Leafs have firm offers

Quiet morning in Toronto. Leafs have firm offers on a number of players. Ton of interest in 2nd line, but nothing imminent

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247 Responses to Leafs have firm offers

  1. reinjosh says:

    I'm starting to think this draft is getting overrated and is going to be a severe disappointment past Yakupov, Grigs, Galchenyuk, Forsberg, Murray, Dumba. People have ideas of 2003 where a bunch of superstars come from the draft and I'm not sure that its accurate. 

  2. glotz_99 says:

    How about this trade: Ron Wilson for Randy Carlyle.

    I didnt know this but in Carlyle's first year with the Ducks he led a rebuilding team into the playoffs, his second year he made it to the conference finals and his 3rd year he won the Stanley Cup with the Ducks.
    Plus he played a couple seasons on the Leafs in the late 70's

  3. reinjosh says:

    I'd prefer new blood to be honest. Get Eakins in here. He's done wonders with the guys like Crabb and Boyce (proving he can work with the bottom 6 guys) and has gotten a ton out of guys like BLacker, Colborne, Frattin, Kadri showing he can work with both the elite skill guys and bottom 6 guys. It would be good for the future. He already knows half of the guys on the team and would be a much smoother transition than bringing in Carlyle. 

  4. TheLeafNation91 says:

    It's bull josh.

    You don't think it affected San Jose? Washington? Chicago? Los Angeles? New York Rangers and Nash? etc.

    All these teams were subject to rumours, in a hockey market or not, all players get nervous all this time of the year since they don't know what's going to happen.

    As well, they deffinetly looked better last night.

  5. mojo19 says:

    No doubt Eakins has done a good job, i wouldn't mind if he got the promotion. My top choice would be for Randy Carlyle as well, but either way.

  6. reinjosh says:

    I'm following you now too

  7. reinjosh says:

    haha talking to you on twitter and on HTR. I prefer new blood over old I think but I wouldn't be against Carlyle. Just prefer Eakins over him 

  8. dumbassdoorman says:

    I will tie this debate up and say EAKINS, ya baby

  9. reinjosh says:

    Woo! Eakins fan boys!

  10. mojo19 says:

    I kept Crabb in because I wanted to create a pure energy line. Lombo, Brown, and Crabb would create a speedy, high tempo forechecking line, but I considered Steckel because he's generally better than Crabb, although Stex has been struggling since November when he came back from his injury.

  11. mojo19 says:

    I'm a big Eakins fan, too. But I say, let him finish what he's started in the AHL this year and get a veteran interim coach to try to salvage the season. Carlyle and Burke go back, feels like a good fit.

  12. hockey_lover says:

    Im gonna throw a wrench into your party and say MARC CRAWFORD!!

    Why? No idea. Just want to be a pain in the arse lol

  13. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I never said it IS the reason for the slide but that it maybe didn't help. The biggest reasons to me, are poor line-up decisions and poor coaching, which I have been saying for 3 years now. It IS reasonable to think that the players here, escpecially due to how young they are, are more effected than in cities that do not have as much media pressure. It shouldn't be an excuse, but it may be a factor. Ultimately, bottom line, the players need to learn how to deal with it. I am not excusing the players if that was a factor, just saying if it was, hopefully we still have a chance to get back to form.

    That said, after last night…we just suck right now! plain and simple.

  14. mojo19 says:

    Well he did get his start with the Leafs (AHL St.John's), would be cool to see him back with the organization again. I think Crawford is a smart guy, I've really enjoyed him on TSN. He kind of has the reputation of being a hard ass coach to play for though. But whatever, a change for the sake of change is all I'm looking for anyways.

  15. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Although I like Mojo's idea…I doubt Carlisle would come in as an interim coach. Either guy, but I am leaning Eakins due to his apparent ability to teach young players. Surround him with some quality veteran assiatants though.

  16. mojo19 says:

    Ya I love how he blasted Quinn and JFJ's guys for having "a sense of entitlement". Monster and Reimer have been given more free passes this season than Matt Stajan and Nik Antropov had in any given season.

  17. mojo19 says:

    A lot of NHL ready talent on the Leafs and Marlies have been coached by Eakins with lots of success: Colborne, Crabb, Frattin, Kadri, (Gardiner?), Bozak for a little while, so I could see Eakins making a difference and being a potential long term solution.

    Interesting thought.
  18. dumbassdoorman says:

    Any respectable coach is not going to come in for the rest of the year…lol….Eakins next year, let ronnie finish fawkin up this season then kick ghis teeth down his pissant little throat

  19. mojo19 says:

    If we miss the playoffs, I just can't see Wilson behind the bench next year.

