Marleau to Toronto makes sense


Go ahead: buy your Patrick Marleau Toronto Maple Leafs jerseys.

Let’s cut all the garbage: Maple Leafs general manager Brian Burke said last week that he wanted to add a first line winger with some muscle and scoring touch. This isn’t “moving heaven and earth” to get John Tavares . The draft was too big a puzzle to pull that off.

But throwing money at a guy? Burke can do that better than anybody and remember: for better or worse he usually does what he says he’ll do.

So never mind the song and dance that’s going to follow. Or that Marleau doesn’t mind San Jose – there are few places I’d rather live than the Bay area, too. Of that it’s such an obvious marriage that a true skeptic would shake their head and say: ‘Nah, too obvious. Never happen.’ But if Marleau really wants to think about it, he’ll realize that even though the Leafs have their own warped history – 1967 and all that – being on the same team as Dany Heatley dooms him because Heatley is the ‘Typhoid Mary’ of NHL players: he brings nothing but bad karma with him. He’s like the ‘Old Maid’ of NHL players … the guy you don’t want to be stuck with.

Patrick Marleau .


Get used to it.

43 Responses to Marleau to Toronto makes sense

  1. Tachmo says:

    I can't see it with Wilson being the head coach. I am pretty sure that relationship was rocky in SJ. Clearly evident when Marleau had 30 points a few seasons ago.

    It would be a good signing for Toronto though. Not much better on the free agent market.

  2. mojo19 says:

    I think you might be right about Wilson. But ya Marleau seems like a no brainer, he'd be a good fit anywhere, he's just a really solid player and great goal scorer.

  3. leafy says:

    I say screw Wilson and let's sign him. Exactly what we need. A proven producer and a great fit for Kessel.

  4. hockey_lover says:

    While I do think Marleau would be a good signing for any team and that he is a solid player, I think "great" goal scorer might be overstating a bit.

    Before Thornton came to SJ, Marleau was a decent scorer but never hit 30 goals (did hit 28 though). I wouldnt call that "great."  When Thornton showed up, he did blossom a bit more and scored at a much higher rate.

    However, Toronto doesnt have anyone in the same premier passer a la Thornton. Do they have guys that can distribute? Sure. But nothing close to Thornton.

    I think its unreasonable to expect that Marleau comes to TO and pots 45 goals again. I think 33g / 67pts is right around where he will be with "most" teams. Certainly good and again, solid .. but great?

  5. nordiques100 says:

    I think at the end of the day, Burke is going to do whatever he wants regardless of how Wilson feels.

    Its more about how Marleau feels. If he doesnt want to come here because of wilson, that is his choice and nothing can be done about it unless the Leafs can wilson.

  6. number15 says:

    After the way Marleau played in the playoffs compared to the other big guys (Thornton/Heatly), I think SJ will resign Marleau if he is willing on staying, which it looks like he is.

    SJ would rather "trade", Thornton and resign Marleau in my view. This way they get the most for value out of the moves…… It would still be very costly to trade for Thornton even with the playoffs history.

    I'd like Marleau in Toronto, but SJ wont let him walk unless he said "no" to them.

  7. nordiques100 says:

    yeah but come July 1st and he has no contract, SJ cant say bunk. that's really the scenario people are talking about here.

    and if some team, be it anyone, including toronto throws $$$ at him, that's what would do the talking.

  8. mojo19 says:

    Ya but nords, I don't think its a case of Burke signing, or not signing a guy because of the way Wilson feels. I think it would be a case of Marleau maybe opting to not sign in Toronto because he might not wanna play for Wilson.

    But if Burke is targeting Marleau, I hope that isn't the case, cuz I like this guy.

    And to hockey lover, I believe Marleau would be a safe 30 goals no matter where he goes.

