Luke Schenn gets an A?
Luke Schenn’s performance this season has been amazing. Schenn has been said to be the future of the Leafs organization. With Antropov and Moore gone as well as losing Kaberle, Van Ryn and Hagman to injury does Luke Schenn get the A? What do you think?
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no the pecking order would be Kubina with the largest A then Blake then i'd say stajan. then you have to put jamal just because of his experience, then theres ian white who is actually a plus on that team. there are many other not necessarily better players then schenn but for now better choices for assistant captain. no need to rush the guy. he'll have the C before all of them.
I have really enjoyed Kubina, Ponikarovsky, White, Stajan, and Kaberle, and they all deserve A's.
Players like Schenn, Kulemin, Grabovski, and others don't deserve the "A" right now because they are to young. But I do expect Schenn to get it one day, and maybe even Kulemin.
Ben Ondrus's salary is $500K which makes him the most expensive punching bag in the world.
Schenn is really an impressive player – the "real deal" if you will – and I for one am going to love seeing him play for Canada at the Worlds this spring.
But the kid isn't even legal age in Canada until November next year – and you have to play on a team with either no players able to step up and lead or be an absolute star to get a letter on your chest before you're 19.
I agree totally there is no reason to put any more pressure on Schenn or to rush him along even more then he already has accelerated and excelled.
Luke Schenn #2 – D
DOB: Nov 02, 1989
Age: 19
Place of Birth: Saskatoon, Sask., Canada
HT: 6-2 WT: 216
Shoots: R
NHL Seasons: 0
Drafted by Toronto in 2008 (1/5).
He's legal age already..
You know what, I would not trade Alexei Ponikarovsky. He is huge like Antropov, and similar to him in every shape and form, instead, Antropov has better hands, and Poni is a bit faster. But how many forwards do you know that are Nik's and Alexei's height and weight that can put the numbers that they can, its rare. Now that Nik is sadly gone, we should keep Alexei for the rebuild.
I think he's probably talking about in the states where I think it's 21?
Ponikarovsky has good size, strength, balance, and skating. The problem is he doesn't add up to the sum of his parts. He hasn't been able to find the consistency needed to reach that next level of a star player.
Having said that, I still like him because he's still a quality forward. You just don't throw guys like that away unless he's slated to walk as a UFA and you've got no choice but to get picks.
For those who are saying that he shouldn't get an A because of his age or experience I don't agree. Sidney Crosby got an A in his rookie season, and before he even turned 20 he was named captain of the Penguins, it seems to have worked out pretty well for him don't you think? Toews is just 20 and is the captain in Chicago.
Young players can get C's and A's but the only difference is that there is a lot more pressure in Toronto just for him to be successful, and being expected to be the captain in the future. He still is learning the way of the NHL and he doesn't need a letter on his jersey to lead, and right now it would only add more pressure to disrupt his learning process.
I agree it's too early to give Schenn the A.
Not only do you want to let the kid focus on developing without adding distractions, but also he simply hasn't paid his dues yet. A lot of older vets on the team who can take a leadership role.
Probably we will see Blake, Kubina, and either White, Poni, or Stajan until Kaberle returns then it will be Kabby, Blake, and Kubina.
I can think of one example of a very young non-all star player who was named captain. Bryan McCabe was the Islanders captain in 1995 when he was only age 20. But that's very unusual for young players who are not yet stars. The only reason the Isles made McCabe captain was because they were full of young players almost exclusively. The Leafs are a little different.
I'm on the other side of most people here and think this is incredibly smart. This season is a lost cause for the leafs, so why not give the kid a new kind of experience? There is no pressure on him to lead the team into the playoffs, or anything like that. The reason this was done is so he can get some experience being the guy that talks to the ref after whistles etc to discuss the calls and things like that. In no way is this the leafs saying "hey Luke you got an A now so lead us to the cup right now." It's more along the lines of "Hey Luke, we want to give you a bit more responsibility to see how you do so we are gonna try giving you the 'A' for a few games."
Getting an A can be rotated constantly, so its nothing crazy serious. He's not being expected to lead the locker room. I hardly think that a few games of him wearing it will kill his development.
