Mclaren has to go!

It is no secret that Kyle Mclaren is on the trading block. However, it seems Mike O’connell is asking too much in return and therefore no team is willing to swap a player in return for the injury plagged defensemen. Here is my humble unbiased opinion on a few deals which the Bruins should explore. Let me know what you think!First of all, even as a Bruins fan I have to admit that a Mclaren for Niinimaa deal would be a complete steal for Boston. Mclaren has never put up the numbers Niinimaa does and it is quite unlikely he ever will. But my question is why does Boston management see the need to acquire a defensemen for Mclaren? O’Donnell, Sweeney, Gill…the three defensive minded veterans…and Boynton, Berard and Girard…three offensively gifted and good skating defensemen. Then why not get a forward to play on the top two lines?

I’ll tell you why. If Thornton, Samsonov and Murray are the first line, they lack a winger for the second line…Stumpell plays with Mcinnis and Zamuner…or Lapointe…that is week offensively. But by admitting this, O’connell has to live with the fact that Guerin was his to loose and they let him go without any serious attempts of re-signing him.

So here are a few possible avenues the Bruins could look into.

1- Mclaren to NYI for Isbister

(although Isbister is still a young prospect, he has yet to develop into the offensive threat he was suppose to be…however, by moving Glen Murray to the second unit along side Stumpell, Isbister might break out and produce with Thornton and Sammy.

This deal would also help the Isles who desperately need someone to take ice time away from Aucoin, Hamrlik and Jonsson. The Bruins could maybe also throw in a 3rd round pick just to compensate the fact that Mclaren is still a question mark because of his health.

2- Mclaren, Stumpell and a 2nd rounder to Pittsburgh for Kovalev.

Even if the Bruins get more talent in this deal, it would make sense for both sides. There is no reason Boston could not efford Kovalev since they would have gained money from the loss of Dafoe, Guerin, Mclaren and Stumpell…that is enough to sign Kovalev. He would obviously play alongside Joe and Sergei and if he stays healthy…probably win the scoring title. To compensate for the loss of Stumpy, the B’s could move team MVP Brian Rolston to the second unit with Murray and have Mcinnis center the third line. For the penguins, well, their small market budget would surely better accomodate Stumpy and Mclaren than Kovalev. Stumpell would fill their need at center and possibly play with Straka. For Pittsburgh fans, I’m sorry to say but this is a much better deal than what you got for Jagr who is arguably the best player in the league.

There it is folks give me your input…the only other team I can see the B’s packaging Mac and Stumpy to would be St-Louis…they need help because of Pronger’s injury and are pretty thin at the center position after Doug Weight. Stumpell and Demitra must be pals since their both Slovaks…but what would they have to offer in return? Stillman and a pick…or Stillman and a young D like Salvador? anyway tell me what you think the B”s should be looking for.


22 Responses to Mclaren has to go!

  1. -Swizz- says:

    i dont know toooo much about the kovie situation….

    but i dont think they plan on trading him….

    guinsfan4life prolly knows more bout it …

  2. Leaf_Expert says:

    Y don’t all u “CRITICS” bash this guy for these embarassing comments….

  3. LEON says:

    Yes, McLaren does have to go and eventually he will. I don’t think the Bruins really need much in terms of offense. With the rise of Huml and Hilbert perhaps we need to look no further for a 2nd or 3rd line winger. Besides it’s about time these guys are given the opportunity to live up to their potential. If you think the B’s are already good enough on D, which very well may be the case, as Sean Brown may be able to step in and replace the physical void that would be felt with the absense of McLaren, then why not wait until the best deal is made for a player the Bruins prove to really need?

  4. titans says:

    Hey Boston fans! Any of you gonna be at the Bruins-Thrashers game Oct. 26??

    McClaren isn’t worth piss!

  5. mebeda says:

    I think Mike O’Connell’s smart to not make a trade solely for the purpose of making a trade. The Bruins would be a better team with McLaren, but his absence isn’t leaving a gaping hole on their blueline. A lot of people think Shaone Morrison is ready to play in the NHL this year, but was sent to Providence only because he didn’t have to clear waivers and Kultanen would have had to. Having either Brown, Kultanen or Morrison as the 7th defenseman isn’t all that bad of a position to be in.

    As far as forwards go, I think their first line will be Thornton, Murray and Samsonov. The second line will be Stumpel, McInnis/LaPointe and Huml. The third line will be Rolston, Axelsson and McInnis/LaPointe. The fourth line will be Stock, Zamuner and Grosek/Brown/Knuble. If the second line doesn’t produce, in addition to flip-flopping McInnis and LaPointe, they could move Rolston up to the wing and call up Hilbert from Providence as the third line center. Or, you could trade McLaren for a second line wing or as part of a package including a third line center.