  20. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    Special player who can play in Toronto, Mats Sundin. Guy didn't give two shits what the media thought and just played his heart out. Wish there was a guy like that we could get…

  21. mojo19 says:

    I posted this in the other article too, but I'll put it here. This is a list of 35 potential UFA's from the summer, do you guys think any of these guys would look good in a Leafs uniform/fit in here?

  22. dumbassdoorman says:

    Just to drive me to drink and turn me into a full fledged alkie I can see Burke doing it…lol

  23. MystifoLeafs says:

    Word on twitter verse is that if Toronto loses tonight the following will be trending world wide…

    #FIREWILSON
    #WeWantEakins
    I for one know I will be apart of said mob.
  24. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    If we traded MacArthur I would have said Doan, I'd like Nabakov and uhh, Jarett Stoll, I like him as a solid third line if we get rid of Lombardi, though don't see it happening… 

    Steve Sullivan/Ray Whitney might be nice for some vet support. 
  25. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    Maybe Thornton… our team is a bit soft after all 

  26. mojo19 says:

    I'm with you. I like the idea of bringing in a veteran like a Sully or a Whitney on a 1 year deal. 

    If we could move out Lombardi somehow then ya, Jarret Stoll is a usually really reliable 3rd line centre.
  27. MystifoLeafs says:

    My list…

    1. Parise (Obvious choice is obvious.)
    2. Doan ( If MacA is shipped would be great addition.)
    3. Whitney (He is like Temmu in the sense he shows no slowing down.
    4. Nabokov ( Stability in net is a MUST.)
    5. Langenbrunner (Great leader, be a calming voice and a nice third or second line guy.)
    6. Moen (Grinder, be nice to have.)
    7. Thornton (Truculence, If he is available Burke will sign him.)
  28. reinjosh says:

    Yeah but I think I agree with DA. Let Ronnie finish the season, gives Burke an out for the season and makes sure that he doesn't throw a new coach into a losing season. Plus it allows Eakins to coach the Marlies on a run towards the Calder Cup and give him some big credibility. 

    As much as I want to see Eakins here now, my brain is telling me waiting is going to be better long term. 
  29. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Here's something about Burke's moves in Toronto that I thought of, which I found interesting so I thought I would share. It may mean nothing but it is a little ironic. I'm sure some have realized as well because when it's written out it loks obvious.

    When Burrke first took over ( for the first 2 years give or take)he moved out players like:
    Tlusty
    Blake
    Hagman
    Stajan
    Poni
    Stempniak
    Toskala in net

    All these players would be considered skilled(I use that loosely LOL) over gritty.

    He brings in:
    Brad May
    Garnet Exelby
    Phaneuf
    Aulie
    Mike Brown
    Komisarek
    Beauchimen
    Primeau
    Armstrong
    Orr
    Kessel
    Bozak
    Giguere in net
    Keeps Rosehill

    Except Kessel and Bozak, All guys with grit over high talent

    And drafts Schenn and Kadri…both with grit

    The team becomes tougher to play against and improves even under the poor coaching skills of Wilson. Couldn't resist.lol

    Last 1-2 years
    Lombardi
    Connolly
    Franson
    Gardiner
    Lupul
    MacArthur
    Steckel
    Ashton
    Colbourne

    All considered talented over gritty

    He moves out:
    Orr
    Rosehill
    Beauchimen
    Primeau
    Aulie

    Armstrong, Komisarek are hardly ever in the line-up.

    Out of all the grit he adds or keeps…NOW, only Phaneuf, Brown and Schenn play regularily.

    The team started this year using a combination of both and was hard to play against and becoming more successful.
     
    (I know I have missed some guys, but the idea is still there.)

    Did Burke just bring in bigger, grittier guys to attract talented players so that they would feel safe to play here? Does he even believe that size and sandpaper is needed?

    Lombardi and Connolly have been brutal, yet are still in the line-up everyday.

    Generally the coach decides the line-up…but if your GM REALLY wants toughness and the coach refuses to use it….how do you get a contract extension?LOL

    I have been a big Burke supporter…I'm starting to wonder if he hasn't lost his way.
    FIRE Wilson for starters, bring back our grit and I may start supporting again.

  30. MystifoLeafs says:

    Well say we let it play out and have Dallas play it out with Marlies and win a Calder cup. That would be HUGE for the guys confidence and for the leafs farm. So with that I have to agree we should let them play it out.