I typed that like he is wearing the A…lol… I was up way too late last night…lol… But yeah, i think he should be tested out for a few games to see how he reacts.
In my mind Schenn has the ability to lead a team if he was given the chance at being an assistant. I don't think anyone is saying throw the C on him yet, but he could be capable of being an assistant in a city where the media pressure isn't so high. But with the pressure of the media and fans in this city, he has to worry about making it through this season and maybe next season before he can start worrying about getting those labels. All I was pointing out was that there are young guys who can lead so it wouldn't be totally out of the question for a young guy to get the A. I still think it would be better to wait a year or two for that though.
I'm running on little sleep today. Although I was talking about getting the "A", I was thinking of the "C". Getting the "A" might not be a bad idea. Some good early experience.
I'm also running on little energy today. I was thrown off by the A thinking Schenn will be getting the C. I need more coffee badly.
But the kid isn't even legal age in Canada until November next year – and you have to play on a team with either no players able to step up and lead or be an absolute star to get a letter on your chest before you're 19.
absolute star to get a letter on your chest before you're 19.
The real question is who is the Leafs next captain? And how long will it be until we find one.
Well I agree with your assesments of Poni. He is a decent guy to have. He is very consistant (his last 3 seasons his goal totals have been 18, 22, and 20, with 17 this year he should be right in that same range again).
My problem with him is like leafy said, although consistant on a yearly basis, his play throughout the season is far from consistant. He'll score some goals here and there but he is invisible most of the time and on long stretches.
The Antropov comparisons are not fair, Poni does not have the ability to dominate a game the way Antropov can. Poni is a decent support guy at best, but for $2 mil, a consistant 20 goal guy is nothing to complain about.
I like it. I wouldn't mind them giving Schenn the A for a little bit while Kaberle and Van Ryn are hurt.
I think its time we give someone the C though. Sundin moved on, the trade deadline is over, so let's put the C where it belongs already on Kubina's jersey.
Oh well at first I just thought he might have been confused thinking the legal ages are the same, but I guess he just doesn't know that Schenn is 19 not 18 anymore.
I think he's a good enough leader for it, but might be throwing on too much pressure.
Nah my Math is just pathetic at that time of the morning!
Blame it on Day light savings time Leafy! that's why my math skills stunk up the joint this morning.
this is a funny article because the first game after the deadline, with moore and antropov traded, i was looking to see if schenn would have an "A". he didnt, and i dont think he is ready just yet. i think they should maybe get for a couple of games while kabrle and van ryn are out, or maybe the last home and away game of the season to give him a feel for it. and depending on who the leafs get in the summer, give it to him next year, or rotate it again. he is definatley a presence on the ice and i notice everytime he is on the ice.
he is for sure the future captain of this team.
Everybody should check out this clip of a 1929 Chicago game. Interesting to see how the game was played in days long past.
Also check out that guy cleaning the ice in the pre-zamboni days. Haha!!!
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haha I know what you mean, had a test today I was so tired I ended up having to cheat on it so I wouldn't fail 😛
haha I know what you mean, had a test today I was so tired I ended up having to cheat on it so I wouldn't fail 😛
Hey guys im kinda new here i have been visiting this site for like 2-3 years now but jus got an account, im a leafs fan but not a stupid one. But ya i was an a Bulldogs vs Marlies game a couple days ago and honestly the leafs farm isnt completely bare like there isnt any superstars but players that could help the team in the future. Jiri Tlusty and Tim Stapleton are doing wonders for the marlies. alot of people like Jeremy Williams and i like him also he plays hard and has a good shot he got a hat trick in the game i saw. a guy i really like though is Jaime Sifers hes a good defencemen i think he has the potential to me a 3-4 guy hes a good skater, physical and passes well. one guy i dont like at all is this Andre Deveaux he looks lost when he has the puck in the offencive zone to many times i saw him lose it and stand there looking around for it
Welcome to the site Tavares-Stamkos. I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head in your assessment of the Marlies.
