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		<title>By: rojoke</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/jagr-to-pheonix/comment-page-1/#comment-70210</link>
		<dc:creator>rojoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depends on who you ask.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends on who you ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynchmob450</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/jagr-to-pheonix/comment-page-1/#comment-70209</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynchmob450</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you&#039;re an IDIOT!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you&#8217;re an IDIOT!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuv_Dogg</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/jagr-to-pheonix/comment-page-1/#comment-70208</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuv_Dogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind the idea.  I mean, I&#039;m not rushing out to get my Jagr &#039;Yotes jersey just yet, but I do like the premise of an original thought instead of recycling old Hoglund for Kariya rumors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some thoughts that I had on the article and the comments thus far.  Washington would have to eat $20 million on the contract, which is something they may have been willing to do in a Ranger trade, but not necessarily with Phoenix.  Second, when you added up the salaries for Gratton, Savage and Boucher, how long are the lengths of those contracts?  If they all expire at the end of this year or one or two run into next year, then you&#039;re still assuming $25 over the next couple of years for Jagr when you could have paid a bit more for the above three, but only for one year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Is Boucher that much better than whoever the backup is in Washington?  Does it matter?  For example, is the team going anywhere if they get rid of Jagr so much so that a better backup will help?  Probably not.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In Phoenix, if you get rid of Gratton and Savage, who is gonna step up?  Not being familiar with Phoenix, is Bierk ready to be a full time backup to Burke?  What if Burke gets hurt/traded before the end of the season?  Does Phoenix&#039; playoff aspirations go out the window?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, again, I like your creative thoughts.  Maybe there are a couple of questions to be answered before you can say it would be a good trade or not, but ehh, that&#039;s what the rest of my workday is for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Peace!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind the idea.  I mean, I&#8217;m not rushing out to get my Jagr &#8216;Yotes jersey just yet, but I do like the premise of an original thought instead of recycling old Hoglund for Kariya rumors.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some thoughts that I had on the article and the comments thus far.  Washington would have to eat $20 million on the contract, which is something they may have been willing to do in a Ranger trade, but not necessarily with Phoenix.  Second, when you added up the salaries for Gratton, Savage and Boucher, how long are the lengths of those contracts?  If they all expire at the end of this year or one or two run into next year, then you&#8217;re still assuming $25 over the next couple of years for Jagr when you could have paid a bit more for the above three, but only for one year.</p>
<p>Is Boucher that much better than whoever the backup is in Washington?  Does it matter?  For example, is the team going anywhere if they get rid of Jagr so much so that a better backup will help?  Probably not.  </p>
<p>In Phoenix, if you get rid of Gratton and Savage, who is gonna step up?  Not being familiar with Phoenix, is Bierk ready to be a full time backup to Burke?  What if Burke gets hurt/traded before the end of the season?  Does Phoenix&#8217; playoff aspirations go out the window?</p>
<p>Anyways, again, I like your creative thoughts.  Maybe there are a couple of questions to be answered before you can say it would be a good trade or not, but ehh, that&#8217;s what the rest of my workday is for.</p>
<p>Peace!</p>
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		<title>By: MantaRay</title>
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		<dc:creator>MantaRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phoenix is a small market team, acquistion of Jagr increases their payroll to the point where they won&#039;t survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not an option]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phoenix is a small market team, acquistion of Jagr increases their payroll to the point where they won&#8217;t survive.</p>
<p>Not an option</p>
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		<title>By: Lint07</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/jagr-to-pheonix/comment-page-1/#comment-70206</link>
		<dc:creator>Lint07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 07:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, the article was probably pending in the bank here waiting for an admin to post it.. that&#039;s all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the article was probably pending in the bank here waiting for an admin to post it.. that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: MAniac29</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAniac29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 00:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was wise to point out the &quot;seller&#039;s market&quot; aspect, but the deal still does not make sense.  How is it clear that Boucher is an upgrade?  He has not played at all this season, and he has had more than one oppurtunity to establish himself as a league starter, and he&#039;s failed.  Along with Charpentier and Stana, the Caps have Maxim Ouelette who at the time he was traded to the Caps by the Flyers was one of the highest rated goaltending prospects in the world....