McCabe Re-signs?

According to Sportsnet, Bryan McCabe and the Leafs are closing in on a 5 year deal worth 25M$

It eliminates the trade speculations, but i still think he should have waited to test the market.

What do you think?

425 Responses to McCabe Re-signs?

  1. 92-93 says:

    well, your “Cover the point, and McCabe is useless” comment is inaccurate. True, McCabe’s production went down, but even if McCabe was rendered less effective on the PP, it meant that it opened up other areas on the PP because the PK units had to worry about McCabe.

    in any case, most teams out there envy the leafs and their PP unit and its not that crazy that the leafs have a third of their salary taken up by Kaberle, McCabe, Sundin … since all three are productive guys and star players. Tampa Bay spent $4 million more to keep their big 3 as well.

    my problem is with the no-trade clause. the cap space doesnt worry me, nor does their defensive play. their poor play in their own end is greatly exaggerated … they were like a -1 combined

    … even though they averaged 28 minutes a game on a terrible OVERALL defensive team (re: Tucker, O’Neill, Allison a combined -40)

    … even though they got most of their points on the PP, meaning that their + stats WERE acheived five-on-five (people falsely assume that K and McC are only -1 or -2 because they scored so much … but most of their points came on the PP).

    .. i think Maurice will make a difference with McCabe … no doubt about it.

  2. 92-93 says:

    they were 2nd overall, INCLUDING the most PPGs scored.

    and the stat that blows the ‘as the season progressed it didnt have much success’ comment out of the water is the fact that they went up the PP rankings as March and April progressed.

  3. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    You are ignorant. McCabe may occasionally get danced around but he provides a hell of alot more to a team that makes him a valuable member of the Leafs. His ovreall leadership, support for his teammates, he produces points on the pp, he hits, he blocks shots, he goes balls to the wall no matter what the cir*****stances. Find another player thats crazy enough to go with Chara in a fight and hang in there while he gets thrown around like a rag doll. You are blinded by a pay cheque, I don’t agree with the size of the contract or the no movement clause, but McCabe is an upper tier defenseman and does not get any respect for that. Personally I would not have gone higher than 5 mil per season with a no trade for like maybe 3 years of the contract, but I’m not the GM of the team. A player like McCabe is hard to replace especially when you do not have a guarantee that you can replace him.

  4. 92-93 says:

    again, people are complaining about the wrong thing here…

    dont complain about the term or the amount …

    complain about the No-trade clause!

    i agree with you, the amount he got is not as much as the other UFA d-guys will get.

    just watch, the guys you mention are going to get big time deals and everyone is going to forget about the McCabe signing or they are certainly going to realize it would be a bargain compared to the kinda money these other guys are going to get.

    also, i am not to sure those people will be complaining about McCabe and Kaberle and taking up 10 million of the Leafs’ cap space when McCabe and Kaberle are 1-2 in D-scoring and in the top-10 in virtually every PP department.

    its the No-trade clause that makes this deal a horrific one.

  5. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    I can totally see the leafs going after a 5 million dollar winger atleast like a samsonov or something and see the leafs use guys like newbury and englehardt on their third and fourth lines. We need to leave some space to give some of these kids on the Marlies the opportunity to play, especially on the backend with players like colaiacovo, white, harrison, bell and pilar.

  6. 92-93 says:

    McKee aint playing tonight .. totally sucks for the Sabres.

    i hope the leafs get this guy and they CAN afford him.

    but i’d be surprised if the Sabres win this one, but who knows, teams who feel the panic like the Sabres are feeling now heading into a game 7 are very tough to beat.

    actually, now that i think about it, i think the Sabres will win this game.

  7. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    I thought Sundin’s contract at 6.3 million was high, now he only makes $600,000 more than McCabe! As Nelson would say “Ha Ha”.

  8. 92-93 says:

    well, i think it would make more sense for the leafs to after Langdenbrunner or Carter, who won’t cost the leafs 4 or 5 milloin.

    also, Williams, Ondrus, and Pohl will be used ahead of the guys you mentioned – even on the third and fourth lines.

    but yeah, there MUST be 4 or 5 spots (including 2 or 3 on D) that should be kept open for the Marlie prospects.

  9. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    “When a team is at least a couple years from contending, then you just don’t sign guys like McCabe for that kind of coin.”

    Do you really think Edmonton thought they would be in a stanley cup final the first year after they acquired Pronger (6+mil) and Peca (4mil)? You sign good players to make your team good, regardless of the contract size. Sure Pronger is good now, does that make Niedermayer dog crap because he was ousted from the playoffs? What if McCabe is hoisting a cup next season or in the next 3 years? If you watch Pronger you see him get blown by faster wingers as much as McCabe, its all about timing. There is no “perfect” defenseman.

