Leafs should be shopping Reimer

Nichols on hockey writes … Leafs should be on the phone now, shopping James Reimer while he’s hot

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43 Responses to Leafs should be shopping Reimer

  1. leafy says:

    Hats off to the Leafs. They get swept by Detroit in a home and home series in October, and then come back to win 3 straight to win the season series. That takes some doing.

  2. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Show of hands, do we now believe in this team or is this a perfect opportunity to sell high on Franson, Kadri, Lupul, Riemer ect…

    • LN91 says:

      Riemer, will most likely be dealt…But, Toronto can always find a solid veteran backup through UFA. That’s not really a concern.

      Kadri, although playing better, I think Toronto can use him to find a more dynamic option now and in the future.

      The Lupul/Franson situation will get interesting. It will come down to the salary cap because Toronto cannot afford to keep all the players.

      • blaze says:

        How exactly could the Leafs trade Kadri for someone more ‘dynamic’ (??) than him both now and in the future. Seems like an impossible task no?

        What exactly do you mean by dynamic anyways, buzz word of the day?

    • leafy says:

      I’d say test the trade market for Kadri, because right now he’s playing fantastic. He’s finally turning into a hockey player. If he’s ever traded, it better be something good coming back.

      Given the team’s position in the MHL standings, the Leafs have to keep all those guys mentioned. Even Reimer is needed, as we saw twice this week alone.

      But still a bit early. It’s around the tenth mile in the 26 mile marathon.

      • LN91 says:

        Unfortunately, the salary cap is most likely staying the same…So, the Leafs will probably need to make tough decisions during the summer.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        This happens ever years though, people fall in love with a solid November/December stretch and duds get extended when now is the time to cash in and sell these assets.

        Less concerned with the standings compared to starting to build an identity. Guys like Santos, Winnik ect.. can even bring return right now.

        • leafy says:

          I hear what you’re saying, but what if they’re the real deal? I’d wait until at least February before ‘dumping’ anyone, unless the return is too good to turn down.

          • leafs_wallace93 says:

            It’s fun watching right now but if we start mixing our own kool-aid again, Santo, Winnik, Panik, Franson, Kadri, Riemer getting decent raises, yikes.

            I wouldn’t mind the first guy that ask for a big raise getting dealt, make an example out of him.

            • leafy says:

              I’m telling you, replace Gardiner with a big strong defenceman who…you know, actually knows how to play defence, and with Polak coming back, the Leafs can finish second in the eastern conference behind Pittsburgh.

            • leafy says:

              The upcoming 7 game road trip will give us a good idea where this team is at.

              • TmLeafan says:

                Kadri and Franson both deserve raises, I would be hesitant to move them unless we can know a deal out of the park somehow which probably isn’t likely. Kadri is an RFA still so doesn’t have a ton of leverage, should be able to get him locked up long term at a reasonable rate(4.5-5 mil).

                Santo and Winnik are both good bottom six forwards in this league I don’t think we would get a lot in return in a trade anyway might as well try and extend them. If they ask for too much send them packing like we did with Raymond.

                Riemer will get dealt for sure I think Nonis is getting constantly low balled. Hopefully a team gets desperate for an upgrade, gives us a decent return. Think Edmonton, Minnesota, WPG most likely candidate. Even Philly Riemer is not amazing but probably still better than Steve Mason.

            • blaze says:

              Kadri is staying, at most and its a stretch one of Winnik or Santorelli stay, both likely walk.

              I think Nonis is more wise to letting bottom 6 talent walk than previous in his career.

              Franson is the real wildcard. I’m as wary as anyone signing dman to big contracts but I think Franson is a piece worth keeping moving forward.

              Booth is already a goner and Panik is a nice cheap RFA re-sign.

              Bernier and Reimer have to be done after this season, can’t see how Bernier gets less than 5.

              • LN91 says:

                I do not think Kadri is a ‘lock’ for staying…

                • TmLeafan says:

                  I don’t see why he wouldn’t be, he is an RFA. Guys like Dreger have been saying that Kadri is going to be dealt for years, if it was going to happen it would have happened already. He is a really good centre, we don’t exactly have a lot of those trading him would be dumb.

                  And who knows what the contract demands will be for Winnik and Santorelli, both seem to be happy with their roles here, could resign for a reasonable rate.

                • blaze says:

                  No one is a lock, if it’s a sensible move anyone is available.

                  However Kadri is playing the best hockey of his career and being trust lately by Carlyle in key situations and is as creative an offensive player as any and now it’s time to look for someone more ‘dynamic’?

                  • blaze says:

                    Kadri put up 16pts in his last 21 games playing the best defensive hockey of his career and even edging out the top line for even strength minutes lately and empty net situations.

                    Sorry I don’t agree with the Grabovski parallels.

                    Franson is where your warnings of cap he’ll have the most merit. I’m on the fence on this one and understand the implication of big money on D but Franson has played great at evens and shows a desire to improve his game. Term is big but if they can get him at something better than Clarkson I don’t see how he isn’t a top 4 dman for the next 4-5 years.

