Mega Deal in the Works between Pittsburgh and Tampa?

TBO.com is reporting the possibility of a huge trade between the Penguins and the Lightning that would see Martin St. Louis moved to Pittsburgh.

The article reports the possibility of a mega deal that would see St. Louis go the Penguins for a package deal of Ryan Whitney and possibly Jordan Staal. Of particular interest is the fact that St. Louis will earn 4 million next year which is reported to be a friendly cap hit which may make it easier to have a long term player along side Sidney Crosby.

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73 Responses to Mega Deal in the Works between Pittsburgh and Tampa?

  1. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    I never realized you thought so poorly of Malkin. And so yeah he played with an elite guy in Malkin, and still showed all he can do is score. 30+ goals is nice but if all you can grab is 13 assists to go with it you aren't helping your team as much as possible. I don't know if he doesn't have the ability to set a player up or if he doesn't want to.. but if you are playing with Malkin and you are doing your best, you can probably get at least 30 or 35 assists.

  2. reinjosh says:

    im pretty sure that the he only played with malkin in the first season that malkin played and even then his time was limited with him seeing as malkin started playing pretty well
    so no i dont think poorly of malkin but staal has barely played with him and been a third liner

  3. nordiques100 says:

    problem is, the 30 teams that need forwards, 25 of them cant afford massive salary hits.

    so they will lean on rentals: antropov, guerin, tkachuk, gaborik and so forth.

    these players will be in higher demand than st louis.

    st louis is an amazing player, and thus too, a massive package of assets will be needed.

    much less though would be required to say land a 20 goal man like an antropov.

    if you're a team that needs to be frugal, that may be the best u can do.

    if you're a really good team, like say boston, you may just want that depth, not needing of a star like st louis.

  4. blaze says:

    yeah I would hate setting NHL records while picking up a captaincy, Art Ross, Hart. and Lester B. Pearson, and trip to the Cup finals before I could legally buy a beer after home games.

  5. blaze says:

    lol like anyone wants Rozsival

  6. Kyleton says:

    Every player in the league benefits from having good players surround them.  No one is saying he is the best scorer in the league. But he is a great scorer and if you put him with a playmaker he will score.  That is his purpose.  Of course he would not net as many goals if he was on a team without a playmaker.

  7. bobdole says:

    you my friend are an idiot. Martin st.louis is the straw that stirs the drink in tb. And I qutoe he is better then Vinny.

  8. Bure96 says:

    Florida gets RAPED.

  9. Rickler says:

    Alright.
    I've had enough… Martin St. Louis OVERRATED?
    Give me a break, if anything (considering his cap hit of course) he's underrated.
    The guy shows up to the rink night in and night out. – He kills penalties, plays the PP and doesn't get enough credit for Vinny's success in the NHL.
    Staal has potential to be a dangerous player. He has size, hockey smarts and almost every tool you need to be a marquee player. BUT…
    The idea is, Staal is a natural center playing behind arguably the top two centers in the game today. Is St Louis for Staal a fair deal? – I dont think so. But it's a gamble and GMs are usually willing to gamble on potential.
    I know this is a bit of rant, but St.Louis benefits the Pens a lot more than a Staal does for the next few years.
    On to a different subject… Why don't the Pens consider trading Malkin/Crosby? Can you imagine the return they'd get on either of those players? – Keep Staal at 4 mil for the second line and surround Staal/Crosby or Malkin with top line players… again just a thought.
    Just a boozy post eh?!
    let me know what you guys think,
    Rick

  10. hockey_lover says:

    And thats exactly the point I was trying to make in another post.

    Jeff Carter, Ryan Getzlaf, Eric Staal … put them all on the 3rd line, in a defensive role, with two guys who are also NOT point producers (but role players) and none of them would get high point totals either.

    Mind you, while I agree with that Staal will definitely be one of the best two way players in the game, I think 80pts per season is a bit high for him. I figure he will set in about 65pts a season but still pay a lot of attention to his defensive game.

  11. hockey_lover says:

    Whats so amazing about that post is that, a few weeks ago, there was a thread about how much more valuable Ovechkin was than Crosby. The logic was that assists arent that important and that goals are the #1 thing. A goal scorer can doesnt need a playmaker but a playmaker needs a scorer.
     
    But NOW, Staal needs assists to be considered a good player.

    I guess Thornton doesnt really rate high on your list cause he is only on pace for 20 goals?

    Cant have it both ways.

  12. canuck67 says:

    More people might call you an idiot with your remark

  13. quick_stick says:

    That's funny…and the reason I rarely come to this site.  Just goes to show how little some of the posters actually understand the game of hockey.

  14. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    The difference between guys like Kovy and Ovie, and Jordan Staal is that they do still put up enough assists. Kovalchuk is good for 35-40, Ovechkin has put up at least 46 assists every season and is on pace to do it again. With Thornton, he's probably the best at what he does and he can put up 20 goals. In my mind a guy who scores 20-25 goals and a bunch of assists like Thornton is more valuable to a team because he's getting the other players scoring alot and putting up solid goal totals himself. As for the Ovechkin vs. Crosby debate. It's not about who has more goals and who has more assists. If you're a 50-60 goal scorer and put up 46 assists on top of that it is good all around team play. What puts AO over Crosby is how dynamic he is, how every play can make a fan hold their breath.

  15. ranger_fan says:

    My post was a joke of course, but Rozsival is a little under rated. He isn't a defensive liability and still has a great shot. Further he has a 5 million cap hit while being paid 4.3 million which could be attractive for teams looking to spend the floor. Sadly Rozsival has been the Rangers best defenseman.

  16. LEAFSLEAFSLEAFS1967 says:

    If that's meant for me I understand the game of hockey pretty well. I was never part of the discussion about how Ovechkin is more valuable than Crosby because he can score more. The thing about Ovechkin that makes him the top player in the world is the fact that I can't think of one time where I've seen him make a play and not been excited. Plus he can bring in assists. Without the fact that Ovechkin puts up over 40 assists every year, I wouldn't think of him quite as highly as I do now. The best players in the game can put up at least solid numbers in assists AND goals. Not that goals are important but with a guy like Staal he's no 60 goal scorer, he has 30 goal scorer abilities, but with that he should probably be able to put up at least 30-35 assists. When he can do that I'll probably think just as highly as everyone else does, but he has to learn to be a little more of a team guy in that way.

  17. bobdole says:

    For the salary st.louis makes you will be hard pressed to find a better deal. Lets be honest brad richards or st.louis or vinny. I dont think the skill differnce between vinny and marty is huge. St.louis is a great player. Jordan staal has no impressed me. Look at joe pavelski he plays behind alot of talented players but still chips in offensively. Staal for st.louis could have upside for tampa but you could also get another 5 million dollar ryan malone. What a retarded price to pay for malone he is a bumb. Staal and a draft pick for marty would make sense.

  18. bobdole says:

    st.louis makes 5 million and vinny 7plus. Marty is just as good as vinny and i dont care who says differnt. st.louis is faster and a better pk killer. For 2 million less marty is the far better deal then vinny

  19. Radio says:

    Whatever the outcome, Sid will always be a douche.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqR17KrLKw&fmt=6

  20. hockey_lover says:

    And those Sens are ALLLLLLLL class ..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_Uqao_QXU

  21. Radio says:

    I fail to see what a Daniel Alfredsson clip has to do with Crosby being a douche.

    The article had nothing to do with the Ottawa Senators. 

  22. hockey_lover says:

    Those in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.

    *patting you on the head*

  23. Radio says:

    I do not agree with your premise. Throwing stones from such a place generally causes the most destruction, and such an outcome is preferable.

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