  10. lukeleim says:

    as crazy as this sounds i kind of support this deal.. I think he’ll improve defensively the more he matures and it gives us two top defenders for the next five years. overpaid yes, but mccabe is only slightly overrated; this deal will garentee some spots for rookie defenseman considering JFJ wont have a lot of money to work with.

  11. 92-93 says:

    you cant even the criticism of the leafs correct.

    its like everything that comes out of your mouth is incorrect …

    its also always very predictable. you will never have a positive viewpoint on any aspect of the leafs. i, will have and have had a positive perspective on the habs in the past – even when they missed the playoffs.

    YOU have no credibility as a result.

    if you are going to critique the deal – critique the no-trade clause, because the amoutn McCabe got is precisely what he would have got on the market … and just watch what the other UFA D-guys will get, it will make McCabe’s signing look like a deal, especially when he finishes first in the top-5 of defensive scoring .

    sure he will be at Even, but i’d take a D-guy who can put up 50-70 pts, make teams pay on the PP, and plays 28 minutes a game at Even.

  12. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    agreed. was just mentioning guys like newbury and englehardt because they looked pretty impressive as part of the marlie team.

  13. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    Maurice will make a man out of him. lol

    I think Maurice could od wonders to help make McCabe much more consistant.

  14. samcal17 says:

    All the people saying we should have signed Redden or Charra instead obviously stop watching hockey after the first 82 games. These guys are fantastic for the regular season but how is there playoff record. McCabe is a warrior in the playoffs when they get there and thats when it counts.

  15. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    Don’t pay this guy any attention, hes just bone/meat head that likes to jerk chains for what ever reason. I wonder if he is this unproductive in real life just as he is on this site. Shameful.

  16. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    My opinion is the Sabres will rally around this sudden depletion of d-men and scratch out the win. McKee will be ready for the stanley cup final. Sabres win tonight 4-3.

    All I have to say to Carolina is keep an eye on Kotalik, he’s been awfully quiet.

  17. 92-93 says:

    one thing is for sure:

    Tomas Kaberle’s 4.25 million-a-year IS a bargain compared to this signing.

    this guy finished one point behind McCabe, is better in his own end (simply in terms of moving the puck forward), and has more talent, AND is 4 years younger and heading into his prime.

    but try telling that to all those people back in February-March when Kaberle was signed. the only bad part of that deal wasn’t the amount or the term, but the no-trade clause because it gave McCabe the leverage to ask for a no-movement clause in this contract.

  18. 92-93 says:

    yeah, i know his reputation.

    he’s actually pretty weak … all you have to do is tell him off a couple of times with facts and he goes away (at least he gets the message, others on HTR dont, and keep dragging it out).

  19. 92-93 says:

    Spector’s take:

    “Yes, this is a “crazy contract” for McCabe, but really, what choice did Ferguson have? There’s no guarantee he could’ve landed a better defenceman in the UFA market and trying to acquire one via trade would hurt the club’s depth elsewhere. Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

    McCabe loves playing in Toronto and has improved with each season he’s been there. He has no problem with the pressure of playing there and with the NHL’s new rules opening up the offensive game, especially powerplays, McCabe should earn his money offensively.

    No, he’s not among the very best defencemen as his defensive game needs work, but there’s little reason to suspect he won’t continue playing as well as he has, and perhaps under new head coach Paul Maurice his defensive game might improve.

    Besides, as Ken Campbell noted, this deal will still give the Leafs plenty of cap space to fill other spots on the roster, including landing a scoring winger for Sundin’s line and perhaps an experienced goaltender. Yes, his deal will have an impact upon other UFA d-men, but that’s not Ferguson’s concern. Oh, and like the Brad Richards contract, McCabe’s proves that a salary cap has no impact on what a team’s best players will earn. It’s what the team wants to pay.”

  20. Aetherial says:

    I just think that, for some stupid reason, the Leafs organization refuses to see the real way to build a team.

    I dunno, maybe this will work out for them, but in a cap world, I can see this contract KILLING them. It happens. It happens in every sport with a cap… as a Raptors fan, I know all about it.

    There was a big rebound effect when the NHL came back this year, and revenues and the cap went up.

    How bad is this going to look when the numbers die off again this year. If TV ratings in the US is any indication, the cap may go lower after 2007 than it was in 2005!

    Gawd, this is like a bad nightmare. I would have preferred to see them let him go even if they didn;t sign another big D-man … and spend the money on some SPEED on the forward lines.