  3. leafy says:

    The blue and white machine keeps on rolling. haha

    If I were the Leafs, I’d ship out Gardiner for anything I can get. It would be addition by subtraction. He’s just too soft, too erratic, and too unreliable. He’s not 20 years old anymore and I don’t see improvement coming any time soon.

    If the Leafs were out of the playoffs, it would be a different story.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Never thought I’d become a Gardiner guy but I wouldn’t move until I saw if with some time with another coach.

      • leafy says:

        That’s true, but I look at the NHL standings and I see that the Leafs can do some serious damage this year. To me that changes things a bit.

        • Gambo says:

          Honestly they have a shot going to the Cup Finals. Not because they’re that good, because it’s the east and any team has an actual shot.

          • leafy says:

            Yup, it’s wide open. Many people point to last year’s collapse, but they’re overlooking 2 key points:
            One, the blueline wasn’t nearly as good last year.
            Two, there’s way more balance and depth in the forward lines. Big difference!

            Some big tests coming up. We’ll have a better idea if this team is for real by early new year.

  4. doorman says:

    this post failed once already lol, Kadri will not be going anywhere, IMO. He is finally playing hockey and not just offence. Reimer will most likely be dealt and deserves a shot somewhere. Santorelli and Winnik won’t be surprise resigns for me as they are both playing well and roles on a young team that appears to be improving. Not every player wants to move all the time and in the cap era bottom 6 guys will start to sign smarter deals to stay put. Besides being miscast and becoming an over paid lightening rod on a losing team would suck, one would think.

  5. leafs_wallace93 says:

    So all our problems are solved when the Leafs go on one of their two hot streaks during the season? Resign all of them? Give up on Gardiner and extend Kadri because Kadri has had a goodish month?

    Is Bozak a true number 1 now too?

    Come on guys.

    • leafmeister says:

      IMO priority for resigning should be:

      1) Bernier – has proven the ability to be a high level #1 in short stretches, and the goalie market is garbage anyways, so Bernier must be resigned.

      2) Kadri – He should be virtually untouchable right now, having finally developed a two way game. The Leafs must wait and see how this plays out. The potential reward is just too great. Besides, who could they get for Kadri?

      3) Franson – By far the trickiest. Which season was the norm? If the Leafs sign him long term and he goes back to playing like last year, they’d have a 12-13 mil top pairing with serious mobility issues. No matter where the Leafs are at the deadline I’d explore trading options, especially if it seems as though he’d get 5.5+ on the market.

      4) Winnik – His offensive game is so limited that he probably won’t cost above 2 mil. For what he brings to the PK, I’d go for it.

      5) Santorelli – His play will have him out of the price range. The Leafs strongest off season moves in recent years have been grabbing these castaways for cheap (MacArthur, Raymond, Santorelli) and while it may be tempting to invest in Santo, I’d take the chance that they can find another cheap guy capable of a top 6 role next summer.

      6) Panik – Should be cheap, has proven himself as an excellent 4th liner, and we all know there is potential for more. I’d play him with Kadri.

    • blaze says:

      Much more than goalies driving this seasons play. Lots to positive steps lately that goaltending has no bearing on.

      Kadri developing a two way game, his line has been outplaying Kessel’s.

      Santorelli and Winnik have played great.

      Suprisingly enough Phaneuf – Franson as the top d pair has turned out to be the most effective D pair the Leafs have had in years? ( early but so far so good )

      Even Robidas has started to look much better out of there.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        Funny that when you play Kadri with plugs suddenly he has a ‘two way’ game. Caryle using him like he did Grabo, skill guy in a plug role. Does Kadri produce offensively? Not really, you can get a cheaper guy to be Kadri right now.

        How did that Garbovski contract work out for us? Reward a guy for being ok

        Franson is still a nightmare in his own end, long term with Dion, yikes. Franson is cute so long as he’s putting up points but he’s still just a PP guy in my eyes.

        • blaze says:

          Kadri put up 16pts in his last 21 games (Nov/Dec) playing the best defensive hockey of his career and even edging out the top line for even strength minutes lately and empty net situations.

          Sorry I don’t agree with the Grabovski parallels.

          Franson is where your warnings of cap he’ll have the most merit. I’m on the fence on this one and understand the implication of big money on D but Franson has played great at evens and shows a desire to improve his game. Term is big but if they can get him at something better than Clarkson I don’t see how he isn’t a top 4 dman for the next 4-5 years.

  6. leafs_wallace93 says:

    The reason this team is winning is the same as anytime the Leafs are hot, Bernier and Riems are standing on their head.

  7. blaze says:

    Really because their numbers are hardly impressive. Goaltending has been good with flashes of brilliances but is far from being the driving force.

    Having an scorching offense and depth like they havnt seen in 10 years is the biggest cause.

  8. doorman says:

    The team and some of it’s players are improving, nobody is claiming all problems are solved. But I for one would rather see steps forward then backwards

  9. Gambo says:

    Okay. This team is for real. I’m now transitioning from a skeptical fan to an annoying “your team is trash, my team is the best” fan.

  10. leafy says:

    I’m trying to plan the Leafs Stanley Cup parade route. Should it be on Yonge street or should it go along Queen street?

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