Leafs Want Playoffs

According to Sportsnet.ca, the Toronto Maples Leafs acquired Luke Richardson from the Columbus Blue Jackets in exchange for a 5th round draft pick and a conditional 4th rounder.mikster’s view:

Well, I guess the Leafs ain’t sellin`! I think John Ferguson Jr. should have sold and cleaned up the house, but with a win against the Canadiens last night, Leafs ownership and JFJ feel like the playoffs are not too far.

Luke Richardson is starting to show his age. He is quite slow, but a 5th rounder won’t hurt too much unless five years from now that pick becomes a valuable player. Richardson provides strength on defense and more stability. Good addition by the Leafs, but that means there has to be a lot more dealing going on since the Leafs struggle on the offensive lines, especially with Lindros out for the year. Expect another move to be made, even to clear up some salary to make another addition.


98 Responses to Leafs Want Playoffs

  1. toronto77 says:

    and what does that say about alex foster? is that the guy who plays for minnesota.

  2. -momo- says:

    I think the point there was when the move was made, it was the old NHL, and made sense.

  3. Gretzkin says:

    Wow Leaf Fans how annoying is it being Leaf Fans.

    Luke Richardson?

    It’s just too funny at the moment.

    I’m sorry for overdoing it, but this is the Leafs Saving Grace?

    Tell me I’m not the only one actually Laughing?

  4. JannettyTheRocker says:

    Yeah, okay…….I’m really worried.

    We are in line for a playoff birth, and Roloson just makes us that much stronger. No worries here.

    The Leafs??? Already out of the playoffs. I don’t think you should worry though. Just jump on the Senators bandwagon. You know you wanna!!!

  5. skidragoon says:

    at least we didnt give a 1st rounder for a goalie past his prime if he ever had a prime

  6. Gretzkin says:

    No, that’s Kurtis Foster in Minny.

    He would have been a good pickup

  7. skidragoon says:

    but when u talk about rolson hes a god even tho his stats stink and he was ona good team… nice work

  8. skidragoon says:

    you secretly like the leafs or you wouldnt be in the threads you would just pass it over and think to yourself how annoying we are

  9. skidragoon says:

    he came from colombus moron

  10. Gretzkin says:

    His Stats aren’t that bad.

    He’s proven himself in the past.

    I’d rather somebody else, but he’s better than they had, and they didn’t have to give up much to get it.

    That, my friend, is what a good move looks like.

    Now, if we could have got Luke Richardson, well, that would be a different story, you’d have to book the parade now, because he is totally going to be the difference.

    I think you get the point.

    The Oilers are better with Rollie, and the Leafs, well, SUCK

  11. leaf_luver says:

    If your not a Leaf Fan get the hell out what would bring you in to leaf fan territory.

  12. Gretzkin says:

    Actually, he’s originally from Ottawa.

    He happened to play for Columbus this year, who I actually think are a good team.

    Had Nash been around, they’d be singing a different tune.

    And he was the #6 Defenseman there, look at the numbers.

    http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/stats

    He’s a HOBO.

  13. toronto77 says:

    than who’s alex, just some guy who hasn’t played all season?

  14. beefjerky says:

    Adam foote is minus 16, i guess he sucks too

  15. Gretzkin says:

    No, I openly love to Laugh at the Failures of such a stupid organization and their fans.

    The Leafs Brass has been all wrong for eons.

    If Bobby Clarke were the GM in Toronto, I believe that they would have won the cup, and had a good team.

    I live in Toronto, so I’m surrounded by buffoons who think they have a good hockey team, and that they are always one or two moves away from the cup.

    It’s like a Trainwreck.

    The Toronto Trainwrecks, not that’s a more apt name, don’t you think?

  16. JannettyTheRocker says:

    Atleast we are going to the playoffs…………..what else matters??? You know jackshit about hockey, so shut up.

  17. 92-93 says:

    actually that’s not a big deal – the guy is playing for columbus – remember? geesh.

    i mean, 3 seasons ago – in his last year with Philly, he was a +18 – but that is just because he was playing for Philly.

    +/- doesn’t always tell the story – with O’Neill it does, but with Steen it doesn’t

    (get it?).

  18. 92-93 says:

    ‘dah, i’m gretzkin, adam foote sucks and Mezaros is the best defenseman in the league’

  19. Gretzkin says:

    Foster, a 21-year-old native of Canton, Michigan, led Bowling Green State University in scoring this season collecting 51 points (11 goals, 40 assists) with 40 penalty minutes in 38 games played. Heading into last weekend’s playoffs, Foster was one of just five players in the NCAA to record over 50 points this season. Foster also scored at least one point in 30 of the 38 games he played in.

