Mogilny, Malakhov Back?

According to Sportsnet, New Jersey Devils GM Lou Lamoriello said that both Alexander Mogilny and Vladimir Malakhov were back in the plans for next season. Apparently Lamoriello convinced Malakhov to come back from retirement and he fully expects Mogilny to be in training camp fighting for a position.


40 Responses to Mogilny, Malakhov Back?

  1. bpanther83 says:

    He must not be expecting to sign Gionta. If they are in the plans, that means they are not ones he plans on trading. So he is either trading the rights to Gionta, or he is going to trade goatnadz. Wow this just keeps getting more and more intresting.

  2. wingerxxx says:

    From what I read a while back, Malakhov didn’t really want to retire, he was just kind of taking a “break” or something. It will be interesting to see what Lamoriello does, because he’s got a real mess on his hands, in terms of the cap. Jersey did just fine without either of these two guys last year.

  3. Flyer_Dman says:

    This has nothing to do with Gionta. When Lou sent Mogilny down and retired Malakhov, he only saved cap space for that year. Their salaries count against the cap this year according to what TSN says on how the new CBA works. Therefore, he mine as well get them back and playing because he is going to have to pay for it anyway.

  4. bpanther83 says:

    IF these guys are in the plan for next year, then thats more salary he isn’t plannin on dumping. Thats what I am saying, if you would of read it all you would of noticed that.

  5. wizard36 says:

    I’m not sure why he would want to bother with either of these guys, since the team did well enough wihout them. Correct me if I’m wrong, but couldn’t he just send these two, plus McGillis, to the minors and not have to worry about their contracts, and then not have to trade any of the core players.

  6. bpanther83 says:

    Nope, it would all still count against the cap. If anything he should trade Mogilny + White or Rafalski. That the only way I see them Keeping Gionta and Gomez.

    I mean since they did well without Mogilny anyway. They just can’t expect much in return for Mogilny.

  7. 2buxaslice says:

    No. Since they were signed to NHL contracts he would have to pay their salaries even if he sent them to the minors. These guys are not rookies so they don’t get two way contracts. A two way contract is when a player gets paid a certain amount while in the NHL and a smaller amount while in the minors. These guys have one way contracts so they get the same amount no matter where they play.

    Sorry if that’s confusing, I don’t have a lot of time to type.

  8. DJTOKid says:

    Question, Why would any other team want to help out a team, in there competitive market, get out of the trouble they are in? I mean some of the players we are talking about here and there contracts nobodys going to want them.

    I think lue should:

    A) let Gionta sign with another team and collect the first round draft picks in return for his restricted free agent.

    B)Trade rafalski for low salary player or draft picks. Hes the only player out of the intangables of the team that has any real want to any other team.

    this would get the cap down and they still could have a decent team. Maybe struggle for the playoffs but still compete, they will always compete with Broduer in the net.

  9. NCREDiBLE says:

    Moginly was doing awesome !! he was leading the team b4 lou dumped him in the minors .. he should have traded hiim off during that period.. I wish he would have stayed in toronto. but can’t any team pick him up for 1.75 Mil now ?

    I’d like to see him play for Edmonton.. for some kind of trade with dvorak.

  10. bpanther83 says:

    Is that what he is making? I thought it was closer to 3mil

  11. bpanther83 says:

    No one is going to give up first round picks for an unsigned player. And I dont think he has proven enough in one season (playing with Elias and Gomez) to warrent first round picks. Maybe a decent player and a 3rd rounder, but thats it, especially cause he is unsigned.

  12. ObjectiveImpartiaL says:

    if they don’t sogn Gointa he becomes an UFA and no draft picks get exchanged, I think

  13. neilios says:

    Ok here would be a good trade for the Devils and Canucks this way the Devils clear about 4 million off there cap and they get something decent in return.

    To Canucks-Gomez5mill,Matvichuk1.3mill,Wiemer950,000

    To Devils-Morrison3.2mill,and some picks

    Saves the Devils about 4 mill and the Canucks need some more avarage players to fill up there roster and Matvichuk and Wiemer would do that.

  14. neilios says:

    Dvorak is a free agent,so you cant trade him for no1.

