeau or Rob Niedermayer?

  3. Jets_Back says:

    no, probably not moving the pick for a player. I dont think this draft is worthy of that unless we're talking the top 3 picks.

    Likely moving the pick to move down in the draft, and grab 2 extra picks in later rounds….or later years.

    That is a smart move to me as it is getting the guy you want, but also some extra assets.

  4. lukeleim says:

    ROUND 1

    1. EDM- Ryan Nugent-Hopkins – Center (WHL) Red Deer, 6'0" 170 lbs

    2. COL- Jonathan Huberdeau – Center/LW (QMJHL) Saint Johns, 6'1" 170 lbs

    3. FLA- Gabriel Landeskog – Left Winger (OHL) Kitchener, 6'0" 207lbs

    4. NJD- Adam Larsson – Defence (SWE) Skelleftea, 6'2" 200lbs

    5. NYI- Dougie Hamilton – Defence (OHL) Niagara, 6'4" 193lbs

    6. OTT- Ryan Strome – Center (OHL) Niagara, 5'11" 160lbs

    7. WPG- Sean Couturier – Center (QMJHL) Drummondville, 6'4" 195lbs

    8. CBJ- Nathan Beaulieu – Defence (QMJHL) Saint Johns, 6'3" 191lbs

    9. BOS- Ryan Murphy – Defence (OHL) Kitchener, 5'10" 160lbs

    10. MIN- Zibanejad – Center (SWE) Djurgårdens, 6'1" 183lbs

    11. COL- Duncan Siemens – Defence (WHL) Saskatoon, 6'3", 192lbs

    12. CAR- Mark McNeill – Center (WHL) Prince Albert, 6'2" 210lbs

    13. Cal- Sven Bartschi – Left Winger (WHL) Portland, 5'10" 185lbs

    14. Dal- Joseph Morrow – Defence (WHL) Portland, 6'0" 197lbs

    15. NYR- John Gibson – Goaltender (USHL) USA U-18, 6'2 188lbs

    16. BUF- Jamieson Oleksiak – Defence (H-east) Northeastern, 6'7" 244lbs

    17. MTL- Zack Phillips – Center (QMJHL) Saint Johns, 6'0" 180lbs

    18. CHI- Jonas Brodin – Defence (SWE) Färjestad, 6'1" 165lbs

    19. EDM- Boone Jenner – Center (OHL) Oshawa, 6'1" 193lbs

    20. PHO- Nicklas Jensen – Left Winger (OHL) Oshawa, 6'2" 187lbs

    21. OTT- Oscar Klefbom – Defence (SWE) Färjestad, 6'3" 194lbs

    22. ANA- Joel Arima – Right Winger (FIN) Ässät, 6'2" 183lbs

    23. PIT- Tomas Jurco – Right Winger (QMJHL) Saint Johns, 6'0" 175lbs

    24. DET- Brandon Saad – Left Winger (OHL) Saginaw, 6'2" 200lbs

    25. TOR- Ty Rattie – Right Winger (WHL) Portland, 6'0" 167lbs

    26. WAS- Mark Scheifele – Center (OHL) Barrie, 6'2" 177lbs

    27. TBL- Jonathan Miller – Center (US) NTDP, 6'1" 198lbs

    28. SJS- Scott Mayfield – Defence (USHL) Youngstown, 6'4" 175lbs

    29. TOR- Matt Puempel – Left Winger (OHL) Peterborough, 6'0" 190lbs

    30. VAN- Stuart Percy – Defence (OHL) Mississauga, 6'1" 175lbs

    ROUND 2

    31. EDM- Ryan Sproul – Defence (OHL) Sault Ste.Marie, 6'4" 190lbs

    32. STL- Tyler Biggs – Right Winger (US) NTDP, 6'2" 202lbs

    33. FLA- Philip Danault – Left Winger (QMJHL) Victoriaville, 5'11" 162lbs

    34. NYI- Vladislav Namestnikov – Right Winger (OHL) London, 6'0" 163lbs

    35. OTT- Brett Ritchie – Right Winger (OHL) Sarnia, 6'3" 210lbs

    36. CHI- David Musil – Defence (WHL) Vancouver, 6'3" 191lbs

    37. CBJ- Dmitrij Jaskin – Right Winger (CZE .JR) Slavia, 6'1" 195lbs

    38. NAS- Alexander Khokhlachev – Left Winger (OHL) Windsor, 5'11" 176lbs

    39. TOR- Victor Rask – Center (SWE) Leksands, 6'2" 194lbs

    40. BOS- Rickard Rakell – Right Winger (OHL) Plymouth, 6'1" 190

    41. STL- Daniel Catenacci – Center (OHL) Sault Ste. Marie, 5'10" 180lbs

    42. CAR- Nikita Kucherov – Left Winger (Rus jr.) CSKA 2, 5'10" 163lbs

    43. CHI- Shane Prince – Center (OHL) Ottawa, 5'10" 180lbs

    44. DAL- Rocco Grimaldi – Forward (USHL) US U-18, 5'6" 157lbs

    45. CAL- Cristopher Gibson – Goaltender (QMJHL) Chicoutimi, 6'0" 185lbs

    46. STL- Xavier Ouellet – Defence (QMJHL) Montreal, 6'0" 174lbs

    47. FLA- Nick Cousins – Center (OHL) Sault Ste. Marie, 5'9" 155lbs

    48. CHI- Michael St.Croix – Center (WHL) Edmonton, 5'11" 163lbs