    Foster was named CCHA Offensive Player of the Month in November after scoring 18 points (four goals, 14 assists) in eight games played.

    During two seasons at Bowling Green State University, Foster posted 82 points (19 goals, 63 assists) in 72 games.

    Alex’s father, Dwight, played in 541 NHL games over 10 seasons (1977-87) with the Boston Bruins, Colorado Rockies and Detroit Red Wings.

    http://www.mapleleafs.com/news/news.asp?story_id=1934

  20. Gretzkin says:

    The Jackets as a whole has sucked this year…

    you’ll get no argument from me.

  21. Gretzkin says:

    Duh, I’m 92-93. I named myself after a Leaf Team that I was too young to watch play and know nothing about them.

    I’m a huge poser, that’s why I’m called 92-93.

  22. Gretzkin says:

    Listen Gramps, put down your cane…

    …oh my god, your Luke Richardson, can I have your autograph?

    Actually, never mind… what’s the point?

  23. quick_stick says:

    Yo, Moron! Did you happen to notice who Edmonton gave up a 1st round pick and a conditional 2nd for??? LOL Maybe you want to do some research and see how old your “new” goalie is.

    Classic moronic post by JannettyTheRocker

    Here’s an idea, think before you write.

  24. dcz28 says:

    Not that i agree with what the Oilers gave up for him but its a 1st and a conditional 3rd round if they sign him not a 2nd round

  25. quick_stick says:

    You are without doubt one of the dumbest people on the interent, let alone this site. Seriously, do you need to enlist help to have your computer turned on? If someone hides your remote, do you know how to turn your tv off? If someone asked you what 2 plus 2 is, would you answer “Go Oilers Go!” If doctors were able to reverse a lobotomy, how quickly would you try and get on the list?

  26. quick_stick says:

    thanks for the correction, but I had heard it is a second rounder if they resign him.

  27. habswinthecup-again says:

    I can’t believe that the Leafs can be this stupid again. 3 years ago they should have cleaned house, they didn’t. 2 years ago they should have cleaned house and they didn’t. This year they should have went with more youth, yet they signed a bunch of over the hill way past their prime players – again! And now, this season of all seasons when they actually have something that other teams want and will pay handsomely for they still insist that they are going to make a run for the playoffs.

    They are going to hang onto Belfour and let him go next year for nothing.

    They are going to hang onto McCabe and risk losing him next year for nothing.

    Sundin should be traded this year while he still has a high value( because his is only going down).

    Tucker this season is actually worth something- they will get nothing for him.

    JFJ is an absolute idiot and I cannot believe that the Leaf fans are going to actually take this and let him ruin your team for the next 10 years atleast. Christ I actually feel sorry for all of you.

  28. habswinthecup-again says:

    I can’t believe that the Leafs can be this stupid again. 3 years ago they should have cleaned house, they didn’t. 2 years ago they should have cleaned house and they didn’t. This year they should have went with more youth, yet they signed a bunch of over the hill way past their prime players – again! And now, this season of all seasons when they actually have something that other teams want and will pay handsomely for they still insist that they are going to make a run for the playoffs.

    They are going to hang onto Belfour and let him go next year for nothing.

    They are going to hang onto McCabe and risk losing him next year for nothing.

    Sundin should be traded this year while he still has a high value( because his is only going down).

    Tucker this season is actually worth something- they will get nothing for him.

    JFJ is an absolute idiot and I cannot believe that the Leaf fans are going to actually take this and let him ruin your team for the next 10 years atleast. Christ I actually feel sorry for all of you.

  29. thatleafsguy says:

    whats roloson 36 years old with a 6 and 19 record???

  30. thatleafsguy says:

    Not sure what to make of this acquisition, they basically release czerk then use a draft pick to get a dman at the end of the line. maybe its the jump off to another move, I would like this move if richardson was 27 but…..he is a solid defenseman that knows what he is doing, but this is a faster league now……surely JFJ must have something else up his sleeve.

  31. Kraut182 says:

    Matt Hendricks Maxim Sushinski Petteri Nummelin Peter Podhradsky Mike Danton Mike Stuart

    Scott Heffernan Ruslan Bernikov Nathan Martz

    Wade Davis Michal Pinc Brandon Snee

    Pavel Duma Ryan Glenn David Koci

    Matthew McRae Kristoffer Ottosson Denis Denisov Tyler Kolarik Alexander Barkunov Paul Flache

    Bill Cass Matt Koalska Travis Moen

    Greg Zanon Grant Potulny Sean Connolly John-Michael Liles Nate Kiser Pavel Sedov Artem Chernov Ivan Nepriayev Matus Kostur Nathan Marsters Nolan Schaefer Craig Weller

    That’s a list of the 2000 5th Round picks. Recognize many names? I see J.M. Liles and Mike Danton. Of course if you go back 10 years you can find a bunch of good finds and lucky picks. But for every one of those there are probably 15-20 misses, who will never make a significant impact on an NHL club.