  31. MystifoLeafs says:

    But I am still joing the mob. Because you know mobs are always fun.

  32. toronto77 says:

    We kinda have a player like that in Kessel who does not give a shit about the media, just plays hockey.

  33. toronto77 says:

    Carlyle has the same personality as wilson and we may run into the same problems with him. Remember, Carlyle got run out of anaheim for the same reason wilson might get run out of toronto. Carlyle maybe the worst idea.

  34. toronto77 says:

    only interested in praise and thornton.

  35. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Those guys want to win the cup…Let alone a winning season.

    Good luck.

  36. Boston_Bruins says:

    You are an amazing poster, toronto77. Happy?

  37. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I'm going to beat a dead horse for a quick second.lol

    Orr played his last game Dec 19th and Rosehill has only played one since.
    As of Dec 19th the Leafs were on pace for a 90pt season. The pace since Dec 19th would be 76pt season.

    NEXT.lol

    On another note, I went to the Marlies/Bulldogs game last night. This is what I noticed.

    On the positive;
    Colborne was, by far, the best player on the ice. His skating has improved and he was dangerous everytime he was out there. Still needs to work on strength though as he is too easy to knock off the puck during cycles. Beyond that, he looks NHL ready for sure.

    Leblanc jumped Kadri after some back and forth and Hamilton jumped on the guy to pull him off Kadri.

    The Marlies are big and the Bull dogs were obviously intimidated knowing Rosehill and Orr were there.

    Mueller laid a bulldog out cold while cutting across the blueline. He got a game misconduct for charging. No retaliation by the bulldogs what so ever. Rosehill was talking to the dogs bench the whole time they stretchered the guy off.

    Ashton had a goal and assist.

    The defensive game was pretty solid on the overall.

    Scrivens was solid, but not an answer to the goaltending problems

    Holzer was very solid on D.

    The Canadiens have NO help coming anytime soon.

    The not so good

    Kadri was lazy on the back check, he is A LOT smaller than I thought and obviously still thinks he is playing pond hockey. He is still trying to stick handle around guys while there are teammates wide open. He did make a nice flip pass on the game winner.

    Altough Ashton had 2 pts (goal went off his leg and in) he was …OK, but you could see some potential

    D'amigo was unimpressive, Deschamps the same, Scott is speedy but too small to help the big club.

  38. TimTheBone says:

    Well to be fair… Habs best prospects are still in Junior or have been called up already… Leblanc i was never high on…. He's expendable… use as trade bait i think…..our best guys are Palushaj, Gallagher, Beaulieu, Tinordi, Kristo…. all in junior or College…… then there's Engqvist,… Big body but i don't think he'll amount to a significant role in the NHL…. so in Hamilton theres nothing coming soon…. but Gallagher if he progresses could play next year… i don't think he should but he has the skill

  39. toronto77 says:

    ya i guess. lol, thornton is pretty sick though.

  40. mojo19 says:

    Semantics but I have a gripe with your wording, realistic_leafs_fan

    I think the best players are generally both gritty and skilled. Really gritty players who have skill are awesome.

    Next team please use a term such as"finesse" rather than "skilled". Sorry to split hairs. Having said that I completely agree with your overall point.

  41. mojo19 says:

    next *time* not "team" – my bad

  42. toronto77 says:

    I think Colborne will be our no.1 centremen, if he is, then we do not need to give up assists to trade for one which is huge. Hopefully Kadri's laziness can improve, but his skill set can be really useful if he is paired with the right players.

    Holzer I think will be the next Aulie in the sense that if he cannot make the team next season than perhaps he will be traded for another much needed talented forward. 
    I was so pumped about D'Amigo after his 1st world junior following his draft. It's kinda disappointing to see him going nowhere, he could be traded soon.
  43. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    LOL. noted. and agree with the best are both.

  44. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    It was a little sarcastic shot against the Habs to make Leafs fans smile…that's all. I hope you do have some quality juniors because there is nothing that stands out on the Dogs…Wilsie is your best player there.

  45. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I'm not sure if Colborne will be a (true)#1 centre. He was dominant but didn't put up the points to back it up. He could(maybe) be a good #2 though. Have to see if he can make the jump. As you know,it's one thing to look very good in the AHL, it's another to look that good in the NHL. He was exciting to watch. Very responsible with good hockey sense. 

  46. TimTheBone says:

    Exactly….. so what does that tell you!…

    I was just putting my two cents in thats all…. die hard hab fan here

  47. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    It tells me I was right! LOL

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