lots of teams need to make moves?

I know it’s only 15 games or so for most teams in the NHL, but there is some talk going on. The three teams who will likely make are a deal are Philadelphia, Ottawa, and Calgary. Philly, and Ottawa, are underachieving, but Calgary has very disappointing, and for sure haven’t been playing like the Stanley cup contenders they were expected to be.


Okay I have two lists. One will have rumors, and one will just be for speculation.

Rumors:

To Ottawa: Robyn Regher
To Calgary: Brenden Morrison.
To Vancouver: Daniel Alfredson.

Honestly I think this rumor is rediculous. Brenden Morrison is not nearly as good as Regher (and I live in Vancouver). John Muckler said he won’t trade Alfi, and I don’t know why Calgary would Regher.

To Vancouver: Anton Vochenkov
To Ottawa: Brenden Morrison.

This does not make sense, the Nucks’ do not need help on defense, and rookie Luc Bourdon who is being described as the next Ed Jovanoski might was sent down to the minors, even though he was playing pretty good, so the Canucks don’t need a defensemen.

To Boston: Evgeni Nabokov
To San Jose: Glen Murrey

Okay i’m NOT sure if this is a rumor, or speculation, because lots of people on this website are making that sound like a rumor, but this kinda makes sense. Obviously it’s not like the Sharks don’t have anyone else who could be a starting NHL besides Nabokov. Toskela is very good, so the Sharks can deal Nabbi somewhere. Murrey would be a great fit for the Sharks. Plus he’s already played with Thornton, so Cheecho, Thornton, and Murrey would be the best line in the NHL.

Speculation

To San Jose: Peter Forsberg, Ed Jovanoski
To Phoenix: Evgeni Nabokov, Simon Gagne
To Philadelphia: Ladislav Nagy, Mark Bell, Steve Bernier, 1st round San Jose draft pick, Keith Ballard.

This would be the biggest trade in a long time. San Jose would unstoppable. Nabokov is worth alot, but losing him won’t matter to the Sharks that much. So it would pretty much be Bernier, Bell, and a 1st rounder for Forsberg and Jovo. I know your all thinking “how does San Jose get such a good?” and you all probably think i’m an idiot, but how often are there deals involving a powerhouse team and a last place team(s) were the last place team(s) got a deal as good as the other team. Phoenix getting Nabbi and Gagne for Jovo, Nagy, is almost not gonna make then better, but the chemistry might be better, you never know. Philly is rebuilding so this could happen, and this would give the Flyer the chance to build the team around Carter Richards, and Pitikan.

There are too many more ideas i could write about, so thats all, but telll me what you think about the article by sending comments.


30 Responses to lots of teams need to make moves?

  1. marcs797 says:

    i know these are speculation and fun to read…. but that is by far one of the most retarded trades for the flyers i have ever seen. do you think clarkie is still GM or something? not only do we NOT get a goalie, but we give up our 2 best players to gain 2 worse players and a first round pick…. i dont think so.

  2. kaoz says:

    To Ottawa: Robyn Regher
    To Calgary: Brenden Morrison.
    To Vancouver: Daniel Alfredson.

    Morrison wouldnt command either of these players in return. I agree with what you said. I think all three teams having glaring holes, so a move will be made to fill them, but I could see Hamerlik included instead of Regher, and someone else other then Alfy in the deal, maybe Vermette? I think that may match up a bit better.

    To Boston: Evgeni Nabokov
    To San Jose: Glen Murrey

    How would Cheechoo, Thornton and Murray be the best line in the league. Firstly, who is the LW in this scenario? Both Murray and Cheech are RW's. Move one of them from that position and I'm guessing they don't play nearly as well. I'm pretty sure this was a rumor, but why wouldnt Boston make a play for a cheaper tender, such as Biron or Bryzgalov, and give up a player who isnt producing such as Sturm. Murray is one of the best players on their team right now.