  32. Kraut182 says:

    Matt Hendricks Maxim Sushinski Petteri Nummelin Peter Podhradsky Mike Danton Mike Stuart

    Scott Heffernan Ruslan Bernikov Nathan Martz

    Wade Davis Michal Pinc Brandon Snee

    Pavel Duma Ryan Glenn David Koci

    Matthew McRae Kristoffer Ottosson Denis Denisov Tyler Kolarik Alexander Barkunov Paul Flache

    Bill Cass Matt Koalska Travis Moen

    Greg Zanon Grant Potulny Sean Connolly John-Michael Liles Nate Kiser Pavel Sedov Artem Chernov Ivan Nepriayev Matus Kostur Nathan Marsters Nolan Schaefer Craig Weller

    That’s a list of the 2000 5th Round picks. Recognize many names? I see J.M. Liles and Mike Danton. Of course if you go back 10 years you can find a bunch of good finds and lucky picks. But for every one of those there are probably 15-20 misses, who will never make a significant impact on an NHL club.

  33. gg_idiot says:

    remember last time you said this? leafs picked up francis. they blasted the favoured senators in 7 games.

    zing zanga

  34. Aetherial says:

    What the FCUK.

    I am embarassed to be a Leaf fan right now.

    The biggest question I have is:

    Why the HEHL is JFJ making this kind of deal now. You can’t tell me it wasn’t there a week ago, or two weeks ago. Is THIS what he is working on.

    I would dearly LOVE to see the Leafs stop here. Somehow, I am starting to enjoy their misery.

  35. -Swizz- says:

    i believe he signed an $11 mil 4 year deal in 2002

  36. -Swizz- says:

    interesting move…

    are they really gunning for the playoffs? they just traded klee for a prospect…

  37. leafs4cup says:

    first off, jfj never signed leetch, he traded for him and gave away 2 young and very good prospects and a 1st and 2nd round pick for a 40 year old.leetch was nice to have for the 20 games he played but in the big picture was a HUGE mistake,one of many.

  38. woodsco85 says:

    Well Why dont you speak up and tell us who your team is so we can rip oyu apart, knowing how retarded you are its probably St. Louis. Let me guess your the guy who made out with the fat girl in high school, if oyu even got any at all. So go suck a dick, and get a life. What have you been doin all night just waiting for people to post so you can right down 4 letters. If your gonna post why dont you put someting educated down, rather than some stupid computer jargon. GET A LIFE. I know im speaking for almost every Leafs fans when i say it, and by the way.. the Toronot Maple Laughs.. real original, let me guess you prolly have a sweet barb wire tattoo on your bicep too. And jus tso u know i.m LMAO at the fact that your gonna be masturbating to dial up internet porn tonight.

  39. woodsco85 says:

    But let me guess he sucks to right, i mean in your book he must if hes a Leaf. Probably the worst thing the leafs could do right? well why dont you tell us what the LEafs should have done instead of being a douche bag and writing crap that no one on here wants to read.

  40. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    I wonder who would win in a race, Allison or Richardson?

  41. quick_stick says:

    It was unfortunate for sure, but in defense of this deal, Leetch was under contract for another year, though that was wiped out by the lock out. JFJ gambled that the season would be salvaged.

    To me, mistakes that really stand out right now are signing Domi, Belak and Belfour. Berg is over paid, but not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Klee is having a terrible year, but JFJ just turned him into a very good prospect, so that works for me.

  42. 92-93 says:

    um, i said what?

    well that’s funny because i wasn’t even on the HTR site when the leafs acquired Francis. you must have me confused with someone else. but yeah, i didn’t like the leafs’ signing Francis – it didn’t make any sense then and it still doesn’t now.

  43. 92-93 says:

    yeah your right.

  44. 92-93 says:

    wow, you couldn’t be more wrong. i’ve been watching hockey for longer than you think. i was well into my teens when the leafs were making their cup runs and i knew more about the game then than you know about it now – and i can know that just by reading the comments that you’ve made on this site. and if you are older than me – then that’s just sadder still, usually the older you are the more you know but i guess that’s not true with you.

    you are a sad sad bitter and pathetic little man (re: your ridiculously over-the-top anti-Cujo comments).

