What do Tomas Kaberle, Ian White, Carlo Colaiacovo and Hal Gill have in common, other than the fact they played on the Maple Leafs defence together for two seasons from 2006-08?


All don’t know where, or if, they will be playing National Hockey League this season.


And they are no by any means alone. A long list of former Leafs unsigned in this summer of the shrinking salary cap makes you wonder who will be back and who will get lost in the shuffle heading to training camp next month.


Most teams have done their buying, save for some bargain basement garage style shopping.


Also without jobs: Steve Sullivan, Brad Boyes, David Steckel, Matthew Lombardi, Tim Connolly, Jamal Mayers and Ryan O’Byrne.


And that’s just the notable ex-Leafs, not including Mikhail Grabovski, who is dealt with elsewhere on this page.



  1. mojo19 says:

    Nik and Poni both signed in Europe as well.

  2. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Lol, Brad Boyes is an ex Leaf? Owen Nolan is without an NHL job too I suppose.

    • mojo19 says:

      Pavol Kubina would have been a closer to modern player to choose. Boyes and Sullivan are pretty far removed, and Boyes never really played here, so good point.

  3. nordiques100 says:

    those ex Leafs are worse than the Cronut Burger

  4. coyotes_bettman says:

    A couple other ex-Leafs looking for work…

    Steve Bancroft
    Rob Pearson
    Dan Daoust
    Rick Vaive
    Luca Cereda
    Allan Bester
    Vincent Damphousse

  5. Grabo to the caps. 3 million/1 year. 3 million is a great deal for the caps.

  6. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Is this ridiculous?

    At the deadline trade Phaneuf for Ryan O’Rielly or an off season move pending Colorado works out an extension for Dion.

    Trade Bozak for a pick(s) in the off season.

    Gives the Leafs breathing room to reup Kessel and Bolland, Kadri, Bolland, ROR, McClement make the Leafs tough to play down the middle.

  7. lafleur10 says:

    HABS sign defenceman douglas murray 1 yr 1.5 million,nice solid sign and addition,finally a big physical crease clearing defenceman at 6″3 245 will really help us with emelin out until december! way to go bergevin another solid move by you.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      I don’t why everyone is writing off Montreal this off season, they’re a definite sleeper.

      • lafleur10 says:

        i think it’s because they surprised and snuck up on teams in the shortened season and people are impressed with what other teams(the leafs,bruins,senators) tc did and with detroit moving into our divison people don’t expect much from the habs, and with the way they ended the regualr season and the playoffs ,people seem them as taking a step back,i think they wil be a better team this season with the additions bergevin made i think they will still be a very good team that will make the playoffs

  8. It’s not a horrible signing, but I don’t know if it’s a good signing either. Murray is just about done in the NHL. He’ll see very limited Ice time. He better get paired with somebody quick on their feet because if anybody has speed coming in on Murray, he’s beat. He’s got size, and hopefully he’ll be able to use some of that when people stop in front of the net. But, I think he’s done after this season as a player.

    • lafleur10 says:

      he’s only 33 and has a lot of hockey left he’s not oldby any stretch and if things go well i could see extend him for a year or 2 ,they said the same thing about ememlin at one point and he’s beeen great this will provide us with depth and will allow emelin’s injury to heal properly,i can see murray paired with markov i think it’ll turn out e a solid signing,plus having him allows guys like tinordi beaulieu time to develop and we can also add tinordi/drewiske/bealiue into the lineup against different teams depending on who we play having size never hurts

  9. LOL. If you think the problem is his age, you have no clue who Murray is. His size is a plus, and his age isn’t the problem. He’s useless on skates unless he’s hitting a player standing still. That’s why he went unsigned until the Habs picked him up.

  10. 93killer93 says:

    Gunnarsson, Carrick, Nilsson
    Oleksiak, Robidas, 2nd

    Franson, Liles, 2nd(DAL)
    Giordano, 3rd(2015)

    Peter Muller 1 year 1mil
    Tom Gilbert 1 year 1mil
    Nazem Kadri 2 years 6mil




    • coyotes_bettman says:

      AND people wonder why people hate on Leafs fans?

      That Gio trade is about the shittiest offer I’ve ever read and I’ve been through the days of seeing Leafs fans refer to Nathan Dempsey as a prospect who was always thrown in on any trade – I have a feeling Calgary isn’t going to give up Gio for Franson and Liles – Liles would be bought out on any other team in the NHL and him and Franson are the same player, Gio was the Flames best dman even when they had YOUR Best D-man on their squad so it won’t happen.

      Same as your offer for Oleksiak – just because trades can happen in NHL 2014 on your X-Box doesn’t mean that Feaster is gonna let himself get swindled.