  9. lafleur10 says:

    marleau won't and will not sign in toronto because he wants to win a cup and play for a contender,not a team that is miles away from the playoffs and the cup! if you had a better team and your contenders then yes it could and would be possible look for him to either re-sign with the sharks or  sign with the kings

  10. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    "Marleau to Toronto makes sense"

    for toronto it does, not for Marleau.

    Marleau has played on some pretty good Sharks teams (regular season obviously) that were "supposed" to go to the cup finals every year. Marleau either stays in San Jose and tries to complete that task or goes to another CONTENDER. See the word that i capitalized? Marleau's lived the heart ache of early round exits, why in gods green earth would he sign with a team that will struggle to make the playoffs for the duration of his contract?

    Marleau's not some early 20 something player anymore, he doesn't have the time to wait for Burke's 10yr plan to pan out.

  11. nordiques100 says:

    "why in gods green earth would he sign with a team that will struggle to make the playoffs for the duration of his contract?"

    i guess that rules out signing with the habs then.

  12. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    Well genius, i don't think the fact that the habs struggle to make the playoffs rule them out, the fact that there's a salary cap in hockey and they're right against it does.

    Such a feeble attempt at stirring the pot nords. Just plain weak.

  13. leafstime says:

    After the Leafs sign Marleau, they should go after the Hawks players. After they win the cup like their expected, the Hawks will want to clean house to stay under the cap. This is where my trade idea comes in.

    Kadri, Hanson, Gunnerson, Exelby, Primeau, a fourth and sixth pick for Toews, a fifth and future considerations. This way the Hawks keep all their other players. The Leafs get a passer to set up Marleau and Kessel. Do it Burke.

  14. b_devils says:


    take it easy on the drugs budy
  15. TheLeafNation91 says:

    If we did sign Marleau…I would not want him as our center and keep him at wing


    You got the speedy goal scorer, the playmaker, and the gritty scorer


    Those should be a decent top-two lines, with speed, playmaking ability, and grit, no?

  16. mojo19 says:

    That 2nd line looks like it would flake out. I'd still wanna bring in another top 6 forward if possible.

    But ya, not bad, and I like Marleau better on the wing as well. How much would you sign Marleau for? Do you think 6 years $36 million is reasonable? That would be 6 mil a year for the guy from age 32-38. A little light the first couple years, a little heavy the last couple but pretty fair for both sides I'd say.

  17. blaze says:

    Off-Season Plan
    Kaberle to STL for Backes and a 1st
    Grabovski to ATL for a 2nd
    Reimer to ANA for a 3rd
    Sjostrom and a 5th to NYR for Brandon Prust

    Re-signs and UFAs

    Kulemin           3y, 2.5m
    Mitchell            1y, 1m
    Hanson            2y, 1m
    Prust               2y, 1m
    Marleau           5y, 6.25m
    Armstrong       3y, 2.5m
    let walk, Exelby,Primeau,Lundmark,Wallin,Van Ryn

    Marleau – Bozak – Kessel
    Kulemin – Kadri –  Backes
    Stalberg – Mitchell – Armstrong
    Prust  – Hanson –  Orr

    Phaneuf – Beauchemin
    Schenn – Komisarek
    Finger – Gunnarson


    The Leafs would head into the draft with a 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th and 7th. This team should make the playoffs with a deeper prospect pool and has flexibility for next off season. Giguere would be off the books and Finger can be sent to the minors, possibly replaced by a cheap Aulie. A guy like Thornton could be added pushing Bozak to the third line turning TO into a possible contender in the East.

  18. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    Considering Exelby and Primeau are UFA's, i'm sure if the hawks wanted those plugs so badly, they could just wait a month and sign them for free (not gonna happen).

    So know the trades Kadri, Hanson, and Gunnarson for Toews. The only real player of value going to Chicago is Kadri, and they already have a waayy better version of him in Toews.

  19. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    I look at the names Marleau & Kessel and then below the words "speedy goalscorer" and "gritty" scorer. Which of the 2 are "gritty", because both are panzy's who shy away from contact.