  45. 92-93 says:

    i want to qualify and adjust my earlier criticisms (re: before JFJ traded Klee).

    First off, yes acquiring Richardson wasn’t a good idea – even as a replacement for the soon-to-be derparted Klee – and even though the leafs are shallow on defensive depth and have injuries there to their young guys. On the whole, the leafs should be making much more bold moves – Allison and McCabe, etc. (i understand why others wouldn’t take Belfour). They should also be following up the very good moves of getting rid of Klee and Czerkawski with Berg and Khavanov and Belak but either a) JFJ thinks we need the depth on D or b) other teams don’t want them because they suck.

    HOWEVER, overall, today’s leaf moves were not that bad on the whole. (by the way: do non-leaf fans understand what i mean by when i say that this year is a ‘transition year’ for the leafs? are they seeing a pattern here? there is a free agent frenzy period at the start of the season and the leafs are forced to make smaller, less significant moves … and the same thing goes for today – while other teams are making the big moves, JFJ is doing the smaller stuff – which is fine. however, the big moves have to be made too – re: McCabe and Allison.

    if you look at it this way, we basically trade in Klee (to Devils) at 1.9 million and get Richardson at 2.1 million and on top of that get Suglobov but lose a couple of picks. I believe Richardson signed a 4-year deal back in the summer of 2002 for 11 million dollars (according to: http://www.puckjunkie.com/archive/2002_03/offseason/sfa040702.htm and http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2002-free-car-dal.htm ). But i hope i am wrong. i hope the leafs are not stuck with this guy for next season too. in any case, the leafs don’t move that much in terms of cap space.

    the key to all of this moving is the steal that JFJ did later on in the day in the Ken Klee deal. it is PRECISELY THESE KINDS OF DEALS that the leafs need to make more of. i would have been happy getting a pick for klee but we got something better – a prospect with some potential who addresses a need within the organization: a speedy, sniper-type forward.

    Suglobov’s got 48 pts in 51 games with Albany – compare that to Pohl’s 53 points in 45 games. not a bad pick up considering the leaf’s gave up Klee. Suglobov is 2 years younger than Pohl and has a lot more potential than Pohl and he’s been. he is also rated ahead of Jeremy Williams at RW hockefutures.com (http://www.hockeysfuture.com/team/toronto_maple_leafs)

  46. 92-93 says:

    Suglobov info from hockefutures.com (this info obviously needs to be updated – right now he leads Albany in scoring and would place 3rd on the Marlies scoring chart – but he has also played 10 fewer games than Battlgia who is second in scoring with the Marlies):

    Suglobov is the most talented winger the Devils currently have in the system, and with top goal scoring Patrik Elias unlikely to play until November at the earliest, Suglobov may have a good chance to make the Devils right out of training camp. Either way, expect Suglobov to see some significant time in New Jersey for the 2005-05 season.

    oh – and the hockeynews: “Suglobov is a solid scoring prospect that should get a shot at earning regular playing time with the Maple Leafs next season. In swapping veteran Klee, Toronto GM John Ferguson Jr. received a solid return. Essentially, he acquired Suglobov for a fifth rounder, since he dealt that pick earlier for Luke Richardson–a defensive similar to Klee.”

  47. tmltpc says:

    at 2 million dollars… is he really worth it???

  48. 92-93 says:

    back on march 3rd i posted something titled ‘what if nothing happens’ on the trade deadine for the Leafs:

    “what if the leafs cannot or do not make a move – as terrible as that seems. what if the status quo is maintained because Lowe doesn’t want Belfour, or Suter doesn’t want Tucker or Allison for Leopold, etc.? what happens then? well it would suck that is for sure. […] if JFJ is going to do the wrong thing and not make changes now, he is going to have to make that many more changes in the offseason – which includes trading and waiving guys like Khavanov (even if he is JFJ’s pet), O’Neill (despite his personal problems that require him to stay in toronto – after one year, axe him), and Domi (despite his connections to the owner). These things NEED TO BE DONE if nothing is done at the deadline – to free up roster space and to free up cap space.”

    i went on to post some suggestions and cap space totals and speculate on resignings, etc. but it is clear by the post that Aetherial made about the cap space, things are not looking good for the leafs. If JFJ does not do some so-called bold moves – getting rid of guys who are under contract for next year (O’Neill, Domi, Belak) and not resigning pet projects (Khavanov and Berg) – the leafs are not going to be in very good shape.

    and this is where the problem lies. i am not even convinced that JFJ will say goodbye to Belfour. how crazy is that?

