Mike Johnson

With enough Leaf articles to make Sens fans puke, it’s time for Ottawa fans to speak up.
Ok, that intro has little to do with what I’m about to write. But it is true.

The St Louis Blues have put Mike Johnson on waivers. If they put him on re-entry waivers, any team can pick him up and are only responsible for half his salary.

I think this is a golden opportunity to add some depth. I was saying last summer how Johnson would fit perfectly on our checking lines.

This is a guy who scored 14 goals as a third line player on a play-off-missing Montreal Canadians team who couldn’t score 5-on-5 to save their lives. He also managed 20 goals with the bottom-dweller Phoenix Coyotes.

PLUS, he only makes .750 a year. And the Sens would only have to pay half that, meaning we’d only have to pay him .375. Plus we’re already a month into the season, so we’d actually pay less than that.

We’d still have 2.5 million left in cap for a rainy day.

And we’d get another good checking forward who can add to the score-sheet.

Of course, once McAmmond comes back, we’d have to dump a roster player.
I think it’s too late to send Foligno back (he’s played 10 games). So my pick would be Eaves. Maybe we could package him up with some picks for Martin Gelinas, who though injured right now could be an asset during the play-offs.

Just A Thought.


33 Responses to Mike Johnson

  1. RealisticLeaf says:

    How bout that Leaf game last night?

    Toskala looked good again.

    WHAT…..ANOTHER  Sens article? This is becomin the Sens message board!!!!!!LOL

    Sorry Sens fans if there is more Leaf fans then Sens fans on here. Might explain all the Leafs articles.

  2. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    I just realized that Nick Foligno would go to Binghamton, and not to junior.

    So we could send him to Binghamton for some experience, and keep Eaves, for now anyway.

    I've always liked Eaves, he is young and still has potential. Perhaps he was rushed into too much too soon, and can't live up to his first year. So, I would keep him for now, but if the opportunity presents itself to trade him at the deadline (like for Gary Roberts or Martin Gelinas, a veteran who can score when it matters most), then by all means do it. We may not be able to re-sign him if we keep the important pieces like Spezza, Meszaros, Vermette and Kelly. Plus we have some other promising young forwards in the system (Foligno, Nikulin, Zubov, and Bass is having a good start)

  3. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    Or maybe it's because we have nothing to complain about. 🙂

  4. broc says:

    A) Mike Johnson scored 11 goals with Montreal- not 14. His 20 goal season you're referring to- of which he has achieved once in the past 10+ years- occurred in 2002-2003 season.

    B) MIKE JOHNSON IS NOT BETTER THAN PATRICK EAVES.

    Eaves is only 23 and hasn't his his prime yet. The best from Eaves is yet to come- Johnson ain't gonna get any better.

    Johnson is not a guy who will put the Sens over the top. In fact, nothing is wrong with the Sens at all right now. It would be stupid to make an unneccessary trade and screw with the team chemistry/momentum.

    C) YOUR TRADE SCENARIO OF TRADING EAVES + picks FOR GELINAS IS LUDICROUS.

    The Preds would do that deal in a heartbeat. Ottawa could have that deal immediately. But….

    That's a Cliff Fletcher "trade our good young guy for some over the hill slouch" Toronto Maple Leaf type trade. A promising 23 year old talented forward and draft picks for a guy who's probably going to retire after this season? Come on. Gelinas may have had a good playoff run with the Flames BEFORE THE LOCKOUT, but that doesn't mean much now. Look at Fernando Pisani.

  5. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    I don't really want to give up Eaves. But he might not fit in financially if we re-sign Spezza, Meszaros, Vermette and Kelly.

    I thought Johnson had 14, but 11 is only 3 removed. And 20 goals is 20 goals regardless. He hasn't played on a team as good as the Sens since that 20 goal year.

    For the price, he would still be a good depth pick-up. If we do decide to send Foligno down to the AHL (When I wrote this post, I for some reason thought that he was still eligible for junior, and so we couldn't send him down after his 9th game), Johnson could fill in on the 3rd of 4th lines.

  6. habsrock99 says:

    I'm a Habs fan and I saw Mike Johnson all year last year and he was a very good depth forward. He may not score a lot but when he does, it's usually a big goal, either a Game Winner or a Momentum shifter. He'd add a lot of valued depth to an already deep Sens team. As for Foligno going down, not going to happen because he'd have to clear waivers, which he wouldn't.

  7. nordiques100 says:

    why would foligno need to clear waivers? he's a rookie….came straight from junior.