  20. nordiques100 says:

    just trying to stoop down to your level so you can actually comprehend.

    comprehend means understand.

  21. nordiques100 says:

    got to read the 2nd paragraph man.

    that is what i said. if marleau doesnt want to come here cause of wilson, thats his perogative.

  22. leafmeister says:

    I like it, but there is no way Marleau accepts less money then he makes now. It would take at very least 7 mil.

  23. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Marleau is a pretty gritty goal scorer…

    You should be the last one to mention panzys…Because your biggest tough guy `Lapierre`might be the biggest one of them all…

  24. TheLeafNation91 says:

    He`s just angry that his team went to the cup conference finals and got smoked…

    Not to mention they draft alot lower

    Not to mention all their draft picks are busts

    That Burke has done more in one year to change a franchise and Gainey has done shit all in his long tenure

    That free agents seem to be choosing Toronto these days with the changed environment

  25. mojo19 says:

    oh ya u did say that. sorry i usually dont read the whole thing, even though that was a relatively short comment. haha

  26. mojo19 says:

    I like it, good plan. Only thing I would say is that you might as well save the bit of cap space and save the 5th rounder cuz Prust is no better than Sjostrom.

  27. blaze says:

    I would be willing to go as high as 7m but no higher for Marleau.

  28. blaze says:

    Sjostrom and Prust are both good PK guys but the reason I'd like to add Prust because he bangs more and is one of the most active light heavyweights in the league. I feel pretty confident that Burke will be looking for a back up scrapper to ease the load on Orr and Prust – Hanson – Orr could be a great crash line.

    I was looking to add as many hits to the forward group as possible with the additions of Backes, Armstrong and Prust.

  29. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    LMAO! Free agents choosing Toronto these days with the changed environment? Komisarek and Beauchemin are the only established free agents that went there.

    Komi at 4.5M? The only reason he went there is cause the leafs were silly  enough to give him that kind of money. How'd that work out for you guys? What he play, 30 games? What a steal.

    Beauchemin. He was a stud this year….not. Leaf fans want him and his 3.8M gone because of a crowded blue line.

    Giggy, Phaneuf, and kessel were all traded for. TRADED FOR.

    The only guys you get via free agency are all over aged college players that were never drafted, and a bunch of crap from the euro leagues (wallin, frogren). Gustavsson's not bad, but his heart problems are likely gonna be his downfall. The guys never gonna be healthy an entire year. A crap shoot for sure, but don't act like any of them are gonna be more than 2nd-3rd liners at best.

    One of the other reasons that over aged college players pick Toronto is that they see how pathetic there forwards are and figure if they can skate in a straight line that they have the potential to be a top 6 forward on the Leafs.

    Hate on the habs collapse in the conference finals all you want Leaf fans, but here's the funny part. The leafs were actually GOOD in the late 90's-2000s while the habs were pathetic.

    They've both been to the same amount of conference finals since 1994.

  30. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    and then this happened……………

  31. lafleur10 says:

    weren't not angry at all!
    i'll bet we'll draft better in the draft than you do especially in the 1st rd………..on that's right your not picking in the 1st or 2nd rd burke got raped and gave away a superstar in taylor hall for an above avaerage 30 goal man!
    all are picks are busts! think again halak,plekanec,subban price busts yeah ok!
    burke has done more in 1 year than gainey has? hahahahahha like what ? fact burke got raped in the kessel deal!
    freeagents choosing toronto hahahah as 24 cups said i wouldn't call homosarek or beaucehemin  great signings! gainey changed out team and it went to the conference finals! what has burkes changes done? nothing still no playoffs

  32. lafleur10 says:

    put the crack pipe down!

     you are very dillisional …………..typical leafs fan

  33. lafleur10 says:

    i remember it, like it was yesterday still get goose bumps everytime i watch this!

  34. leafy says:

    Which part? The Wendel Clark goal?

