NHL Hockey Trade Rumors – Dec 19, 2011

Are the Leafs looking at a Jan blockbuster?

Desperation move

Anger pours over for Kings

Where do the Canadiens go from here?

Are the Leafs looking at a Jan blockbuster?

Kessel back in #NHL scoring lead. But #Leafs wilting. Expect Burke to make significant deal start of Jan. Time to ID Leaf ”tradeables.”


Desperation move

The Tomas Kaberle trade absolutely ‘smacks of desperation’ based on the reality that Kaberle’s game at the time of trade barely kept him in the lineup and the Hurricanes were offering a second round draft pick to any team willing to take his contract (two years after this season ar $4.25M). The fact Carolina acquired a serviceable veteran in Jaroslav Spacek, whose contract expires on July 1 and were able to hold on to the additional pick they were dangling as bait, scores a clear financial win for the Canes. Yes, Gauthier is vulnerable because wasting your owner’s money seldom earns GMs contract extensions. If the Habs miss the playoffs or bow out early, I’m certain there will be a full organizational review.


Anger pours over for Kings

The Kings are all talked out after rehashing their 8-2 loss to the Detroit Red Wings moments after the game, while the stench was fresh, and again before they practiced Sunday.

They hope venting their frustrations will free them to have a better performance Monday against the Toronto Maple Leafs in interim Coach John Stevens’ finale before Darryl Sutter takes the reins.

Center Anze Kopitar said alternate captain Matt Greene led the outpouring of anger Saturday.

“He stepped up and said a couple words. ‘We can’t do this anymore,’ ” Kopitar said. “He started talking and everybody listened. Everybody cares and understands that this is not the way to go.”

Kopitar said rage was the dominant emotion.

“I think everybody felt ashamed, too. At least I did,” he said.

Stevens chose a different theme, saying the Kings should be able to match the Red Wings’ diligence if they can’t match Detroit’s pure skills.

“Even though they’re a talented team they don’t step on the ice and just try to out-skill you. They’re pretty determined to outwork you and I think that’s something we have to learn from,” Stevens said Sunday. “I thought the focus today in practice was excellent. I thought the guys worked hard, picked up the tempo, got to the net, did the things that we asked them to do….

“I really look at this road trip as an opportunity to go 2-2 under some pretty tough cir*****stances and I thought the guys were pretty professional about their approach.”


Where do the Canadiens go from here?

That’s the question after general manager Pierre Gauthier fired head coach Jacques Martin Saturday morning and replaced him with assistant coach Randy Cunneyworth.

The announcement, which came two weeks after team owner Geoff Molson said Martin and Gauthier would not be fired during the season, has been greeted with joy by many fans who felt Martin was the source of the Canadiens’ dismal performance. But anyone expecting radical changes following Martin’s departure might be disappointed.

For starters, there is unlikely to be a change in the team’s basic philosophy. This is not a team loaded with offensive superstars, and the key to success is a solid defensive effort from goaltender Carey Price on out.

In his first post-game press conference, Cunneyworth acknowledged that a more aggressive offence isn’t a bad thing when a team’s trailing. But the new coach is a guy whose playing career was built on hard work, and that’s what he will expect from his players.

If fans are waiting for a blockbuster trade, they’re advised not to hold their breath. When Gauthier finetuned this year’s version of the Canadiens, he was determined to hold on to the core that Bob Gainey assembled when he blew this team up before the 2009-10 season. A third of the way through this season, it’s not so much a case of sticking with that core as being stuck with it.


42 Responses to NHL Hockey Trade Rumors – Dec 19, 2011

  1. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    Lupul – Staal – Kessel

    Nash – Connolly – Parise
    Mac – Grabo – Kule
    Army – Steckel – Brown
    Phaneuf – Gunnarsson
    Schenn – JML
    Franson – Gardiner
  2. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    probable *

  3. dumbassdoorman says:

    Ok, not sound like an ass here but what exactly did we give up to get these two stars?