    However, if I were a gambler, I’ld bet big bucks that they end up trading him for a goalie. I would also bet that they end up making a great trade. I wouldn’t be shocked if they ended up with a Giguere or a Cloutier, even if they had to package McLaren with someone else. Then, either next year or the following, their new goalie would become a free agent and the Bruins would be forced to either sign him for much more than they would have had to pay Dafoe or let him walk as a free agent. Knowing the Bruins, they’ll let him go. So in 2 years, they wont have McLaren, they wont have Dafoe and they’ll have gotten nothing for either of them. And such is life as a Bruins fan…

  6. acebailey says:

    OK,

    Here is my take on Mclarren. Harry Sinden said the other day that Kyle is as he put it an “asset”. And he indicated that he would wait to find out how to use this asset to its highest return, or somthing to that effect, it was in the Boston Globe the other day.

    Translation: he wants to see how bad the goaltending, among other things, really is this year. Goaltending is the main problem, and in case you didn’t hear, Grahame may have a shoulder problem already, Tim Thomas was sent to Providence, and they immediatly called him back up, and Boston will be bringing 3 goalies on their opening roadtrip.

    The fact that Grier went to the Caps clearly tells me that talks are over between Boston and Edmonton. Boston knowing their history would have wanted Grier, and would have given more for him than most other teams.

    It depends on how things go in goal, but I see Grahame going back to Providence and Kyle being packaged with either Raycroft or Thomas (probably Thomas if Oconnell gets his way), and going somewhere for a reliable #1 goaltender, and other players/considerations of coarse.

    It is a shame Dafoe is watching TV and playing Playstation. I would like to see the Bs pick up Barrasso, keep Grahame in Boston and trade Shields, but that will never happen.

    What do you guys think? What top goalies could the Bs pick up in this situation?

  7. gzus2380 says:

    how about Jonas Hoglund for Kyle McLaren? This would help both teams as boston needs some offense(dont know how much hoglund can help lol but he could be good on the boston 2nd or 3rd line) and T.O needs help on defense desperately and McLaren could be a good addition. THe only thing is that toronto and boston are in the same division and they will probably not trade. What do you think?

  8. YingYan says:

    Not for Kovy. The Pens will be able to pay him next season when they will resume the contract negociation which was at a stall but also not too distant in terms of overall positions. This deal also doesn’t make sense to the Pens and Bruins who are seeking another Dman. Pens would be better off giving Pushor a tough Dman, Kraft and their #1 draft pick for ex.

  9. acebailey says:

    BWT, Thornton was named Bruins Captain by Robbie Ftorek today. They must feel confident they will get him to sign this summer when he becomes an RFA.

  10. lovas84 says:

    Leafs fan? no way

  11. lovas84 says:

    Mclaren to the Avs

    Blake-Foote

    Morris-Mclaren

    De Vries- Skoula

    sounds good to me

    just wishful avs fan thinking though i don’t want any more of our good guys gone

  12. shuckryan says:

    I’m really sorry to have to break this to Gaby but I have no idea why he thinks that the Oilers were willing to give up Niinimaa in a deal involving McLaren. I have heard on several radio stations here in Edmonton as well as one in Boston (which i listen to on the internet) that the Bruins and Oilers were close to reaching a deal along the lines of:

    McLaren

    for

    Marchant, Reasoner/Swanson, Pisa/Haakana

    This was a day before the Grier trade however, and now Lowe is saying that he’s done dealing for a while (which we all know is BS seeing as how Marchant and Moreau are both making over 1 million this year and the Oilers are just itching to bring up Rita.)

    When the Oilers released their final 23-man roster yesterday i counted 15 forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies. (Yes i know that is 1 too many players). Here’s the link for there “FINAL” rosters. http://www.edmontonoilers.com/team/players/index.htm

    This still leaves Rita on the farm team, as well as 1 more player that needs to be dropped to reach 23. So the Oilers actually need to deal 2 forwards for the optimum amount of NHL-ready forwards to be on the pro team. So the McLaren for Marchant, Reasoner/Swanson, Pisa/Haakana deal makes sense from the Oilers standpoint.

    Sorry for boring all of you Bruins fans with info on the Oilers but I thought this might shed some light on what the Bruins might be getting in return for McLaren.

  13. shuckryan says:

    I’m really sorry to have to break this to Gaby but I have no idea why he thinks that the Oilers were willing to give up Niinimaa in a deal involving McLaren. I have heard on several radio stations here in Edmonton as well as one in Boston (which i listen to on the internet) that the Bruins and Oilers were close to reaching a deal along the lines of:

    McLaren

    for

    Marchant, Reasoner/Swanson, Pisa/Haakana

    This was a day before the Grier trade however, and now Lowe is saying that he’s done dealing for a while (which we all know is BS seeing as how Marchant and Moreau are both making over 1 million this year and the Oilers are just itching to bring up Rita.)