  8. habsrock99 says:

    His Entry Level Contract kicked in because he's player 10 games. The Sens had up to 10 games to send him down without him having to clear waivers. Just like the Leafs have 10 games before Tlusty has to clear waivers. Just like the Oilers had 10 games before Gagner and Cogliano had to clear waivers. Just like the Habs have 10 starts before Price has to clear waivers. If a rookie has played 10+ games, his team needs to put him on waivers for him to go down.

  9. RealisticLeaf says:

    When your good you are good…Very true words!! The Sens are truly the team to beat.

    So what do you think you would do if the roles were reversed….you would be makin posts calling for someones head. Just like the Leaf fans are doing now. So take pitty on angry Leaf fans like me.LOL

    Sens prove that good drafting goes a long way. The Sens are a great team right now.

  10. rojoke says:

    No they don't.  No player on an entry-level contract is subject to waivers.

    At minimum, a player has to play at least 60 games, no matter what position he plays, before he has to go through waivers to be demoted to the AHL.  Depending upom when they signed, the range goes from 60 to 160 games for skaters, and 60 to 80 games for goalies.  The 10-game clause only means a year of play in terms of his contract and his free agency status.

  11. rojoke says:

    The one guy I desperately wanted Gainey to re-sign.  He and Bonk were huge killing penalties early last season, and if you look at the team's penalty killing this year, with their goaltending being better out of the gate, the PK is nowhere near what it was this time last season.  I'd almost consider picking him up now, but the team is trying to get their younger prospects into the line-up as much and for as long as possible, and they aren't exactly stinking up the joint at the moment either.

  12. senators101 says:

    But why did Pittsburgh have a problem with Fleury in his first year then? They were undecided about sending him down and they had 9 games or whatever it is to decide.  He started off well, thats why they kept him.  But why would it matter if he could be sent down regardless w/o anyone picking him up?

  13. leafy says:

    Believe it or not, RealisticLeaf, there are still people out there who can't tell the difference between Toskala and Raycroft.  Real cement-heads as I like to call them.

    These are probably the same dimwits who think Bush is a good president.

  14. leafy says:

    I suppose Johnson is a good guy to have strictly for depth purposes.

    He's solid defensively and is excellent on the PK.

    I've always liked his speed and he has the tools to be a threat offensively.  Why he doesn't score more often is a mystery.

    The main disadvantage is that he's past his prime.  Again, he can be useful for depth, but nothing more.

  15. habsrock99 says:

    Then explain why Latendresse, Jordan Staal, Sam Gagner, Andrew Cogliano, Mikail Grabovski, Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Rob Schremp and any other rookie cannot be sent down to the AHL or their Junior team without clearing waivers. All the mentioned players are under Entry Level contracts and if their respective teams wish to send them down, they must go through waivers. That's why it was such a big deal last year for Staal and Latendresse playing 9 games. Because after that, they would have to clear waivers to be sent down.

  16. senators101 says:

    I too was questioning him, but I think he just might be right.  I heard somewhere today that the only reason they keep them up is because they'd have to pay their whole contract anyways.  If they get sent down before, they don't.

  17. dcz28 says:

    The 10 game thing i think is only for players being returned to juniors. Quincey for the Wings played 7 regular season games and 13 playoff games last season and didn't have to clear waivers to be sent down this year while a guy like Meech who has only played 4 NHL games has to clear waivers because he has played 3 years in the AHL.

  18. rojoke says:

    They had one of two choices, send him back to junior or keep him, because he was 19 the year he started with Pittsburgh.  They had a pretty piss poor team that year, so they had to decide if he'd be better served playing and learning in Pittsburgh or playing a meaningless year development-wise in Victoriaville.  They picked Pittsburgh.  The NHL and CHL have an agreement that says any player who doesn't make his NHL club would be assigned to their junior team if they had junior eligibility remaining.  The lockout year he played in Wilkes-Barre because he turned 20.

  19. rojoke says:

    Waivers only applies to demotion to the minors, not junior.  As I said before, the 10-game threshold is all about their length of service regarding their contract and free agency.

    I'm getting this straight from the CBA.

    Age          Years of Service          Games Played
     18                    5                             160
     19                    4                             160
     20                    3                             160
     21                    3                               80
     22                    3                               70
     23                    3                               60
     24                    2                               60
    >24                   1

    So, in the case of Latendresse, he signed at 18, so he's waiver-exempt for this season and next, until he plays his 160th game.

  20. cartino says:

    Too many Leaf articles and not enough sens articles eh…. Sens fans could complain about their team after every game then:

    How about after every loss we do the following:
    -Complain about our horrible GM and demand he gets fired, Brian Murray has been doing a horrible job and has to go, he's drafted nothing but plugs and overpaid way too many unproven goalies and shakey defencemen.
    -We could rant about how bad a coach John Paddock is and needs to go along with an entire front office cleanup
    -We could complain about Redden, Phillips, A-train, Mezaros are horrible and way over paid
    -We could start trade rumours like Brian McGratton and a 2nd rounder going to Pittsburg for Sidney Crosby+Ryan Whitney.