    Buffalo has proven you don’t need Stud D-men. You need discipline, coaching and very fast, creative, forwards.

  21. Aetherial says:

    They were excellent on the Powerplay largely due ot McCabe.

    One of the big problems that the Leafs had though was an inability to adapt when other teams started playing a D-man high. They should have done better.

    I am hoping Maurice is a significant change for an organization that has played with a lot of heart but not much organization or discpline for a lot of years now.

    Who knows, maybe McCabe flourishes under Maurice?

  22. Aetherial says:

    Edmonton has a slim chance if Buffalo pulls off a miracle (missing 4 of top 5 D, it would take a miracle).

    They stand NO chance against Carolina. I will be surprised if they took 2 games from the Hurricanes.

    They might have a chance against a team as severely injured as Buffalo though.

  23. Aetherial says:

    Exactly. THAT is what could really hurt the Leafs.

    Then again, I have to think McCabe would consider waiving it for a good situation… like a contender needs another D. Some contenders out there, in fact all of them in the final 4, had cap room.

  24. Aetherial says:

    Dr. Dolittle for the Sabres has been Afinogenov… if HE finally finds the mark the Sabres might win.

    I am hesitant to count them out and I am definitely cheering for them, but missing 4 of their top 5 d-men… and their best PPG forward in the playoffs until his injury… DAMN!

    It will be a miracle if the Sabres pull this out against a very very good Carolina team..

    How good would Carolina be with Cole?

    How good would Buffalo be with Connelly, Tallinder, Numminen, McKee, Kalinin… Ask Philadelphia that question I guess.

  25. Aetherial says:

    I said when they signed Kaberle that it was a bargain considering the market…

  26. 92-93 says:

    perhaps youre right.

    i still dont see how this deal will kill the leafs’ chances from making solid, lesser-known signings that will improve this team and bring up the young guys.

    they only need to make 3 UFA signings – McKee, Carter/Langdenbrunner, Legace; and the rest of the roster is filled by young guys.

    why not make a trade for Gaborik as crazy as it sounds? why not bring up Suglobov, Williams and Pohl to play down the middle or on the wings and have Stajan Wellwood and Sundin at Centre?

    i still think the leafs can be young and fast and cheap … if anything, maybe this deal forces them to rely on the cheaper, younger players MORE.

    but i dont mind the core of the leafs right now: Sundin, McCabe, Kaberle.

    then the other veteran guys – most of whom are young and can contribute: Kilger, Tucker, Aubin, O’Neill.

    the rest are young guys who are proven – Poni, Wellwood, Stajan, Steen, etc.

    there’s still dead wood around – the remainder of Belfour’s contract, Domi, and Belak (who take up 2.5 million of cap space … if you throw in O’Neill, its 4 million).

    they’ve got the coaching, and the fast creative fowards are either going to have to be developed and brought up or traded for … which inevitably means that they are going to have to trade one of Pogge and Rask.

    hopefully, now JFJ turns his attention to resigning/qualifying his young RFAs (including Antropov who he’ll trade) and buying out Belfour’s contract on June 15th.

  27. Aetherial says:

    People who think signings like this skew the market are simply wrong.

    The beauty of the cap is that it holds all this stuff to a limit. If a teams makes bad decisions and has to live with them… too bad.

    I still think a lot of teams, like the Leafs for instance, have a lot to learn about building a team in the cap world.

  28. 92-93 says:


    you watch out Kaberle comes out of his zone versus McCabe … and you realize the bargain right there.

  29. 92-93 says:

    that would be the only scenario that would see him move.

    but even there, i dont seem him leaving toronto.

  30. Gretzkin says:

    I agree, it’s in the hands of Maurice now, and I am hoping he can make a difference as well.

    We all know McCabe’s weaknesses, I’m just hoping for the Leaf’s sake, they can fix his problems and turn him into the player people think he is. It’s possible, he has the talent to be great.

  31. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    “Crazy enough to go with Chara in a fight and hang in there while he gets tossed around like a rag doll?”. McCabe didn’t “hang in there” he was forced to when Chara grabbed McCabes jersey and wouldn’t let go. Dont think that McCabe didn’t want to drop to the ice and pray that it would end soon, Chara wouldn’t let him.

  32. 92-93 says:


    add Coliacovo (if he is healthy) and his 800K RFA resigning and subtract Belfour’s buyout down to 770K because it is spread over 2 years:

    so the leafs have all 23 of their roster spots signed for $42.2 million.