    To San Jose: Peter Forsberg, Ed Jovanoski
    To Phoenix: Evgeni Nabokov, Simon Gagne
    To Philadelphia: Ladislav Nagy, Mark Bell, Steve Bernier, 1st round San Jose draft pick, Keith Ballard.

    I'm guessing your a San Jose fan. Forsberg is said to be untouchable, and I highly doubt Phili would deal both Forsberg AND Gagne. I could see Gagne being moved somewhere, but is Gagne worth much without Forsberg, his numbers arent that great when not playing with one of the best setup men in the game.

  3. pensfan29 says:

    to pittsburgh peter forsberg to philly eric cairns bag of pucks and an equipment manager, hell well find craig patrick and send him to philly too. then once forsberg gets here crosby gets to beat the shit out of him! whoops he already does that on the ice……………….

  4. PhanufRoxs says:

    remember when Joe Thornton went to San Jose for three pieces of crap? The Eric Lindros trade when he went to Philly? Years a the Coyotes almost gave a way there whole team. Yes I know it sounds of reasonable, but sadly enough that accually happens, I don't know why but I does happen. Gagne sucks withhout Forsberg anyways, so why not get rid of him too? And I said for players anyways, and one is there teams best player (Nagy), Ballard is a good prospect, Bell hmm I unno, but I don't think he will stay a Shark forever, and Bernier will be good, and that draft pick might be useful (even San Jose be around the 25, 26th area for the draft).

  5. Aetherial says:

    San Jose ends up giving up Bernier, Bell, 1st rounder, Nabakov for Forsberg and jovanovski?

    WTF? San Jose has Thornton and Marleau… they don't need Forsberg. This
    I like the trade from Philly's point of view, in terms of cap space and youth anyway.

    It is pretty much a wash from Phoenix's point of view.

  6. PhanufRoxs says:

    I'm not a Sharks fan (although I do like the team), the last one was just speculation remember, no one said it would happen.

  7. HabsRUs says:

    I know is a fun read but why does this guy's horrible, unsourced rumours get posted and everybody elses dont? I mean that last trade is just dumb. Philly loses their top 2 players and gains Nagy, Bell , Bernier and a pick???? come on guy…. Hey heres one for your next post, since you love Phaneuf and all……… TO CGY: Redden TO OTT: Phaneuf, Regher, Iginla and a 1st

  8. HabsRUs says:

    "This is a joke" – QUOTE: Lindy Ruff

  9. moosehockey says:

    Lets look at this trade you're speculating about specifically:

    To San Jose: Peter Forsberg, Ed Jovanoski
    To Phoenix: Evgeni Nabokov, Simon Gagne
    To Philadelphia: Ladislav Nagy, Mark Bell, Steve Bernier, 1st round San Jose draft pick, Keith Ballard.

    Nagy I do believe is a UFA at the end of the year, so if Philly is trying to rebuild that would be a waste for them.

    San Jose has no need for another top notch center in Forsberg with Thornton and Marleau already centering the top 2 lines. Jovanovski has looked horrible this season and is certainly overpaid for a guy that gets hurt every year.

    I know Phoenix is not that good this year but why would San Jose trade a really good goaltender to a team in their division?

    If anything right now all I see San Jose doing is trying to pick up a puck moving defenceman and they will probably not want to give up anything from their lineup… they have the Devils first rounder to trade for that if they feel they need it… they can also just wait until the trade deadline and pick that up for cheap.

    I just don't see how this trade makes sense for the parties involved.

  10. blarneylad says:

    no kidding, dont post garbage like that

  11. Air33 says:

    To San Jose: Peter Forsberg, Ed Jovanoski
    To Phoenix: Evgeni Nabokov, Simon Gagne
    To Philadelphia: Ladislav Nagy, Mark Bell, Steve Bernier, 1st round San Jose draft pick, Keith Ballard.

    What a joke. you just thew down names without any thinking.