    Their aren't really any Sens articles because they're doing really well and not as many of us around, alot of articles on this site are driven by either trade rumours or people unsatisfied with their team's performance and complaining about them. The Leafs are off/on and fans are not to impressed with their defence, GM, and goaltending hence a lot of articles are written about them… plus face it everyone their are alot more Leaf fans around to post on this site.

  21. Asquaredx2 says:

    But with kelly, Vermette, Fisher, Donovan, McAmmond and Alfredsson, does Ottawa need any more penalty killing forwards? Guys like Mike Johnson are great to have, but the Sens really need secondary scoring much more than another defensive forward-type guy. That said, acquiring him or PJ Axelsson would be great.

  22. leafy says:

    I agree. Axelsson gives you a scoring dimension that you don't get with Johnson, and he comes at a bargain price of around $1.8M, cheap for a useful player like him.  However, Boston would want something tangible in return, either a good young prospect or draft picks.

  23. Asquaredx2 says:

    Which 2nd rdp are we talking here, ours or the one from Chicago? If you're talking Chicago's, they'd have to at least throw in Malkin. If they want protection for their young guns (and McGrattan is one of the best at providing that), then they better be prepared to give something up in return. 😉

  24. Asquaredx2 says:

    If he came over with a pick, I'd send Josh Hennessy back. I don't really see him having a use in this organization, other than as a reminder that we got totally ripped off for Martin Havlat. Still, he's a good prospect, and since Boston seems to want everything remotely to do with Ottawa (Chara, Chiarelli, York, Bochenski, Schaefer, etc), I tihnk they'd take him.
    But I don't know if that's enough. I'd still rather sign Forsberg.

  25. senators101 says:

    Axelson wouldn't put this team over the top. Forsberg would.  We need 2 big lines.  Our third and 4th line would be fine if alfy and foppa were on the 2nd.  We just need cheap wingers for those guys (power forwards preferred – sign anson carter for one?)

  26. Asquaredx2 says:

    I'd stay away from Carter. Foligno has the ability to be a powerforward. I still like the idea of Axelsson, but of course Foppa's first. Now if we could get both…

  27. senators101 says:

    I don't think Foligno will be aable to do the job on the first or 2nd line this year.  Axelsson is not very big.  Maybe not carter, but we need that type of player cuz Foligno isn't good enough to play the top lines.

  28. senators101 says:

    I think Nikita Alexeev is a great option.  6'5'', 225.  Not signed anywhere right now so he'd come really cheap.  Didn't play with much talent when he played for Tampa last year, and he still 23 points.  He'd made a lot of room for spezza and heatley to do their thang.

    His salary last year was 450K.. wont take much cap space and we dont lose any prospects. 

  29. habsrock99 says:

    Ok, if that is the case and Latendresse is sent down or Foligno is sent down and if neither one has to clear waivers, I will admit I'm wrong. But I'm going by what I've heard on every sports station since the lock-out ended and this is the 3rd year that this "rookie" rule has been in effect and for 3 years, I've heard the same thing that once an Entry Level Contract kicks in after the player plays 9 or 10 games, he must clear waivers before being sent down to either Junior or the AHL/ECHL. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Could you possibly give me the site where you found the CBA? Because all I get is a bunch of CBA updates on my google search.

  30. Senatorsfan78 says:

    I agree with you I would like to see Bryan Murray to make a trade for Gary Roberts but not coming the Senators we had our chance last season.

  31. JuicemaN says:

    Oh please, Sens fans are just as bad if not worse than Leaf and Habs fans. Last year when Gerber and Alfredson were playing like ass for the first 25 games you guys were crying bloddy murder.

    I work in an office that is half leaf fans and half sens and habs fans….even the sens fans here admit that Ottawa fans are likely the worst and if there where more than the 20,000 sens fans you would be a lot more noticable and own the title of the NHL's worst whiners.

    But I don't blame you….the Sens are the only team you have to pay attention to; so of course all your anger and frustration just goes to one team.

  32. I-BE-LEAF says:

    It's an age thing, folks.  Certain rookies (depending on age) are unable to be sent to either the AHL or ECHL unless put on waivers first.  The only other option is to be sent back to juniors.

    http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/archive/cba/article13.html

    Enjoy the read!

  33. MogilnyFan1990 says:

    Us Leafs fans don't force other fans to read our articles..  so don't complain! just dont read them..  not hard..    tools.

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