    49. LAK- Mario Lucia – Left Winger (HIGH-MN) Wayzata, 6'2" 185lbs

    50. NYI- Lucas Lessio – Left Winger (OHL) Oshawa, 6'1" 187lbs

    51. PHO- Scott Harrington – Defence (OHL) London, 6'1" 190lbs

    52. NAS- Samu Perhonen – Goaltender (Fin-JR.) Jyp Jr. , 6'3" 175lbs

    53. ANA- Stefan Noesen – Right Winger (OHL) Plymouth, 6'0" 195lbs

    54. PIT- Joel Edmunson – Defence (WHL) MooseJaw, 6'4" 190lbs

    55. DET- Connor Murphy – Defence (USHL) US U-18, 6'3 185lbs

    56. PHO- Seth Ambroz – Right Winger (USHL) Omaha, 6'3" 198lbs

    57. CAL- Matthew Nieto – Left Winger (NCAA) Boston U, 5'11" 175lbs

    58. TBL- Robbie Russo – Defence (USHL) US U-18, 6'0" 180lbs

    59. SJS- Nick Shore – Forward (WCHA) U of Denver, 6'0" 190lbs

    60. OTT- Vincent Trocheck – Center (OHL) Saginaw, 5'10" 165lbs

    61. VAN- Adam Clendening – Defence (NCAA) Boston U, 5'11" 187lbs

  5. Jets_Back says:

    Nice list.

    I really like Landeskog with the Avs. Him and Duchene could be the next kind of Datsyuk/Zetterberg. Players who can do anything, in any role and do it at or near the best.

    Huberdeau would be a nice catch for the Panthers then, but, I really think Ottawa would love to land this kid to centerpiece their rebuild.

    I feel Florida and the Islanders both will trade down. If I am the Avs, i'd pounce on that and perhaps land 2 players in the top 5.

    If I am Montreal, I'd trade up to try for Couturier. A French Canadian with potential star talent would be awesome for them. Does the risk averse Pierre Gauthier have the balls to do it though?

    If the Oilers do take Hopkins 1st, I hope they trade up from 19th overall to get Oleksiak. This kid I think will be a beast.

    For Toronto fans, it may in 5 years be tough to take seeing both Seguin and maybe Zibanejad torching them as Boston Bruins. If he is there at 9, I'd take him. I believe he is the player shooting up the rankings the most.

    I hope Toronto trades up. Mark McNeill would be a nice catch. If they do manage to keep one of their late firsts still, I wouldn't be surprised if one of those burly American Forwards like Saad or Biggs throws on the Leafs jersey.

    For Calgary, maybe Zach Phillips will be available. He'd be a nice pick and someone with high skill up front which is a major need for them.

    Depending on tonight, Vancouver could end up with the last pick. But my guess is they trade out and end up with extra picks in later rounds. Really not much separating players at that pick so why not get some extra assets. They could as well make a big splash. They did last year with the Ballard trade though it didn't turn out well.

  6. cam7777 says:

    They say Zibanejad is now a lottery pick selection, so he may not be there for the Bruins.  I really hope the Jets take him at 7.  If Bogosian still wants out, maybe they should ship him to the Island for that 5th overall pick.

    I think Boston will draft Oleksiak.  They'll want that beast to learn from Chara before he retires.  There is an opportunity there for a seamless transition. 

    It sounds to me like Colorado is most interested in RNH.  Makes sense when you consider all the rumors about their financial situation (according to Forbes, the owner was having difficulty making minimum interest payments on the arena), and the possible availibility of Stastny's expensive deal, drafting that center makes a lot of sense.

    Florida will likely end up with Huberdeau or Landeskog, and they better hope they are all they're cracked up to be.  I would trade Weiss and Booth at the deadline this year and try to get the 1st overall next season if I were them.  Pick up Yakupov, then they could be ready to move in the right direction:


    plus whatever they get for Weiss and Booth – they'll be good to go.