  15. papichulo71 says:

    Actually only like $3M since they would need to fill 2 more roster spots at a $450,000 minimum

  16. papichulo71 says:

    I like the idea of NJ trading Malakhov or Mogilny bundled with Brylin to Washington for a mid-prospect. This helps Washington reach the cap floor.

  17. Milohabs says:

    Correct me if I’M wrong, but according to TSN website, the Devils are currently at (aprox) $49,930,000 (with Gomez). If they then sign Gionta, Hale & Martin at LEAST 5 million for the 3 of them. This still only brings their roster to 22 players (20 if Malakhov & Mogilny DON’T come back this year). This means they would have a salary of $53,930,000 (aprox).

    Lou isn’t just a “bit” over the cap, he’s $10,000,000 over the cap. I don’t think trading Gomez is even the answer. I think Jersey needs to consider going into a re-building mode ASAP. I would trade Madden, Rafalski, Matvichuk, Gionta & Brylin. I would accept only young talents & draft picks. He could get quite a lot of prospects & picks for these guys.

    This would lower the salary by aprox $11,000,000.

    They would still be tight, but next year Malakhov & mogilny’s contracts will be done and they’ll now be comfortably below the cap with lots of prospects and the core of Brodeur, Elias, Gomez, Langenbrunner, Martin & Parise will still be in tact.

    My 2 cents.

    PS> Either way Lou is SCREWED!! I always thought he was smarter than this.

  18. NjDEVSFN says:

    STOP QUOTING TSN.ca’s salaries!

    they are wrong as Elias will count for $6M against the cap and John Madden for $2.9M

    havent you figured out that the AVERAGE salary counts, not the true year one?

    if the Devils have to count Mogilny and Malakhov’s contracts against the cap, why NOT have them play?

    i’d rather them get cleared off the cap, but since that’s not happening, oh well

    the Devils arent even at $45M with Gomez signed to the arbitrators decision.

  19. DJTOKid says:

    I’m pretty sure restricted free agents signed by another team come with draft pick compensation. The number of picks based on the players salary.

  20. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    YEAH, Jersey is totally screwed

  21. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    you are wrong, but its not your fault. TSN.ca is wrong.

  22. iamyee says:

    Hey, I totally forget right now, what is the punishment if you are in violation of the salary cap and when does it apply?, at the beginning of the season?

  23. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    TOTALLY NOT WORTH IT for Jersey, and it trades good players instead of old ones.

  24. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    i don’t know about punisment, but between the day the season opens and the day someone hoists the cup the team salary must be 44 million

  25. wheresthesoda says:

    yea, they started to turn it around when both of them left

  26. Kamakaze says:

    Well, obviously they would have to pay them. But does that necessarily mean it counts against the cap?

  27. John_Connor says:

    bpanther is right – this has everything to do with Gionta. Not directly, but if Lou wants M&M back then I’m afraid NJ is already touching the cap. Unless Lou pulls a rabbit out of his arse, the return of M&M means that Gionta has to go.

  28. Braidan says:

    I think when people look at TSN.ca salary commitments they neglect this little tidbit:

    “This chart is a list of players signed to NHL contracts for the 2006-2007 season by the team. It does not include players signed to 2-way deals (contracts with AHL implications). The salary listed in the chart is the actual amount the player will be paid this season (source: NHLPA.com). Salary cap figures are usually slightly different depending on the length and structure of the contract, details which are usually not disclosed, and cannot therefore not be reported accurately. Though exact salary cap figures are not available on a player-by-player basis, this chart should give you a good idea of the team’s cap situation.”

    Makes a huge difference.

  29. Braidan says:

    Enough bickering about the payroll figures:

    With the Devils’ payroll around $39 million, they could exceed the cap if Gomez hits a home run. Restricted free agents Brian Gionta, David Hale and Paul Martin, as well as a backup goalie still to be signed. Source:Fourth period.com

    With the Devils already sitting at $39 Million and not having signed Brian Gionta, if Gomez is awarded that amount, New Jersey will have no place to put the centerman without somehow shedding other salary committments. It is starting to look more and more like Gomez will be playing elsewhere next season, with quite a few teams sure to be interested in his services. We shall see. Source: New York Post

    The $5 million awarded to Gomez means that the Devils are at the limit of the $44 million cap. New Jersey still must sign Brian Gionta, Paul Martin and David Hale. GM Lou Lamoriello has said he will do everything possible to keep Gomez in the fold, which means that he will have to make a few trades in order to make that possible. Another possibility would be trading Gomez. The Coyotes may be a willing trade partner for Gomez’ services. Source: Newark Star-Ledger

    So can we agree that if Gomez signs at $5 mill, that the Devils are in a jam and stop splitting hairs as to how many millions they are over?