  4. mapleleafsfan says:

    3 stars, Staal, nash and parise.. and it appears we traded dupuis and bozak.. Fair IMO

  5. mojo19 says:

    Maybe we threw in Rosehill for good measure.

  6. rcichard03 says:

    Dont forget Orr, he was probably the key player in the Parise trade.

  7. Steven_Leafs says:

    It was a four way deal.

    To Toronto:

    CBJ 1st
    NJ 1st
    CAR 1st

    To New Jersey:

    CBJ 7th

    To Columbus:

    CAR 7th

    To Carolina:

    NJ 7th

    had to have the 7ths swapped or it isn't really a 4 way deal. 😛

  8. LeafsNation4Ever says:

    Komisarek and Finger went away as well.

  9. senators_choke says:

    That last minute giveaway by Liles also shows why I like him.

    Even though he made a mistake (and he doesn't make many), he RECOVERED!!!

    The ability to recovery. A crucial skill for defencemen. That's only one reason why Liles is my favorite Leaf defenceman – sorry Phaneuf fans – and probably the most under-rated Leaf in my opinion.

  10. senators_choke says:

    I dislike shootouts, even when we win. When we lose, I loathe them.

  11. senators_choke says:

    Everybody seems to knock Rosehill…and they should.

  12. frankinboltonleafs says:

    In all seriousness….we need to cut a deal for Staal. I don't know what Rutherford would want from us….I'm guessing not Kadri given what Eakins said about his fitness level today, (and Rutherfords experience with Kaberle). That suits me as I'd keep Kadri….but we need to get a deal done for Staal. I don't see another option, and if there is one… someone please tell me. Lupul and Kessel can only play solo run-and-gun so long.

  13. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    lol, I woke up my roommate from laughter reading these replies

  14. blaze says:

    Was always a big fan of the Liles trade. I've watched him lots against Vancouver, very under-rated is right.  His veteran savvy is perfect a fit in the Leafs young D. Hoping for a 2-3 year extension at the same cap.

  15. dumbassdoorman says:

    I also woke my "roommate" up last, however she said not tonight….lol

  16. TheLeafNation91 says:

    I agree!

    I said he was better than Kaberle, but apparently I was wrong on that by everyone else.

    Liles is very solid offensively and defensively. And unlike Kaberle, if he makes a huge brain fart, it wont go into the back of the net.

  17. mojo19 says:

    Pretty sure everyone agreed that Liles is better than Kaberle. Stop trying to make it sound like its you against the world all the time. You need to lose that syndrome. If I were a betting man I'd say you are about 5'5" maybe 5'7" tops because you have what's known as "short man syndrome" Get over it, its an ugly quality.

  18. mojo19 says:

    I've never warmed up to the shootout, I think its terrible.

  19. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Good try, I'm 6 feet, want proof?…And check the archives from a few weeks back.

    And it has been me vs. all of you…But once again, I prove I'm right.

  20. reinjosh says:

    Yeah we have been against you occasionally. 

    Not on that though. I think most people agreed with you. I was one one of the lone people against that trade and even then I agreed that Liles was better at that point then Kaberle. 

    To be fair I overrated Kabby though in his last year or two as a Leaf. You had me there. 

  21. reinjosh says:

    Anyone starting to agree with me that Ryan Miller is overrated?

  22. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Thank you, I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong as well…As do some.

    I try to believe I speak from an unbiased train of thought when it comes to the Leafs, that is why I'm very critical. Even in most of their wins this year I believe players should play a certain way to win a championship, and I call out certain Leaf players on this site because of that. I'm very vocal on who I would keep…And who I would deal ig possibe.

    I just hate it when this site constantly criticizes me for what I think is true because I do know a lot…And I'm right because of it.

  23. TheLeafNation91 says:

    He reminds me of the American Luongo.

  24. NonLeafFansAreGay says:

    hahahh happens to the best of us

  25. MystifoLeafs says:

    I'll admit that I have been against you a lot lately but I just like to argue. Always have and always will. 