  11. 93killer93 says:

    TSN is full of Hockey Canada articles, so I thought I’d post my mock team. The lines have less to do with who I think should be top 6 or bottom 6, and more with who I think should play together based on the 23 players I picked.

    Stamkos-Crosby(C)-St. Louis



  12. leafy says:

    Because there’s no news on the Leafs, I wanna talk about Batman.

    Affleck as the next Batman? That’s one movie where I hope the villain wins.

    I also heard in the Affleck version, Batman’s parents kill themselves. And right now, Clooney’s on the phone giving Affleck tips on how to suck as Batman.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      If they make a movie of Batman RIP or Catacylsm Afflect would be the right choice.

    • doorman says:

      I thought I had read that it was to play Batman in the next Superman movie and go from there with the role? Still I am hoping with a personal trainer, some supplements and having learned from Daredevil, that it will not be as bad as all think. I am reserving judgement until seeing the film.

  13. Henrique just signed 6 years/4 million per year. Could turn into one of the best contracts around if he can continue to improve.

    • doorman says:

      Yes, I think it could turn out very well. How does this contract play into kadri’s talks?

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        Not for the good.

        • leafs_wallace93 says:

          Locking up Kadri for six years at 4? I’d take that gamble, should help long term against the cap. People have to stop treating Franson like he’s a cornerstone.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            Kadri is no more a proven cornerstone than Franson…he played “sheltered” minutes just as people say Franson did and they both excelled at it and showed they may be ready for more. Franson actually showed he can handle tougher minutes than Kadri. Kadri may very well become a good second line centre, no more important than a quality top 4 D. Kadri may prove to be a first line centre, but the odds of that may not be much better than Franson showing he can develop into a first pairing D.
            The Leafs cannot afford to lose a top 4 d-man with size and offensive ability at the moment any more than they can afford to lose Kadri. Let’s not anoint Kadri as the next guaranteed first line centre after 40+ games in one season where he played limited minutes and when given more minutes his production declined.

            • leafs_wallace93 says:

              He’s a center, he’s was a blue chip prospect and he’s delivering. Everyone rather a bridge so we can pay him six million per if/when he works out?

              Franson is a good PP specialist. He’s replaceable.

              I’ll put it this way, no one would trade Kadri for Franson and everyone would trade Franson for Kadri.

              Leafs get rid of Franson for picks that they can use at a later date to trade for Franson’s replacement. Liles plays as a fill in/bandaid in the meantime. Giving Liles minutes to rehab his value to make him tradeable.

              Giving Kadri 4 million long term is hardly anointed top center money, hell it’s less than Bozak and Tyler could have got more on the UFA market.

              • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                The Leafs two big problems are centre and D. Losing Franson and replacing him with Liles is a recipe to miss the playoffs. An un-signed Franson will not return high pick/picks, so I doubt you find his replacement through acquired picks by trading him. Moving Franson will be a big mistake. How many 6’5″ D-men that can produce points and are solid in their own end are out there?
                BTW How is Franson a PP specialist? Phaneuf had more PP points than Franson, yet Franson had more overall points…does that make Phaneuf a PP specialist?
                Franson’s defensive play is way underrated on here. He is solid in his own end, good positionally and rarely gives the puck away. Is he mobile? No. But he makes very good first passes allowing the Leafs to spend less time in their own end. Just because he is big, but not a big hitter, many knock his defensive play. Good defensive play is not just about containment when the puck is in your end, it’s about moving it out with control so you don’t spend as much time in your end. That is what makes Gardiner effective as well.
                I don’t disagree that 6 years at $4mil would be a good gamble on Kadri, it could be a home-run in a couple of years or less. Because Nonis decided to give Bozak 5 years at $4.2 mil, signing Kadri for anything more than a bridge deal is not feasible now.
                I would take Kadri and Franson over Bozak any day.
                The Bozak signing is the problem. I had said we should let him walk because we don’t have the money he wants unless he will sign for about $3mil. Most on here were happy to get Bozak at $4.2 mil…he’s not replaceable but Franson is?After we got Bolland and his cap hit, Bernier and his, then of course Clarkson and his….Bozak should have been let walk. Now we may lose Franson because of keeping Bozak. Horrible trade-off.

                • doorman says:

                  While I agree that Bozak is over paid, he may have commanded the same on the open market, IMO. This was a deal of a little extra to do no more than entice Kessel to resign. Bozak is simply a a tool who benefited from being used by Nonis to secure Kessel. I still think he is over paid for sure. Franson is as important as Kadri, IMO, as they are both young devolopping player we need going forward. I think Kadri’s wiorth is more in the area of Henrique, then Hall/Seguin at this point though. While Henrique is not a good offensively as Kadri however, he is sound all round.