  12. big_booty says:

    As was expressed earlier, for Philadelphia to part with their top two players for that particular package is absolute folly.  Forsberg will not be traded, the Flyers have made that much clear.  I highly doubt that Gagne will be traded as well.  Those two together have shown how much of an absolutely deadly combination they can be – to break it up when you really need their productin is foolish.

    Additionally, I don't think that any of the players mentioned are even on the Flyers' radar.  Published speculation has Paul Holmgren looking at Roman Hamrlik, Vesa Toskala, Lubomir Vishnovsky, perhaps Mathieu Schnieder.

    The Flyers' list of untouchables is made up of Forsberg, Gagne, Richards, Carter, and possibly Pitkanen.  Everyone else is fair game.

    The trade I'd like to see:

    R.J. Umberger, Alexandre Picard, and a #2 pick to L.A. for Vishnovsky and Sean Avery.  Probably won't happen anyway.

  13. neilios says:

    OK guys here is some breaking news its been speculated from Darren Dreiger from TSNs hockey Insider that there is some major disscusion between the Canucks and the Flyers,and its also been said by Pierre Lebrun from TheScore.The players mentioned in the deal where.

    To Flyers-Morrison3.5mill,Cooke1.5mill,and Bourdon950000
    To Canucks-Forsberg5.5mill,Carter900000,and Meyer450000

    The trade works for both teams the Flyers get younger with a blue chip prospect in Bourdon,and the Canucks get Forsberg who would play with his best freind Naslund and the Nucks also get a injuered Carter who has been struggling this year and a decent Dman in Meyer.This trade would make the Canucks 4sure Cup contenders.

  14. wingerxxx says:

    That first proposal makes no sense for Calgary.  Why would they give up a cornerstone of their defense, for a 2nd tier center.  Granted, the Flames do need a center, but they don't need to trade a 20+ minute solid defender, and one of their franchise players, to get it.  That's almost as bad as the Iginla for Gagne nonsense that was being posted here a while back. 

    While the second proposal doesn't make much sense as stated, it's more realistic than the first proposal.  I don't see the third one happening either.

    I really don't see the last one ever coming true.  It makes absolutely no sense for Philly to trade Forsberg.  I don't buy the fact that Philly is in flat-out rebuilding mode right now.  Or for Phoenix to give up on Jovo so quickly.  That's just simply too much.

  15. Aetherial says:

    Philly gets younger.

    They are going nowhere with this core, and that includes Forsberg.

    I believe when a team first realizes it is not on the right track, as Philly should realize now, then they should take steps to change their direction as soon as possible. Players like Forsberg's and Gagne's values are not likely to go "up" (well maybe Gagne).

    I still maintain if my Leafs realized this last year, they would not be in the cap situation they are in now, which IS going to hurt.

  16. Aetherial says:

    well BB, normally I tend to agree with you.

    In the case of Forsberg and Gagne though, they sure seem to be "lacking" right now as a top line duo.

    My thinking is that Philadelphia is not near a cup, probably not for a couple years. Forsberg's value is not going to rise, it is only going to fall. Why not consider getting rid of him for some good return.

    He is a horribly consistent injury case also.

  17. Sharks06 says:

    "Speculation

    To San Jose: Peter Forsberg, Ed Jovanoski
    To Phoenix: Evgeni Nabokov, Simon Gagne
    To Philadelphia: Ladislav Nagy, Mark Bell, Steve Bernier, 1st round San Jose draft pick, Keith Ballard.

    This would be the biggest trade in a long time. San Jose would unstoppable. Nabokov is worth alot, but losing him won't matter to the Sharks that much. So it would pretty much be Bernier, Bell, and a 1st rounder for Forsberg and Jovo. I know your all thinking "how does San Jose get such a good?" and you all probably think i'm an idiot, but how often are there deals involving a powerhouse team and a last place team(s) were the last place team(s) got a deal as good as the other team. Phoenix getting Nabbi and Gagne for Jovo, Nagy, is almost not gonna make then better, but the chemistry might be better, you never know. Philly is rebuilding so this could happen, and this would give the Flyer the chance to build the team around Carter Richards, and Pitikan."