  35. leafy says:

    Ya would have been a Leafs-Habs final. Kerry Fraser ruined my life.

  36. lafleur10 says:

    no! the part where bob cole say's now a 24th stanley cup banner will hang from the famous forum in montreal" THE CANADIENS WIN THE STANLEY CUP!

  37. lafleur10 says:

    LEAFY it would've been the gretaest stanley cup final ever played,an epic battle where we still would've won because of patrick roy's goaltending and our impressive 11 wins in a row(10 of which were in o.t.)

  38. TheLeafNation91 says:

    HAHA…To speak of raped in trades how about that Gomez deal

    8 million salary cap hit for a second line center, not to mention giving up one of your top prospects

    Also, huge salaries to old defencemen like Gill or Spacek will do in the Habs

    You have little room in the salary cap to sign maybe your best player, and more

    Halak, Plekanec, Subban, Price (he has done so much)…Yeah.

    But lest we forget A Kostitsyn, S Kositsyn, Fischer, Maxwell, etc. That cost alot of first rounders and then some eh? These were guys you used to brag about!!!

    And your team did not get to the conference finals…Halak did!!

    Also, 10 bucks the Leafs trade Kaberle and will probably draft higher then the Habs!!!

    Also, like I said…For Gainey to be there 7 years and promise the team greatness but see this franchise crash must feel great to you(wow, one conference finals, the same number as the Leafs in the last 10 years but we lasted one more game)

    And, Burke has been on the job for a year and already has changed the franchise dramastically…AKA raping Calgary on Phaneuf, rebbuilding the prospect pool, getting great goalie depth, etc

  39. lafleur10 says:

    i think you had better look at the gomez deal aain and ask yourself who really ot raped! look at all the pieces! tom pyatt is turning out not to be a bad player higgins was a bust in newyork advantage habs;
    gill isn't ovepaid slow as hell but was there a better defencman for 2 rounds of the playoffs? answer:nope! his played was solid can't complain spacek is a little overpaid  but still has something to offer more so then jeff finger plekanec isn't our best player that distiction goes to cammalleri but he's 1 of our top players i'll give you that he'll be resigned too price (as done so much)..yeah well he's better than bustavsson by a mile and his stats were better than giguere's !a.kostitsyn is still a very good player and can play in the top 6 but he's inconsistant he'd be a 1st liner on the laffs no doubt about that!our team got to the conference final along with halak
    if burke deals with the bruins and tes raped again in a kaberle deal he'll get a 1st but i bet gauthier trades price and picks ahead of the laffs! even if you uys do pick before us because of a kaberle trade i'll still put my money on trevor timmins and his draft record over the laffs anyday of the week!gainey did a great job for the seven seasons playoffs 6of the 7 2 swcond rouns trips and a conference final .so far that's better than what burke has done in his 2+ plus years on the job in toronto yeah i will give you tat 1 big time on the rape he pulled with calgary (i admit i didn't see that 1 coming)also you sadi to see this franchise crash must fell reat to you ! well let me ask you this how many cups have you seen the laffs win in our lifetime? i can honestly say i've seen the habs win 8 and that's more than you'll ever see your team win!so you can enjoy the cupless years and trips to the conference finals i'll enjoy the fact that i've seen my team win 8 cups in my life so far!!burke hasn't chaned your team all that much same laffs stuuf as before ,just a different pile,he's the same as his predacesors give away top draft picks for little to no return and little to no rewards! (no franchise players or legit stars) could've had that with hall but he too made the same mistake as the guys before him andit will cost him and the laffs dearly!

  40. leafy says:

    Those playoffs were like a dream. As kids growing up, every Canadian hockey fan wanted one day to see a Leafs-Habs final. It almost became a reality and then Fraser, with his hair style and all, wanted to be the focus of attention.  I still can;t sleep properly.

  41. leafy says:

    Oh, okay. Just checking. lol

  42. lafleur10 says:

    haha… lol!

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