Comments on: Leafs Can Right Previous Wrongs

By: Nobleman

Nobleman — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:12:20 +0000

first things first kaberle will be traded no matter what anyone says whether it be at the deadline or draft day it will be done ...
my thoughts are he could go for a 1st, 2nd and top prospect especially to a team who needs the make the playoffs and overpays.

Secondly, i like the antropov deal however i believe that toronto will be able to get more out of the rangers if they keep on struggling. maybe del zotto and a 2nd perhaps. i dont want to overate antropov however he has skills and assets which make him valuable

poni will be gone at the deadline with stajan and white. Especially white who can attract maaybe even a 1st rounder ( a little bit of a stretch but torontos done worse so its possible)

i like your signings but the first ones will all stay with same teams exept for antropov who will be dealt.

By: 93killer93

93killer93 — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:49:14 +0000

the leafs lack of draft picks has really screwed them up as they cuurently have only luke schenn, maybe pogge/tlusty. The leafs need to keep coming in last and get good players thats how all the other teams did it. it really is not that hard to understand, coming in last is good when your team is horrible. The best example is the penguins. they made the stanley cup finals last year by being the worst team for years and years. Look at their drafts.

2002- ryan Witney       5th overall not a big pickup but still 5th overall
2003- MA Fleury          1st overall
2004- Evgeni Malkin    2nd overall
2005- Sidney Crosby   1st overall
2006- Jordan Staal      2nd overall

the leafs draft picks lately

2006- Jiri Tlusty 13th overall
2008- Luke Schenn 5th overall

By: 93killer93

93killer93 — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:23:11 +0000

The leafs have really no good prospects, besides schenn and maybe tlusty or kulemin, because JFJ traded all their draft picks and prospects for players that he thought would help the leafs make the playoffs. Rask for Raycroft? We could have had 2 decent prospect goalies, instead he gets raycroft who the leafs have to buy out to get rid of. The only way the leafs will win the stanley cup any time soon is if they completely rebuild their team. this draft is the perfect time to do it. If they can trade all these players and manage to end up with either the 1st or 2nd overall pick, they get a franchise player like Hedman or Tavares. Also their are good forwards like brayden schenn, evander kane, matt duchene. Outside the top ten if they can get more draft picks is a guy like ryan ellis on defence who in a couple years time could be a major part of leafs powerplay. If they can get a couple more 1st rounders they can always do what they did last year and trade them to draft higher up.

On another note if the leafs wanted to trade stempniak for lupul they would likely have to give away more players. Philly said they would trade lupul for a veteran d-man. They want to add to their defence because they are looking to compete in the playoffs. Since the Leafs have Kubina and kaberle they should add one of those to the deal and try to get an 1st rounder depending on which guy they decide to trade, another draft pick, and a prospect d-man like Luca Sbisa.

By: barahir

barahir — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:47:48 +0000

…it's like Ontario's 2 teams are 69ing and trying to be the first to blow load into the other's mouth.

By: barahir

barahir — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:45:31 +0000

Endless speculation and navel gazing by frustrated thirty somethings who never saw a Cup.

By: barahir

barahir — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:39:16 +0000

That nail you hit is slammed through the board. Only thing, I'm not sure Antropov would get both those picks and Sopel, maybe the 2nd, but probably no 1st in any case.

By: I-BE-LEAF

I-BE-LEAF — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:14:52 +0000

Can't remember which paper I read it in but it's reliable. Trust me. Everything is going to be fine, Leaf fans. Burke is in the process of cloning Brad May. My sources tell me there will be 6 Mays by season's end. That should make for very impressive 3rd and 4th lines.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:22:45 +0000

oh ok. haha, sorry! I forgot to mention: Great article!

And ya Cam, you're right his contract extension does kick in next year so it would save them $ next year but not this.

I do like Lupul though, maybe we'd get him for something different. Stempniak's gotta start scoring to be worth a little more.

By: blaze

blaze — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:30:20 +0000

Considering he does eventually have a break out season I wouldnn't find it that improbable he could peak out in his career with a 40 goal season with the right playmaker.

By: UWSensFan

UWSensFan — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:15:12 +0000

Oh, I agree JFJ buggered up big time when the lockout was eminent. I'm not disputing this (actually, one of the reasons I said he was the 2nd worst GM I could think of).

I also think we can both agree that the decisions of Leafs management in the last amount of time (well, at least as far as I can remember) to dismiss the draft was not smart.

As a Sens fan, it has been pretty miserable to not be able to face the Leafs in the playoffs since the lockout ended for two reasons:
- Finally dispel the "The Leafs have the Sens number in the playoffs" stigma (mostly because the teams that beat the Sens will never exist again in TO)
- It sucks to boo a team that is only really good against your team...I miss the rivalries we used to have where you really didn't know who was going to win games (well, this season is different because we're both sucking hard)

To answer your question, unfortunately, not all that much (besides Kaberle and Schenn). I'm just surprised there are people wanting to trade Kaberle. He'd be a great person to train your up and coming D-men.