Joe Colborne lighting up the AHL and becoming a smarter player along the way

As Joe Colborne has been piling up the points with the Toronto Marlies, the 6-foot-5 centre has added a new wrinkle.


Awareness.

“This year when he makes a mistake in the defensive zone or has a hiccup, I can see when he comes back to the bench, he already knows it,” Marlies coach Dallas Eakins said on Tuesday. “Last year he would come back to the bench and he would not even know he had made a mistake. He is taking ownership.”

It’s all part of the development of the 21-year-old Colborne, who is tied for second in American Hockey League scoring with linemate Joey Crabb. Both have 12 points in six games.

Colborne, if he could wave a magic wand, would join the Maple Leafs for their game in New York against the Rangers on Thursday night. But he realizes that continuing his growth in the AHL is required before he takes up permanent residence on the Leafs roster.

http://www.torontosun.com/2011/10/25/joe-colborne-lighting-up-the-ahl-and-becoming-a-smarter-player-along-the-way


40 Responses to Joe Colborne lighting up the AHL and becoming a smarter player along the way

  1. mojo19 says:

    Also this shows how deep our team is. In any of the last few seasons if we had a player performing at this level with the Marlies he would be in the first cab from the Ricoh to the ACC.

  2. 93killer93 says:

    Calgary are apparently making a huge offer for Kyle Turris. 

  3. mojo19 says:

    according to?

  4. dumbassdoorman says:

    I must say i am very curious to see if this supposedly huge offer leads anywhere. I respect Phx for standing their ground, but you would have to think they have to put team needs first.

  5. mojo19 says:

    Oh, just saw that in the Sun…. Well, I think the Flames should make an offer for Turris. Why not?

  6. dumbassdoorman says:

    Ya a combo of team depth and smarter management…lol.

  7. 93killer93 says:

    Hockeybreak reported it. 

  8. LeafsLegacy says:

    Boston: Tomas Kaberle, Tyler Seguin, Dougie Hamilton, Jared Knight
    Toronto: Phil Kessel, Stuart Percy, Joe Colborne

    Kaberle is gone now, so it seems that the trade equaled out.

  9. LeafsLegacy says:

    excuse me tradeS, as in plural.

  10. LeafsFTW17 says:

    Don't forget Liles

    Boston: Seguin, Kaberle, Hamilton, Knight
    Toronti: Kessel, Liles, Colborne, Percy.

    Kessel = Seguin
    Liles = Kaberle
    Colborne + Percy =Hamilton + Knight.

    Seems fair now.  Kessel is a better player than Seguin imo but you never know.

  11. dumbassdoorman says:

    To be fair Kessel is a more productive player now. Seguin deserves time to develop more to actually compare them. However the fact he has a cup ring on his finger, gives him bragging rights!! lol

  12. Boston_Bruins says:

    Different trades and it's still too early to evaluate value lol.

  13. TheLeafNation91 says:

    He's garbage.

    From, blaze.

  14. Steven_Leafs says:

    actually we got the 30th overall pick which we flipped for the 22nd overall to draft Biggs, so:

    To Toronto: Kessel, Colborne, 2012 2nd (Liles), 2011 1st (30th overall pick, traded with 39th overall for 22nd overall (Biggs)

    To Boston: Seguin, Hamilton, Knight, Kaberle

    From a Leafs perspective:

    To Toronto: Kessel, Liles, Colborne, Biggs

    From Toronto: Seguin, Hamilton, Kaberle, Knight, 2011 39th overall pick (which ended up being John Gibson)

    And if you want to compare them:

    Kessel > Seguin
    Liles > Kaberle
    Biggs ~ Gibson + Knight
    Colborne < Hamilton

    I think overall we win the trade. Kessel is and should always be the best player in the deals, Liles is more than a better replacement for Kaberle, Biggs is unknown but so are Knight and Gibson (we likely would not have picked Gibson anyway). The only loss in the trade off is Hamilton is and should always be better than Colborne. But you never know.

  15. Steven_Leafs says:

    no it is not, it is easy to evaluate. Those trades (either directly or indirectly) lead to a Stanley Cup. So unless the Leafs win a cup in our "Kessel era", Boston wins the trade hands down. But by value alone, Toronto is and should end up being the winners of the deal.

  16. JoelLeafs says:

    The axe has started to fall. Habs lost an assistant coach. Seems like a percarious position to put themselves in: What do you do if the tail spin continues? Martin is so *****ed.

  17. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Still early to determine as BB said

  18. Steven_Leafs says:

    That doesn't make any sense. If the point of making trades, signing free agents, drafting players, etc, etc, etc, is to win the Stanley Cup. Then Boston wins. I still believe that Toronto did very well with those trades, but Boston brought home the trophy, so they win.