    RELEASE/TRADE/WAIVE the the following nine players: Khavanov, Berg, Belak, Antropov, Domi, O’Neill, Lindros, Allison, Richardson

    RESIGN your young RFAs

    RESIGN McCabe and Wilm

    BRING UP FROM MARLIES: Pohl, Kronvall, Harrison, Battaglia, Suglobov

    FREE AGENT(S): Patrick Elias [or another free agent LW], another goalie to split time with Telly[suggestions?], free agent D-guy [Gauthier?]

    FEEL GOOD STORIES: return of Coliacovo and Pilar

    Elias——————–Sundin——————Tucker

    Ponikorovsky——–Wellwood————–Suglobov

    Steen——————Lindros——————-Stajan

    Kilger——————-Pohl——————-Battaglia

    [Wilm]

    ————McCabe————-[Gauthier?]————

    ————Kaberle————-Kronvall—————-

    ————Harrison————Coliacovo————–[Pilar]

    ——————[free agent goalie]——————

    ——————-[Mikael Tellqvist]——————-

    1) The waiving of Belak, O’Neill, Domi and picking up Belfour’s option for next season is going to cost the leafs in terms of cap space. but letting these guys play is going to cost them more. According to

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/teams/maple_leafs/transactions.html ,

    Khavanov is only signed for one year.

    2) If the leafs aren’t going to trade McCabe (and its evident that they will not) resign him – but not for more than 3 years (he’ll probably get 4) and not for more than 4.5 million (he’ll probably get more). I like Clarke Wilm and I know a lot of other people don’t see what he brings to the game.

    3) The call-ups from the Marlies – something that SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED MORE OFTEN THIS YEAR – will have to happen next year now. I am not sure about Suglobov but I am hoping that all that has been said about him is true and that he will be ready to play next season. Pohl should be given a shot – period. and the young D-guys are better than Berg and Khavanov as we all know. It would be interesting to keep Richardson around for the young guys but he is just too slow and will take up too much cap space. I’d rather go after a free agent D-guy who is younger, can hit, and be more effective over the course of the regular season and playoffs.

    4) As for the 3 free agents that I include – there is loads of flexibility here. first of all, the names I suggest are just possibilities. If anyone can think of others I would like to know them. the leafs are not likely to get a shot at Elias because Lou will probably resign him. but because of Tucker’s flexibility of playing RW or LW, the leafs can go out and get either a LW or RW free agent as long as he will play beside Mats on the first line. The goaltending – another area that could have been addressed at the deadline – will be a big question mark. Go after Cujo? what other goaltenders will be out there? Other possible free agent signings: Friesen, McCauley (and move Stajan to the RW, trade Antropov), Langdenbrunner, Anson Carter, Ruslan Salei, Denis Gauthier, Frantizek Kaberle.

    5) The Lindros situation: I am not crazy having Lindros (or McCabe) in this line-up. But knowing the situation in leafland and the desires of Eric, it is probable that he will return to play for the Leafs around November and will sign the same contract (he really didn’t prove anything this year because of injuries). I am not too concerned about that because if he gets injured again (and he will) – there’s 1.5 million back on the table to get another Centre or winger (considering the leafs already have loads of natural centres anyways). As much as I know Allison would put more points up than Eric, keeping Allison would be much more labour-intensive.

    LW: Elias [approx. 5 million], Steen [720K], Kilger [approx. 800K], Ponikarovsky [700K], Belak [665K].

    Centre: Sundin [6.84 million], Wellwood [approx: 1.25 million], Lindros [1.5 million], Pohl [450K], Wilm [450K]

    RW: Tucker [1.6 million], Stajan [approx: 1.25 million], Suglobov [450K], Battaglia [450K], Domi (waived) [1.25 million], O’Neill (waived) [1.5 million]

    D: Kaberle [4.25 million], McCabe [approx. 5 million], Pilar [700K] Coliacovo [approx: 1 million], free agent D-guy [2.5 million], Kronvall [450K], Harrison [450K]

    G: free agent goalie [approx. 3 million], Tellqvist [500K], Belfour [2 million buyout].

    TOTAL—————————————37.4 million

    Unlike Aetherial’s (very good) article on the leafs financial situation next year, I have assumed that they will resign Wilm. Also, Khavanov – according to the sources I could find – is only signed for one year. Also, I’ve purposely over-estimated the resigning amounts of the young RFAs, as well as the free agent goalie and winger (which I chose Elias at 5 million a year).

    Also, unlike Aetherial, I am giving the prospects a larger role in the Leafs’ roster and financial plans next year (re: Pohl, Suglobov, Harrison AND Kronvall). I just figure why not give these kids a chance, if they don’t do the job, bring up other kids in their place (Woz, White, Williams, etc.) and just combine them with the core players you already have.

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