  7. Jets_Back says:

    The thing is…

    a) will anyone care in Florida
    b) who's going to own them?
    c) will Tallon bobble transactions up again like he did in Chicago and those RFAs, and with Grabner?
    d) would anyone notice he bobbled?

    Forget Phoenix. lets get this poorly run franchise out of Florida. I'd welcome a return of yet another WHA team…..the Whalers.

    Do you if you are Colorado:

    a) do a switcharoo with Edmonton and trade 2nd and 11th for 1st and 19th?


    b) attempt to use 11th to get either 5th from NY or 3rd from Florida?

    Probably after Hopkins, the next 8 or 9 guys are rather interchangeable and either one of them could be in the mix to go 2nd….or 10th. Definitely not 2003, but this is by all accounts a decent, deep draft of solid guys.

  8. cam7777 says:

    I just still if I'm Colorado.  I'd be happy with Larsson, Landeskog or RNH if I was them, so why bother moving another pick down?  Move Stastny for more picks if you want them – Burke confirmed today he would trade his two 1sts and 2nd for a center if one was to become available.  If the rumors of their financial peril are true (and forbes is pretty reliable I'd say), then they can't expect much more than that.

    Probably no one will care about Florida, and I would prefer they move also.  I get the sense they are being readied for an eventual move to Quebec though.  I also don't think Tallon is to be blamed for any of the mismanagement in Chicago.  It's my opinion that Bowman has done a horrendous job in Tallon's absence.  If you listen to what Havlat had to say about the situation after he signed with Minnie, it sounds like Tallon was forced to sign Campbell and Hossa to the contracts he did.

    Granted, he did trade Frolik for a bag of pucks and lose Grabner to waivers, so he is not without his faults.  I don't think anyone saw Grabner breaking out like that though, in his defence. 

    As a Winnipegger, I'm just hoping my franchise ends up with Zibanejad.

  9. Jets_Back says:

    No matter who Winnipeg drafts, they're getting a player fans will care about.

    I bet tons of Manitobans will know all these players already where in Atlanta they'd confuse Zibanejad with Zinadine Zindane, the footballer.

    If the Avs really do want Hopkins, i think they'd do it but it would probably be hard for Edmonton to pass on a Westerner.

    I think just letting Grabner go on waivers was short sighted. Ya probably not ROY no one expected but the kid had skill, not something we can say with clarity about the Panther's forwards currently.

    Getting Leddy and Frolik were good moves, but not bringing in character and toughness and trading all of it away was a very poor choice by Bowman. Keep in mind his dad was not a good GM either.

    I hope Winnipeg trades Bogosian. I feel someone would pay through the roof for this kid, who while talented big time, is an enigma. If they could land another Byfuglien/Ladd package, wow, that would set them up well.

  10. frankinboltonleafs says:

    Here's a sincere congratulations to BB and the Bruins! I wanted to post on that wacky Canuck post but posting was dissallowed???? I admit as a grown man I shed a tear when Kaberle hoisted the cup as the number 5 guy, ( I think). Sometimes justice does rule. If the Canucks get back next season and they dump Lapierre and Burrows…teach Kesler/Sedin's a little more about manhood….honour stuff…I'll be on Lou's side, (unless the Leafs fluke in). Couldn't be happier for Thomas…that's legend stuff.

  11. Boston_Bruins says:

    I don't know what to say. This is just so surreal. Years after years this team gives you hope only to crush it, usually in dramatic fashion, but then this happens, where they win in such a dramatic fashion. Speechless. So *****ing proud of this team.

  12. Boston_Bruins says:

    Thanks, I still don't know if it's really sunk in yet.

    Thomas really does need to be singled out here though, you're right. He had a historic season, but somehow even improved on that. And I don't know the numbers offhand but that had to be the best Stanley Cup Finals performance by a goalie ever. I mean it just HAD to be. And to think I was having an argument with someone before this season that Thomas was more than an "average goalie".

    And to see Bergeron coming up so big in game 7, putting his name up there with Orr for scoring a Cup winning goal for Boston. Marchand was flying. Chara and Seids were awesome again. I was grinning like an idiot through that whole Cup celebration and still am. Just so so happy for this team.

  13. frankinboltonleafs says:

    I don’t have any stats to back this up. Most of my posts spawn from emotion, (I have a lot of respect for the guys on here with a wealth of knowledge on prospects, stats, etc, and enjoy reading what they have to say). Qualification over…..Thomas has to be the second coming of Johnny Bower! I idolized Bower as a kid. I have no qualms in comparing Thomas to Bower. Hopefully kids will see Thomas as I did, (and still do), Bower.

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