    On a side note I never said anything about Liles or Kaberle. I liked Kaberle as a leaf and I am liking Liles as a leaf. I think Kaberle had a much softer pass than Liles but Liles actually can shoot on the PP. But to be honest I looked for at Jake Gardiner off setting the whole Kaberle deal now. But that is just me because I am not sure how much J.M.Liles will demand on July 1st.
    Wiz got 5 million and they are both comparable…
  26. MystifoLeafs says:

    Prefer they remove the shootout and start 3 on 3. That would be interesting. Like to see if a team would ice 2 centers and a 2 way D or Center winger and D.

  27. reinjosh says:

    Except Luongo has strung together more than one season of high end performances, albeit on the Canucks.

  28. reinjosh says:

    Hahaha totally just made me laugh out loud. I don't think she would appreciate you telling us that 😛

  29. reinjosh says:

    What do people think of the Sutter hiring? 

    Personally, I actually think it might be one of, if not the, best coaching hire of the year. Sutter was actually a pretty damn good coach and he knew how to get guys to play to their strengths. The Kings actually fit nicely into Sutter's type of play. 
    Specifically this should be a boon for guys like Brown, Richards, Stoll etc. I don't think it will affect Kopitar either (Iggy had some of his most successful seasons with Sutter as his coach) and Doughty should improve under Sutter (he's going to start have him play more active). 
    Thumbs up from me
  30. dumbassdoorman says:

    whats she gonna do cut me off? lol…..and it isn't like you guys are ratting me out,,,,,errrr?????????

  31. senators_choke says:

    Yeah, he's gonna demand a lot of cash, but I'd keep him for sure.

    I have to admit, when we got him, I had absolutely no idea Liles was this good.

  32. senators_choke says:

    When he coached Chicago way back when, Darryl Sutter proved he was a good coach. I've always liked him and wouldn't mind if the Leafs had hired him.

  33. senators_choke says:

    I liked for the format they had from 1984 to 2000, which was 5 minutes of OT, and ZERO points if you lose in OT. And of course, no shootout.

    WHen they introduced the "extra point" for an OT loss in 2000-2001, it took away form the drama of losing an OT game.  What's the point of sports without drama?

    It's almost like they made the sport for kindergarten children, ie, give them a point so that they go home happy and don't hurt their self-esteem.

  34. senators_choke says:

    He was better 2 or 3 years ago.

  35. reinjosh says:

    For that one season around the lockout. Before that he was just as good as he is now. Good but not top 5 great.

  36. reinjosh says:

    Interesting. I wasn't following hockey back then (I was 2 when he started lol) but I remember his during his Flames days. He wasn't a bad coach at all. It was when he took over GM duties that he went downhill. He had some good moves (Bourque, finding Huselias, Kipper) but the Bouwmeester signing and the Phaneuf trade began the end for him in that regards. So basically, good coach, not so much as a GM. 

  37. Boston_Bruins says:

    Haha I thought you'd be on top of this.

    I stand by that I think he's a top 5ish goalie (obviously not this year though) and that he's just having an off year. If he repeats this next year though, then I'll start really dropping him in the rankings.
  38. LeafsFTW17 says:

    So Justin Bieber was skating at the ACC today and was hanging out with the leafs.
    I don't know if you remember but when everyone put down 10 bold predictions in the summer I had Justin Bieber to sing the anthem at the ACC, I may be a genuis…

  39. LeafsFTW17 says:

    Would you re-sign him?
    The leafs already have 7 NHL ready D men but none quite like him. 
    Hypothetically speaking, if he wanted 5 mil. Komisarek would need to be traded. Which brings me to my next question.
    Will Komisarek be tradeable next year? It will be one less year on his contract.

  40. mojo19 says:

    I'm right with you on this one Leafy. I don't think theres anything wrong with ties in hockey.

  41. dumbassdoorman says:

    Bieber rocks….lol….***** that even my daughter hates him

  42. reinjosh says:

    Haha can't help it. 

    Fair points. Time will tell i suppose

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