    When the Oilers released their final 23-man roster yesterday i counted 15 forwards, 7 defensemen, and 2 goalies. (Yes i know that is 1 too many players). Here’s the link for there “FINAL” rosters. http://www.edmontonoilers.com/team/players/index.htm

    This still leaves Rita on the farm team, as well as 1 more player that needs to be dropped to reach 23. So the Oilers actually need to deal 2 forwards for the optimum amount of NHL-ready forwards to be on the pro team. So the McLaren for Marchant, Reasoner/Swanson, Pisa/Haakana deal makes sense from the Oilers standpoint.

    Sorry for boring all of you Bruins fans with info on the Oilers but I thought this might shed some light on what the Bruins might be getting in return for McLaren.

  14. nixter says:

    Its time Harry and Mike stopped trading period since they guys a lot of the time dont know what they are doing.I am glad that they are waiting out the situation to make the right deal. A lot of people call Mclaren worn out , fragile, and damaged goods. THis is totally incorrect as now , through experience Kyle is learning how to play in this league without getting injured, from our recent conversations. Yes I talk to Kyle once in a while.

    So , on Kyle’s new team he plans on still playing his rough and tumble knock your ass all over the place stle but admits he will stay healthy as he’s learned how to brace himself and prepare for hits in the NHL.

    Mike Should keep Kyle close in Boston until a reasonabale offer is made for him. I dont think he will make the same mistakes he’s made in the past getting screwed in almost every trade, hence Edmonton and Kevin Lowe. Here are a couple possibilities.

    1. Reasoner and Marchant

    2. Vrabata and a 1st round pick

    3. Khabibulin – plus giving up a swap of 2nd rounders and Michael Grosek

    4. 3 prospects outta St. Luois

    I am not a Bruins Fan but have watched developments over the years by this organization. It seems to me that the B’s get “STUNG” everytime they make a trade so its about time they make a decent trade and keep Mclaren on the sidelines until its done.

  15. guinsfan4life says:

    Actually talks have shut down. The two sides haven’t talked in a bout a week or so. The deadline for talking was set by Craig Patrick and is tonight.

    It doesn’t look like they will get a deal done by then, and might have to explore trading him or risk going to arbitration.

  16. guinsfan4life says:

    YOu know, normally I would slam the idea of trading kovie for the players you suggest.

    HOever with the moves that the Penguins have made in the past year and a half I can’t nearly suggest they wouldn’t make that deal. I mean look, we traded the best offensive force in the game, at that time, for three prospects, all of who are in the minors this season and don’t appear to be in the penguins immeadiate plans.

    I don’t know what is in the water coming into Craig Patrick’s office has in it, but he has made alot of questionable calls lately–allowing the capitals to claim Berry off of waivers, (when you have tons of veteran defenseman that would have not been claimed), trading Kaspar for a third line winger and then allowing Berry to go…AHHH Berry was the ONLY d-man we had that actually moved people from infront of the net. HELL, put Janne Laukkanen on waivers–he has done NOTHING for he penguins since coming here in a trade from Ottawa. He also makes 1.5 mil a season which would be nice to get rid of.

    …SO to end my rambling, yeah let’s just trade Kovie anywhere for anything, cause anybody’s guess is as good as mine as to what they’d move him for.

  17. guinsfan4life says:

    THere is no way we can even suggest what the Penguins will do with Kovie. It is totally up in the air. THey might trade him for a bag of pucks and sticks and somehow convice us all that the pucks and sticks were worth it.

  18. LEON says:

    Do you not have any creativity? You already posted this comment reguarding McLaren for Hoglund for: “A different look at trade rumours”. The worst part about it is that it’s the same nonsense word for word. Get it through your thick skull ape-man, it’s a dumb trade speculation. The fact that you re-posted the same pathetic comment just discredits any other comment you have in the future.

  19. mebeda says:

    Are you going to be at the Bruins-Thrashers game or will you be at the Boar’s Nest hanging out with Cooter and Uncle Jesse?

  20. acebailey says:

    I find it hard to believe that the Bolts would give him up, but I would not mind seeing that as a Bs fan. But doesn’t he make like a Bazillion dollars a year? I don’t know if the Bs would do that.

    Who would the Lightning have in net? Would they want Grahame or Shields? Khabibulin (is that really how you spell his name?) is one of the elite guys in the league, but this trade doesn’t make much sense to me.

    They can have Grosek.

    What about Grahame and Mclarren to San Jose for the unsigned players there Stuart and Nabokov. Stuart is a good young up and coming D man, and Nabokov is awesome. What is keeping those guys from signing anyway?

    It could happen.

  21. Gaby says:

    Although Marchant is a personal favorite of mine, I can’t see the Bruins trading for him. He is a centermen with explosive speed and a good defensive game…a.k.a Brian Rolston. Unless Rolston would move to the wing where he is less effective??? And to clarify the Niinimaa issue…what I meant was that I had read that rumor on various sites…I do not believe it’s a logical trade from an Oilers standpoint. Sorry about the confusion!

  22. bubbakazoo says:

    Hey man, you just look like a whiney ***** moaning because noone seems to think that this guy is as stupid as someone else I know. Get a life and stop dreaming of the day your useless ***** Leafs stop sucking.

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