  19. LeafsFTW17 says:

    So Matt Duchene is struggling early in this season and has been demoted to the second line. It is also Duchenes last year on his entry level contract which means he will be wanting a big contract probably similar to the one John Tavares got from the Islanders.  With Stastny already under a big contract Colorado would probably consider looking at offers. Hypothetically speaking if he is available Toronto would need to act fast and give a huge offer.

    To TOR:  Matt Duchene

    To COL:  Cody Franson, Tyler Bozak, 1st (2013), Jerry D'amigo.

    Duchene would be perfect for the leafs and Franson would be great for the avs.  Bozak goes to Denver in the summer and knows alot of the players on Colorado and would be a great 3rd line center for them who could move up to 2nd if needed. 

    I'd be happy to through in some more prospects or draft picks to get him or if Colorado would like Connolly or Lombardi to fill in for Duchene, they can have them.

    killer, can you make a trade proposal? Curious to see what it would look like and I know you love making trades :)

  20. blaze says:

    You're stunned.

  21. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    I have no confidence in this happening. 

    Ever.
    We can talk about this shit but in the end I believe Burke plans on going home grown with Kadri/Colbourne unless we end up with another possible 1st line center prospect. 
  22. blaze says:

    Nope won't happen. The Avs have loads of cap space and despite thier internal cap they would under no cir*****stances save maybe a holdout trade their young stars from their core.

    It's easy enough for them to fill mid level roles with bargain basements contracts. If by any crazy chance they just have to move a big contract (they won't) they'll move Stastny for a good price.

    If takes almost a perfect set of conditions for a teams marquee young blue chip talent to be moved outside of a truly outrageous offer. A team like the Blue Jackets are much more likely to move their young blue chipper (Johansen) because of the absolutely need to win now and the prescence of top notch talent already.

  23. JoelLeafs says:

    He was demoted to the 2nd, then again; he`s been playing on the 3rd line.. it`s gotten bad for him.

    It is an interesting idea, though he has to be tough to get, slump or not he`s still a franchise player. 
    How about including Schenn? He's had a slow start as well. Not that I think we should trade him, but I'd rather have Duchenn over Schene.
    I got this one Killer:
    To TOR: Duchene, Kessel
    To COL: Franson, Bozak, D'Amigo, 1st (Toronto), 3rd (PHI)
    To PHI: 2nd (Toronto), 4th (COL)
    Heh, wadda ya think?
  24. 93killer93 says:

    You cut me real deep. 

  25. LeafFansAreGay says:

    Colborne is terrible. He's getting points because it's the AHL (Ain't good enough Hockey League).

    Just wait till he gets to the NHL. he'll suck. He's getting attention because it's the laffs.

  26. Steven_Leafs says:

    haha I wish, no chance Duchene is leaving Colorado (he's good, he's RFA so no chance of him leaving for nothing) and no way they trade him for Franson & Bozak. Also remember that Colorado gave up their 1st and 2nd to improve their team, they wont take picks back, especially when those picks are probably the biggest piece of the deal.

    Also, so Philadelphia is trading little Kessel + 3rd for 2nd + 4th? big win there. lol.

  27. LeafsFTW17 says:

    I'm pretty sure the kessel thing was a joke.

  28. Boston_Bruins says:

    What if the Leafs win 2 Cups? Still too early to fully evaluate.

  29. Boston_Bruins says:

    I think saying Kessel will be the best player in that deal is a bit of a stretch. Right now, sure, but with how much Seguin has upped his game going into his second year, and his skill set overall, I'd bet on him turning out better in the long run. And Hamilton is looking absolutely incredible right now. Who knows what kind of impact he'll have.

    And the Kaberle trade is just a tough one to evaluate in terms of "who won". It was sort of a win-win. Toronto obviously got the better long-term rewards almost regardless of how well Colborne, Biggs and Liles play, but Boston won the Cup. I'll be the first to say that I don't think he factored in much at all, but analyzing hypotheticals of whether the Bruins would win the Cup or not without Kaberle is just that, a hypothetical.

  30. Steven_Leafs says:

    haha touche. Lets hope for the best. lol.

  31. LeafFansAreGay says:

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! That's a good one.

  32. albertateams says:

    I wouldn't mind Turris but not at a high price. Sure he was drafted 3rd overall and has some potential but his career high is 25 points (I don't see him as a first line center). I don't see him as an upgrade over Backlund at all. I'd trade Bourque for Turris + but not straight across.

  33. reinjosh says:

    I still don't think Seguin will be better. I just think its foolish to think that Kessel's ceiling is lower than Seguin's. I'd even say that his ceiling is higher. Seguin's great but at the end of the day I don't think Boston will give him the type of situation he needs to hit his top end upside. That's more a hunch than anything but I'm sticking with it. I honestly think Kessel has a massive ceiling and we've yet to see anything close to what he's capable of. 