  33. 92-93 says:

    well, to qualify your last sentence a little –

    JFJ has a lot of learning to do in terms of the kinds of NHL-level signings he makes.

    but in terms of the kind of drafting and prospect-signings (including the recent Harrington, Foster, Earl signings and all the effort put into the farm system and drafting system) … he has been ahead of his predecessors.

    in that sense, we won’t see the fruits of JFJ’s labour in terms of an overall organizational perspective for another couple of years.

    at the same time, a deal like McCabe’s is going to counterbalance any positive views on JFJ’s drafting or farm system improvements.

  34. Gretzkin says:

    but from the McCabe standpoint, he didn’t have as much success on the PP as he did up until the Olympic break (or maybe his injury, dunno). He tabled off.

    I’m only really talking about McCabe if I need to clarify.

    Spreading it out and changing it up would, as the stats you have provided prove, meaning to me, heavy reliance on him at the point isn’t the reason they were 2nd overall. Part of though, not arguing that at all.

    Though, his prowess on the point isn’t really the topic. We all know he has an accurate slapper.

    It’s whether he can learn to be a better defenseman and tie it all into one fantastic package. That’s what will make or break the deal.

  35. 92-93 says:

    i think the first thing Maurice is going to do is he is going to reduce that duo’s ice time – putting more weight on their young D-guys and (if they sign a solid UFA D-guy), more weight on that UFA D-guy.

  36. Milohabs says:

    Apparently you are the moron who doesn’t understand english.

    I said that I (personally) don’t feel he is worth more than 3.5 million a year. I know some teams would pay him more, but I just don’t agree with it. In other words I don’t agree with the Leafs dumping 5.5 on his lap. Same way I don’t agree with Yashin making what he makes…

    You are an idiot dumbass. I can understand that you are uptight…your poor loser team hasn’t won anything in your lifetime.

  37. 92-93 says:

    your last sentence reveals what kind of person you are.

  38. LeafsLeafsLeafs says:

    Yeah, cuz you know what Bryan McCabe is thinking all the time right? How the hell would you even know anything about it? You don’t watch leaf games you prefer the euro sissy hockey that gets played in montreal.

  39. Toonces99 says:

    Point taken, but l was looking at it from a couple of different views which l should of stated, my fault, from an offensive standpoint maybe not, but the d-man that are available (besides Jovo) are responsible in their own zone and still put up some decent numbers. Because the buds don’t have a bonafide #1 starter this will be critical to their success. History state’s most guys that have great years before a contract renewal, normally don’t do well the following year.

  40. the_word says:

    isn’t You are an idiot dumbass a tad redundent? But you show a real grasp for writting, Ad hominem comments make what you have to say more compelling

  41. Toonces99 says:

    Guys l think your comments are warranted and have some hope of occuring, but l see a problem that no one has mentioned….goaltending….that’s a huge issue that l think must be resolved before you go after the 4-5 mill winger etc….thoughts or suggestions?

  42. the_word says:

    While their game is similar McCabe is a siginficantly better defense than Jovo. Jovo turns the puck over more (granted he plays in the West which is a little more up tempo) and he can’t match McCabes offensive ability.

  43. Gretzkin says:

    Good plan, I don’t think that the way McCabe plays now, he should be logging as much ice time as he does. Tons of PP still, but they should get a minute munching UFA that can handle the back end.

    Do you think the Leafs made a mistake giving up Jason Smith?

    Kabby can keep on plugging away as is, for all I’m concerned.

  44. Gretzkin says:

    hey look, we’re having a mature conversation…

  45. Toonces99 says:

    Maurice seems to have the capability to do that…l hope you’re right and that occur’s.

  46. 92-93 says:

    well yeah i think that would be the biggest concern.

    i think a lot of people are way off when they suggest the leafs can go after 4-5 UFAs and this McCabe deal – and the remaining cap space – makes it quite clear.

    i think the leafs could get at most 3 UFAs for about 3 million each (in order of importance):

    1. a goaltender (Manny Legace is my suggestion but others suggest trading for a goalie – problem is, who are the Leafs trading away?).

    2. a lesser-known, effective UFA d-guy (Jay McKee is a must-sign for the Leafs – hopefully Buffalo doesn’t resign the guy).

    3. a solid 2nd-line-type winger who is cheaper and can play on the first line (Carter, Langdenbrunner). others suggest the Leafs trade for a guy like Gaborik – but again, who are you trading to get this guy and would Minny be willing to trade him?

  47. 92-93 says:

    of course – from the moment they gave up Smith i said they made a mistake.

    but that is a long, long time ago. they made a mistake even when they let a guy like Dempsey go.

  48. 92-93 says:

    i know, i am scared too.

  49. Toonces99 says:

    Let hope so….because if he doesn’t 1 things for sure, it will solidify JFJ’s firing.

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