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    Agreed totally Doorman…what a shock.LOL
                    If Bozak was to Kessel like Oates was to Hull, then fine, give Bozak his money. But he is not. There is really no evidence to suggest Kessel needs Bozak other than friendship. For instance, in the playoffs, when things matter the most, Kessel had 3 pts and was a +3 in games 6 and 7 without Bozak. The 5 previous games, Kessel had 3 pts and was a +0. As what Bozak means to the Leafs…we won game 6 and as we all know, should have won game 7. Defensive zone face-offs aside; the Leafs lost game 7 because they took the foot of the gas and allowed the Bruins to take the game to them. Bozak would have not changed that. I also don’t believe Kessel will walk at the end of this season just because Bozak was gone. But, I could be wrong.

                • leafs_wallace93 says:

                  The only other option at C was Garbovski who would have cost more so Bozak stays.

                  I find it funny that Franson was useless under Wilson and now Liles is useless under Carlyle.

                  If Liles is a recipe to miss the playoffs maybe we’re better off in the lottery? Liles is a capable NHL defenseman just no ideal given Gardiner and perhaps Rielly should be ahead of him soon enough.

                  Franson does two things, good pass and a cute wrist shot on the PP that he mixes into 5 on 5 play. Nonis shouldn’t be desperate to keep Franson IMO.

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    I would still have bought out Grabo and let Bozak walk. If Nonis and Carlysle were being truthful about giving Bolland a chance to play a more prominent role…where does kadri AND Bozak fit in?
                    There were other options that could have come up had Nonis been patient. Some players are or will be available due to cap restraints. Franson wasn’t useless under Wilson. Wilson was useless. Liles was never that good under either coach. He is capable, but does not fit Carlysle system. Franson does.
                    For a guy that complains we undervalue Leaf players too much…you seem to be undervaluing our leading D point producer quite a bit.

                    • leafs_wallace93 says:

                      He’s was pretty routinely a healthy scratch under Wilson.

                      You’re under valuing Liles. He’s not better than Franson but you just repackage the picks you get for Franson to get another Franson like talent.

                      Between Liles, Dion and Gardiner will find enough points from the blueline.

                    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                      Like I said, Wilson is an idiot. I said that from his first year as coach here…nothing has changed.lol
                      I don’t mind Liles. He is ok. Franson fits the style of the team Carlysle is trying to ice. And Franson is much better in his own end than you are giving him credit for.IMO
                      I hope they find a way to sign both.

                    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                      On the Kadri/Franson situation. Franson has been quiet, Kadri…not so much.
                      He has made some recent comments that make you wonder if negotiations are not getting poorer as time goes on. I really don’t want to move either player, but if Kadri was to be traded, what do you guys think of this?
                      To Calgary
                      Liles(Tor retains $1.375 per season of Liles contract)
                      To St. Louis
                      To Toronto

                      Calgary gets the talented Kadri and affordable veteran D help in Liles. They have the cap space to sign Kadri to a Henrique type deal.
                      St.Louis gets wing scoring help in the talented and still developing Baertschi, plus the all-around game of Kulimen while shedding some cap to help sign Pietrangelo.
                      Toronto gets a proven #2 centre with great talent and size in Berglund, a solid, strong RHD in Polak and an agitating third line winger in Galiardi. They also now have the cap space to sign Franson.
                      I think it helps the needs of all three teams.

  14. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Anyone else listening to Steve Dangle’s podcast, some good Leafs talk

  15. nordiques100 says:

    The only problem with Liles is the money he makes.

    He isn’t fitting into the top 4 and is making close to 4 million for the next 3 years.

    That is a bit much to take considering it may be better to use Brennan, Blacker, Reilly, Granberg even at the 3rd pairing spot. Never mind having Fraser/Holzer play as the 3rd pair together since they were ok under Eakins with the Marlies.

    There isnt anything really wrong with the player, but considering the options if a salary dump is needed, Liles is the best choice and IMO the only choice.

    A better choice than say dropping Kulemin for a couple of draft picks, or selling off Kessel for futures, or even dropping a player like McClement because that extra 1.5 mil is easier to drop and they have Bolland.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      If you’re dropping Kessel in favor of Kadri and/or Franson why have a team. I’ll say that Kessel is hands down the best pure talent I’ve seen on the Leafs. More explosive than Gilmour or Sundin. If you trade Kessel you’re not getting a talent like him for another 10 years.

      • nordiques100 says:

        that’s what i mean. our only real option is dumping Liles b/c moving anyone else, Kuly, Kessel, Dion, McClement etc, is dumb.

        • leafs_wallace93 says:

          Kuly should be looking for 4+ on an extension so he might be a good trade chip.

          • nordiques100 says:

            possibly. but i rather not think about that now.

            I just know the team could use him for this coming season.

            he is their best defensive winger. He adds good size and his speed adds balance to some of the slower guys.

            i think they need him IMO. I’m personally only thinking of next year, not really worried about if they lose players for nothing.

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