    They will be over and still have spots to fill, this will be fun to watch and I can’t wait to see how Lou gets out of this one.

  30. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Can’t they start the season over the cap if they trade guys throughout the season? Isn’t it that a team can only have spent $44 million in salary come the end of the year? So the Devils could start out at $55 million, as long as by the end of the season they’ve only payed out $44 million to players?

    Although I assume there probably is some kind of rule that stops a team from loading up over the cap to start a season, followed by a massive salary dumping.

  31. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Can’t they start the season over the cap if they trade guys throughout the season? Isn’t it that a team can only have spent $44 million in salary come the end of the year? So the Devils could start out at $55 million, as long as by the end of the season they’ve only payed out $44 million to players?

    Although I assume there probably is some kind of rule that stops a team from loading up over the cap to start a season, followed by a massive salary dumping.

  32. Garniss says:

    leafs are screwed

  33. Garniss says:

    isn’t John madden an nfl commentator for monday night football?

  34. le_sean says:

    Yes he is, but they are talking about the John Madden that can step on NHL ice without cracking it.

  35. ObjectiveImpartiaL says:

    I know that, but if an 28 year old with as many years NHL experiance as he does old does, does not revieve an offer does he not have the right to turn from a RFA to an UFA once in his career?

  36. SensShark says:

    HA HA Nice!

    Lou is smart and will find a way….I think I see something coming from left field…….

  37. MACH9ER says:

    sure new jersey had a good last season, they made the playoffs, but im pretty sure they won’t be raising the cup banner for the 05-06 season. as a devils fan i’d love to see Mogilny back he is still Alexander the Great(the real one) he may not be the same player he was in 92-93, but he still put out decent numbers last season, scoring 25pts. in 34 games. lets say he was givin the chance to play 68 games and kept his points per game consistent he ends up top 40 in points among rw’s. it kills me to see people come on here mocking him because the people who do, probably never watch devils games, whereas i do and ive seen ALMO give Brodeur the night off and win games single handedly.

    w/e happens ill always remeber that night i was at a friends house(bruins fan) watching the game on TSN seeing Thornton lose a face-off (with less than a minute left) and the puck being drawn right to Mogilny, then seeing him blast right past Raycroft to win the game. the next day i was watching tv and there was no player on the bruin roster by that name.

  38. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    I’m talking about the offseason, Jersey will not be able to keep the team together, like the leafs were. every comment I make about anything you reply by bashing the Leafs.

  39. kamullia says:

    The Devils should be in the mid-high $40s (Millions) range thus far, and that is without counting Gionta whom I foresee staying with New Jersey.

    That will translate into Lamoriello having to shed $6-$7M minimum from the cap after signing Gionta. And looking at the signed players thus far I see Madden, Malakhov, Mogilny, Rafalski and White as the only candidate players that being traded would make the necessary change in the cap without overhauling the entire roster. This means that at least two of those in that short list will be gone by October. Who will be the two or three to go?

    If Lamoriello wants to maximize his return, and be assured of a “bidding” war between teams for a trade, the likely candidates are Rafalski and Madden to go. Yes, they have high salaries, but their services are certainly coveted by many teams. Whereas White for example (and probably Mogilny with his diminished output) is not as coveted, there will be shorter list of teams looking for him, and knowing this, the teams will try to low-ball the return to Lamoriello.

    There is one more thing to keep in mind. Everyone expects Malakhov to play for New Jersey, but consider this: If he retires, he counts against the cap. If he plays for New Jersey, he counts against the cap. But if he is traded he is off the New Jersey’s books entirely. Therefore there is a slight chance he was asked to un-retire as a favor, so that they can try and get him off the books.

    This is a certainly nothing more than an educated guess, but I think if Lou can swing it, Madden, White, and Mogilny are all going to be traded.

  40. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    if its b4 arbitration its with draft pick compensation (with original teams right to match) if its after an abitrators decision is denied, then he’s a UFA

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