    Regardless I don't think the trade will be a loss for either side. It's still to early to judge a winner. The Leafs have the best current player by a long shot. Sure Seguin has shown some potential but at the moment it accounts for all of 10 games where he's shown that potential. For all we know it could be a hot streak he never repeats in his career. I don't think thats the case but he's got a long ways to go before he's becoming the top line player people envision him as. 
    Hamilton is also lighting it up yes. He's also doing it at the OHL level. We've seen bigger players dominate in a junior league before and then struggle in the pro level. Chances are he will be a top line defender, but I caution people overrating a season in junior and claiming that he will topple the Leafs in the deal and make it an outright win. 
    Regardless, the deal is a win for both sides. Toronto will likely end up getting the shorter win and Boston will likely get the bigger win but at the end of the day the Leafs will get a win none the less. Kessel is a damn good player and its starting to get a little ridiculous how overlooked he gets. 
  34. reinjosh says:

    I still disagree with that logic. Just because the Bruins won a cup doesn't mean they won the deals. I still think they lost the Kaberle deal outright. Yes they won the cup, which at the end of the day makes the loss negligible, but they lost. They gave up significant assets for a player that really didn't help them win that cup, almost at all.

    And even Seguin didn't do anything to help them win that cup so using it as an argument for a win is a logic jump in my opinion. Outside of two games, Seguin was completely invisible.
  35. mojo19 says:

    Obviously Kessel is better right now, but he's a few years older, both theses guys will be great for their respective teams. Overall I think both teams are happy with the player they have, so this trade worked out in the long run. Let's stop beating it to death now, please.

  36. Boston_Bruins says:

    The thing about the shorter term win is that Boston already won a Cup. That doesn't matter from Toronto's POV, but it definitely matters from Boston's POV. Even if Seguin didn't help much, the fact that they didn't need Kessel to win the Cup negates any short term rewards they could have had with Kessel. Of course they could fall short this year and people may jump to the conclusion of "If they still had Kessel…" but that's just getting into hypothetical situations again.

    As for who has more potential between Seguin and Kessel, I definitely think it's Seguin but I can understand where you're coming from by saying Kessel. To me though, I see alot of similarities between Kessel and Seguin in terms of shot and speed (which are Kessel's main strong points). They're both lightning fast and have an elite release. Kessel of course has shown his way more, but Seguin has something special if he can hone his shot even further. And I think Seguin has more potential as a playmaker. He's shown flashes of some incredible vision already, and it's another case of being able to do it on a more consistent basis. And the main thing is work ethic. I can't say I know the drive either of these two have, but the general perception of them seems to be polar opposites. I guess you could argue that Kessel not going all out gives him more potential that he could live up to if he eventually does go all out (as he seems to be doing so far this year).

    As for Hamilton, yes, it's just Junior, but it's very promising when you're on pace to eclipse your production that saw you get drafted top 10 just 30 games into the season, despite being on a worse team than last year.

  37. JoelLeafs says:

    I'm sorry bro, I have nothing but love for 93killer93.

    **hugz** (no homo)
  38. TheOnlyIslesFan says:

    little slow jumping on the NonLeafsFansAreGay account to start fights with yourself or what?

  39. TheOnlyIslesFan says:

    Just a question for Leafs fans.

    At the what now seems like quite a while ago 2009 NHL entry draft the Leafs and Bruins thought that they had a deal in place that was going to send Kaberle to the Bruins for Kessel – the hinge in the deal was the Leafs first pick in that draft (Kadri) instead of dealing that pick Burke swapped the next two first rounders and the second..which of course we all know turned into Seguin, Knight and now Hamilton.
    The question is – do any of you ever think of what MIGHT have been had Burke pulled the trigger on this trade?  The Leafs would have the center to play with Kessel in Seguin, they would have had Dougie Hamilton in the system, Jared Knight is a second round pick who I know absolute SQUAT about – I guess you wouldn't have Colborne and Biggs but I think that I'd be happy with Seguin setting up kessel and knowing Hamitlon and Schenn are gonna be the backbone of my D for the next 10-15 seasons.
    It doesn't really matter as I think in this trade the Leafs got the best player at the time, and something that the Leafs REALLY needed and it's unfortunate but when you're out to sea without a paddle you gotta pay whatever price it takes to get closer to if not back on dry land.
    I know he says it all the time but had Burke known he was going to deal away a Seguin and Hamilton for Kessel and he had the chance to do Kaberle and Kadri for Kessel would he still do the deal or would he have settled on the 2009 NHL entry draft trade?
  40. dumbassdoorman says:

    This reallyis a late answer to your question and doubt you will get it, but here goes anyway. Truthfully no, I mean if the trade had been made it is impossible to say where they would have drafted otherwise. another move would have been made to replace kabs most likely. It also could have lead to other trades sooner, which mean we may or may not have still gotten phaneuf. The trade was made and i thought the cost was high, but knew that pure goal scorers don't come along very often.

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