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I realize that any team that is going to bite on a Jagr deal will be dumping some salary if they will take his on, but I don&#039;t think the Caps will be looking to take on more salary.  If the deal of Jagr is a salary dump (yes they will not be paying him full, but still $20 Million) and it is anything CLOSE to the Pens salary dumps, they will be looking to shed more salary than this.  Also, I think in a seller&#039;s market, you look for guys that you can see organizations have maybe given up on, or don&#039;t have room for, but that still has potential....(ie Fata)...None of the mentioned players have any potential, save a little bit in Boucher.....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was wise to point out the &#8220;seller&#8217;s market&#8221; aspect, but the deal still does not make sense.  How is it clear that Boucher is an upgrade?  He has not played at all this season, and he has had more than one oppurtunity to establish himself as a league starter, and he&#8217;s failed.  Along with Charpentier and Stana, the Caps have Maxim Ouelette who at the time he was traded to the Caps by the Flyers was one of the highest rated goaltending prospects in the world&#8230;.</p>
<p>I realize that any team that is going to bite on a Jagr deal will be dumping some salary if they will take his on, but I don&#8217;t think the Caps will be looking to take on more salary.  If the deal of Jagr is a salary dump (yes they will not be paying him full, but still $20 Million) and it is anything CLOSE to the Pens salary dumps, they will be looking to shed more salary than this.  Also, I think in a seller&#8217;s market, you look for guys that you can see organizations have maybe given up on, or don&#8217;t have room for, but that still has potential&#8230;.(ie Fata)&#8230;None of the mentioned players have any potential, save a little bit in Boucher&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: HOGLUND</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/jagr-to-pheonix/comment-page-1/#comment-70204</link>
		<dc:creator>HOGLUND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank You]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You</p>
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		<title>By: rojoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>rojoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing that everyone else has basically shot this idea down, I will probably be the first to say that I can see the logic behind this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, if this trade was to happen, it would be a case of addition by subtraction.  When you&#039;re dumping salary, and everyone knows that you&#039;re dumping salary, then it&#039;s a seller&#039;s market.  You aren&#039;t really in a position to win on the deal.  You only hope that you don&#039;t lose too badly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Having said that, the key to the deal you propose is probably Boucher.  Right now, the Caps have Sebastien Charpentier and Rostislav Stana as back-ups.  I think Boucher is an upgrade over each of those guys.  Then throw in the possibilty of dealing Olaf Kolzig at the deadline.  That would be a deal that you could probably get some younger prospects for your rebuilding phase.  Boucher finishes out the season, then goes into camp to fight for the number one spot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have never liked Gratton.  He&#039;s supposed to be this great power forward, but he&#039;s never really established himself with the rest of the bunch.  If you ask anybody to name the top ten power forwards in the league right now, I don&#039;t think very many would list him.  Savage hasn&#039;t been the type of player he was billed to be either.  The best you can hope for in getting these guys is that they don&#039;t get hurt, they play solidly, and they have career years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing that everyone else has basically shot this idea down, I will probably be the first to say that I can see the logic behind this.</p>
<p>First of all, if this trade was to happen, it would be a case of addition by subtraction.  When you&#8217;re dumping salary, and everyone knows that you&#8217;re dumping salary, then it&#8217;s a seller&#8217;s market.  You aren&#8217;t really in a position to win on the deal.  You only hope that you don&#8217;t lose too badly.</p>
<p>Having said that, the key to the deal you propose is probably Boucher.  Right now, the Caps have Sebastien Charpentier and Rostislav Stana as back-ups.  I think Boucher is an upgrade over each of those guys.  Then throw in the possibilty of dealing Olaf Kolzig at the deadline.  That would be a deal that you could probably get some younger prospects for your rebuilding phase.  Boucher finishes out the season, then goes into camp to fight for the number one spot.</p>
<p>I have never liked Gratton.  He&#8217;s supposed to be this great power forward, but he&#8217;s never really established himself with the rest of the bunch.  If you ask anybody to name the top ten power forwards in the league right now, I don&#8217;t think very many would list him.  Savage hasn&#8217;t been the type of player he was billed to be either.  The best you can hope for in getting these guys is that they don&#8217;t get hurt, they play solidly, and they have career years.</p>
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		<title>By: Enigma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enigma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While we are on the topic of pipe dreams, appearantly there is a little rumour that has the leafs inquiring about the services of Michael Peca.......anyone else heard about this ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are on the topic of pipe dreams, appearantly there is a little rumour that has the leafs inquiring about the services of Michael Peca&#8230;&#8230;.anyone else heard about this ?</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparentley Straka has just been dealt to LA. How does WOW have something before us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparentley Straka has just been dealt to LA. How does WOW have something before us.</p>
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