    Even though I like the thought of Forsberg coming to San Jose, I dont think he would last very long. If this trade ever does happen I can see the Sharks using him as rade bait at the deadline, or at best keep him to win the cup, then try to get something for him on Draft Day.
  18. Aetherial says:

    I think Philly *should* be in flat out rebuilding mode.

    Their performance in last year's playoffs and their start to the season tells me that the problem is bigger than just a player or two here and there.

    They don't have the core to win, period. They absolutely cannot trade their young talent… so I ssay trade Forsberg while he has some value. He is an aging injury case whose value will only decline.

  19. pensfan29 says:

    you ever think that they are saying forsberg is not on the table because they are trying to see how much more teams would give for him????? just a thought

  20. Atomic_Wedgy says:

    That trade is an absolute rape for VAN.

  21. egreenxc says:

    Holmgren's not going to pull the trigger – he's gonna wait for a full time GM to be named and shove this on him.

    Forsberg's not going anywhere, except maybe at the deadline for a rental (a la Doug Weight).

  22. PhanufRoxs says:

    it's speculation

  23. Sharkattack01 says:

    As stated above, this trade would be a totally one-sided traded that only favors the Canucks. In addition, the Canucks already have 43.583 million against the cap, giving them just above 400,000 of wiggle room, not nearly enough to absorb the extra 800,000 this trade would give them.

  24. PaulK123 says:

     k, thanx for copying my speculation of the threeway deal between ottawa, calgary, and vancouver. Vancouver doesn't need help on defense? Are you high?
    They are in dire need of a strong 2nd or 3rd defenseman. btw for the three way flyer, san jose, phoenix trade i have twwo words for you "salary cap"

  25. nova_scotia123 says:

    Two words for why this would not work…."salary cap"

  26. saku_rulz says:

    calgary is looking for a n.1 center…mtl will have big trouble on their blueline at the end of the season so :
    to calgary : kovy +  prospect
    to mtl : regehr+kobasew or lombardi
    also we have to involve picks being sent to calgary
    yes its a little more money on calgary's cap but we could use a guy to dump salary like a 3rd liner or 4th liner involved in the trade and for next season there's no problem cuz i think its over for amonte and friesen over there…so u have more cap space…
    think for calgary a 1st line of tanguay-kovy-iginla is pretty dangerous and mtl could trade a guy like souray for a forward to replace kovy…2nd centerman!

  27. saku_rulz says:

    calgary is looking for a n.1 center…mtl will have big trouble on their blueline at the end of the season so :
    to calgary : kovy +  prospect
    to mtl : regehr+kobasew or lombardi
    also we have to involve picks being sent to calgary
    yes its a little more money on calgary's cap but we could use a guy to dump salary like a 3rd liner or 4th liner involved in the trade and for next season there's no problem cuz i think its over for amonte and friesen over there…so u have more cap space…
    think for calgary a 1st line of tanguay-kovy-iginla is pretty dangerous and mtl could trade a guy like souray for a forward to replace kovy…2nd centerman!

  28. saku_rulz says:

    calgary is looking for a n.1 center…mtl will have big trouble on their blueline at the end of the season so :
    to calgary : kovy +  prospect
    to mtl : regehr+kobasew or lombardi
    also we have to involve picks being sent to calgary
    yes its a little more money on calgary's cap but we could use a guy to dump salary like a 3rd liner or 4th liner involved in the trade and for next season there's no problem cuz i think its over for amonte and friesen over there…so u have more cap space…
    think for calgary a 1st line of tanguay-kovy-iginla is pretty dangerous and mtl could trade a guy like souray for a forward to replace kovy…2nd centerman!

  29. capouel says:

    by the way Kovalev is a winger

  30. WYflyerfan says:

    Here's a thought why don't you throw another season and get a top pick. That way you can have a top 5 picked player at every position..

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