I've been saying for the longest time, Tlusty just needs time. He's not Alex Steen. He has tremendous skills, he's an extremely strong skater, nice passer, and has a great shot. Patience.
I too have noticed Sifers is a great skater. He's just learning the defensive game right now, but you're right, he could potentially be a core D guy some day.
I've always liked Jeremy Williams' shot. Not a big physical specimen by any means, but he can score. I'm old enough to remember Steve Thomas when he was just breaking in with the Leafs in 84-85, and Williams reminds me a little of Thomas, but it remains to be seen if he'll take it to the next level.
I wouldn't worry too much about Deveaux. He's just there to provide muscle and nothing more. He clearly lacks skills and is strictly a role player, making sure his team is not pushed around.
Ya good comments.
Sifers doesn't have potential to be a 3-4 defensman though, in my opinion. I think he is what he is. He's what 26, 27 years old? He'll be a solid guy to call up when there are injuries but I don't think he'll ever emerge to that level.
He looks a lot better at the AHL level then he does in the big leagues.
thanks and ya well the leafs do have some promise when it comes to sifers and tlusty.
Hopefully we get a 3rd or 4th overall in the draft cuz even though tavares is the prize theres always the possibility he flops and it happens more often with 1st overall picks that have to much hype, and im not a fan of hedmen cuz for one the leafs dont need defence to bad.
Im thinking the guys the leafs should be after is who we all have been syaing for a while Braydon Schenn cuz burke likes brothers but also we could take a look at Matt Duchene. hes a good canadian kid can skate, good passer and has an accurate shot. the kid can play.
But im 19 and my dad works for CBC and he was hearing that the reason the leafs took kolzig of tampa's hands was that there is a possibility that tampa will switch the leafs spots in the draft which will give them the opportunity to draft B.Schenn or Duchene
That is interesting about switching spots in the draft. The Leafs did Tampa ownership who are losing $ a favour by taking on essentially useless contracts in return we get a 4th rounder for our trouble. We also swapped prospects, with us taking back an injury prone defensman, in return we work out some kind of deal to move from 6th or 7th overall to 4th, and we maybe give them an additional pick back.
Either way, Burke and Nonis seem to have made some friends and future trading partners in Tampa.
And I agree about Schenn and Duchene. Also Cowen is a big name the leafs might go after, and everyone is talking about Magnus S-P.
ya Magnus s-p is talked about but i think that burke should go after canadian boys. and isnt cowen a defencemen? the leafs i think need to focus on drafting a power forward like schenn and duchene
When you're drafting in the top 10 you should target whoever you feel is the best available player, don't worry about if its a d-man or a forward. Thinking long term, the guys you draft are the ones you build around, you dont draft around the guys you have. Ya dig?
Welcome Tavares-Stamkos14, nice to see another Leaf fan joining this site. I agree with you, Tlusty and Stapleton are very good players. They have comapred Stapleton to Wellwood, but a better skater, and well, not a lardo like Kyle was. A little off topic, but I heard he also smoked a pack a day? Sifers is good to, but I think his size is hurting him not being with the Leafs.
Anyways, welcome, and beware the Habs fans will jump all over you if you say something they don't agree with. But if they ever bother you, ignore it, and I will take out the trash, like always.
hey thanks buddy im a younger guy im 19 but i have been seriously into hockey and trades and certain players since i was about 12 so. yes i am a leafs fan but not one of those dumb ones that thinks our players all deserve 1st rounders in trades lol. but ya habs fans i know the kind ur talking about they think there players are the best in the nhl honestly i dont see the hype on there players especially kovalev i hate him hes overrated at least in my eyes. i think the habs screwed themselves when they let Mark Streit go. since then look at the habs not nearly as good as when he was there
haha. Im the younger guy at 18. I agree with you, I think Habs fans overvalued one good season. They rip on Antriopov, but I can rip on every single Hab because they all had one good season. Even Blake, Ponikarovsky and Stajan are having better than mostly all of the Habs. And that does not include Moore and Antropov when they played for the Leafs.
you're retarded. Kubina shouldn't even be in the NHL. give the C to coach Wilson….even he'll tell you he's the leader on this team…arrogant prick.